A143 Subject: Re: Hp49+ New> 1.- whats the seri number to look for?Starting with 352 onwards> 3.-Is Hp sending the fixed ulator if you order from internet?Aparantly so. === Subject: Re: Hp 49 g+: vs TI89 and other issues... Please HELP!> Do you know of anyone who has been turned down? I read some where on> the site that they would not sign anytng containing objectionable> content. I wonder what that includes.Ts is covered under CONDITIONS OF SIGNING APPLICATIONS when you download TI Flash Studio (TIFS).I am not aware of a case where TI has refused to sign an app. === Subject: Re: HP 48GX vs 49G+> I rely cannot understand why people prefer the slow hp48gx to the> hp49g+ .> the hp48g cannot de with symbolic matrix and its so slow when> operating the equation writer wch is in my opinion the biggest> advantage of the hp ulator.> It does not simplify expressions fast and sometimes cannot integrate> expressions.> It's file manager is horrible.> Maybe the keyboard is better for deing with simple numbers but> everyone I tked to just dont use the eqw writer in the 48 because> its so slow they can go to the moon and back until they will insert> the expression. :Simbolic matrix, very fast eq writer, integrate, a good filer... *L*the points you tk about are running in my 48GX to Metakernel,Erable, g48 (fathers of 49) and years of my own programs, my own menu system, etc: that is because I prefer ts to the new 49G+As I said a few days ago, last summer I ran to buy a spare unit with When a new user ask me, I recomend the 49G+, but I won't buy it for me.I hope you can know understand our point of view. === Subject: Re: HP 48GX vs 49G+Totly agree. I need symbolic math, matrices, and integrs. I study civil engineering. I use Erable and Java to add more power to the 48GX. There areultra fast replacements for the EQW for the 48GX too. I'm only complainingabout the reliability of the 49G+. If HP made a with the power of the49G+ and the building quity of the 48GX I'd buy it without even thinking.In the meantime, I'll keep my HP48GX with my ramcard and my programs. I'meven tnking of adding another ramcard to instl metakernel. With lthose programs, Metakernel, Erable and g48 the HP48 is no longer the old48. === Subject: Re: HP 48GX vs 49G+As a student to structur engineering I am deing many times withvery large and long expressions - and it is the same not only instudies.These expressions will be very hard to ulate with the RPN. I love the RPN very much but for long expressions it is not very useful.You forget that in the eqw writer you dont need to put brackets. Bythe way - it is not the same for the hp48 - there you must put brackets in some cases so its eqw writer isnt perfect as the hp49g's.In my opinion The CAS in hp49g+ is very strong at least - strongenough for my needs and it is very important in my opinion that a will tnk mathematicly.As for surveying I so heard that people prefer the 48g.But someone who dont use the CAS, dont do symbolic, dont use the eqwwriter, why spend so much money even on the 48g ?? go and by cheap RPNulator and thats it. You dont need such a powerfull tool. Its like opening a nut with a KONGO driller...I must say that I use the hp49g+ to isolate variables from anequation. since the hp49g+ simplifies the expression wch has beenisolated - I save a lot of time deing with expressions.I tnk file manager is very important to orgenize your variables andfiles.I agree that it is not the most imprtant tng but in hp48 it is justTOO SLOW. just for view the files it takes so much time... the hp49g+is very useful : you can move, copy, files easily and create a newdirectory in a second.Yes - I love the color of the 48 too. I tnk its a beautiful .But I rely dont see what is the fight about : The guy wants to buy a .Lets ask m for s needs. what does he expect the to do ?Maybe the hp48g will be perfect for m ?Maybe he just need a CASIO and end of story ? === Subject: Re: HP 48GX vs 49G+> These expressions will be very hard to ulate with the RPN. [Laugng...] That is fascinating, to hear an HP advocate complainabout how large expressions are hard to ulate with the RPN. If aTI advocate would dare to make the exact same statement in ts group,s/he would have been taken apart...> I love> the RPN very much but for long expressions it is not very useful.If that is how you feel, I would strongly recommend you switch over toa TI ulator. You should be right at home with their gebraic-onlyinput, as Bvanesh said their eqw actuly handles units (in contrastto the new HPs), and the CAS is much more usable than theidiosyncratic mess on the HPs.> You forget that in the eqw writer you dont need to put brackets. By> the way - it is not the same for the hp48 - there you must put> brackets in some cases so its eqw writer isnt perfect as the hp49g's.As I said, I don't need an eqw, and I don't need brackets in RPN,either.As for how perfect the eqw is, yes, it is dead-slow on the 48, butat least it can de with units...> In my opinion The CAS in hp49g+ is very strong at least - strong> enough for my needs and it is very important in my opinion that a > will tnk mathematicly.Well, in my opinion, the only one who can tnk is the user,hopefully... Good luck hoping for some thought from your ulator.> As for surveying I so heard that people prefer the 48g.> But someone who dont use the CAS, dont do symbolic, dont use the eqw> writer, why spend so much money even on the 48g ?? go and by cheap RPN> ulator and thats it. You dont need such a powerfull tool. Its like> opening a nut with a KONGO driller...Would you like to tell us what cheap RPN ulator we should useinstead? Let me ask you more bluntly: Do you have any idea at l whatyou are tking about? There are lots and lots and lots of examplesthat are hard enough to require a powerful ulator, yet do notrequire any CA at l.> I must say that I use the hp49g+ to isolate variables from an> equation. since the hp49g+ simplifies the expression wch has been> isolated - I save a lot of time deing with expressions.Again, if you are into simplification, the TIs would suit you muchbetter. Try ts: type 2 3 / 2 / 3 *. What do you get? Well, it's2/3/2*3. Wow. Impressive. A few keypresses later your HP might tellyou that ts is 1. Had you used a TI for an equivent exercise,you would have gotten that result right away. === Subject: Re: HP 48GX vs 49G+Hopefully the EQW on the HP49G+ is as fast as the EQW and Hail on the68k. I had oasion to use a physic HP49G (not G+) once, and it tookforever to do anytng. I know and appreciate that the designers triedhard to make the HP EQW faster, but I tnk HP needed to finly dumpthe Saturn and use modern hardware to make it usable. === Subject: Looks Like the 33s is finly out??Since the 48 is baned from the PE exam i had to get anotherulator. samson cables still has the 33s as a pre-order so i wentwith good old wmart...Any word on the keyboard on ts one?? === Subject: Re: Looks Like the 33s is finly out??> Any word on the keyboard on ts one??It seems to be good quity stuff except that the screen seem to be easilyscratchable. It is however recessed so it is just a er of being careful === Subject: Combo field in ^IfMainCan anybody give me an example of a combo field rated by ^IfMain? I am trying to make it work, but it doesn't. Here's a simple example of how I tried to use it:%%HP: T(1)A(R)F(.);!NO CODE!RPL::* Label definitions: Pitch: 1 41* Field definitions:* Pitch field 'DROPFSE (Msg handler) 26 40 30 8 (Pos. & size) BINT2 (Fld type: combo) { 0 } (Types: res) BINT4 (Dp, may use 2) (Help text) Fixed font's Characters per inch { %7 %9 %11 } (Options, res as defined previously) BINT4 (ChsDp,ignored) %11 DUP (Initi & reset, res again)* Form parameters 1 1 (Lbls & flds) ' DROPFSE (Title) Input Form Example FPTR2 ^IfMain;@I believe the options param may be wrong, but I cannot find more documentation. === Subject: Slow down the scrolling speedI've got a huge problem: on l 49g programs where there's scrollingmy 49g+ scrolls them amazingly fast ( ts happens for example ineqlib )I wonder if somebody would have a solution to tsI read that in the 49g there was a variable KEYTIME wch controlledthe time of detecting keypresses. I don't see it on my 49g+However, in ROM 1.23, it is still there :Try KEYTIME->, natively, it yields 0.Then, try 3000 ->KEYTIME, and o quick repeated key ts will onlygive one action, so the command is still there. === Subject: conecting a 49g+ wth a seri (49g...)I wonder if you could somehow adapt the usb port connector of the + toanother seri , Ts would be incredibly usefulSomeone has said here that he had sueeded in using a IrDA -> RS232 adaptor. So connecting the 49g+ to the 49G is possible.===Subject: Just a game for HP49G+Telescope is just a new game for hp49G+, made in a few hours so don't expect a zelda.you can either download it at www.hp-sources.comor try the pc version at http://www.telescope-game.com === Subject: Re: Just a game for HP49G+But not enough level, I have finished the 13 level in less than 5 minutes.No problem on my HP49G+ === Subject: Questions about old 49g+I got my new 49g+, SN# CN4021XXXX, from HP customer service (very goodand quick, by the way) after my origin one, SN# CN3330XXXX, crappedout wle trying to instl ROM 1.23. They said they might cl me tosend origin in order to autopsy it. Well, it has been a weekand they haven't cled. Anyway, the old one won't reset oranytng...notng! I want to try to fix it. Can anybody tell me orpoint me to the correct posting that explains how to open it and findout what's wrong? === Subject: Howto assign angle symbol to unsfted keyI have what is probably a very simple question, but I have been researcng it for hours.I spend a lot of time entering complex numbers in using polarnotation (magnitude, 6 every time I need the angle symbol.Can anybody give me a quick and easy way to get ts symbol assignedto an unsfted key or a menu option? === Subject: Re:Non programmable RPN > I may be wrong, but I tnk the only way you are going to find an RPN> non-programable ulator from HP is to go back to the old LED versions.> These would be the HP 35 and HP 45. l s after these that are RPN will> have programablility as an intric part of their design.No, there were a couple of non-programmable woodstocks: HP-21, HP-27.Once the Voyager series came out they were l programmable.http://www.smith-house.org/books/list.html === Subject: Re: Emulating the 49G+: Lies my 49g+ told me...> 1. 80B 34 is SETOFFD> Well, l I can tell you is that ts certainty is more than likely to > be incorrect...Well, forgive me, I made a swapping mistake :SETOFFD is $80B $43.But that was close.And, to justify myself, I haven't had my 49g+ for a long time.> 2. 80B 03 is CONFIGD> Here are some solid ones > I don't tnk so.The latter IS correct, you can test it with compiling and ASM->-ing it. === Subject: Re: Urania on HP 49G+ Yes I do. Runs fast and without a problem. Needs to be the 49-version (askGeorg Zotti for a tri), not the one (48) available on hp. === Subject: Re: Hp49g+ Advise> The only significant keyboard problem that has been rly reported is> the failure of some keys to register properly in earlier units. though> ts was not a problem for everyone (I have never had it and I bought my> 49G+ fairly early), it appears to be fixable by using what is being referred> to on ts newsgroup as the wiggle fix. so, it is now being reported> that recent releases of the ulator have an improved keyboard without the> problems. Ts is covered in more detail in other threads.Beside the wiggle fix problem there was another problem with thekeyreactions wch could not be solved by wiggle fix. The newer keyboard seem to be cured.> The battery life problem seems to have been fixed with release of upgraded> operating systems - particularly versions 1.22 and 1.23. Again, ts is a> problem I have never experienced. I have been using my ulator for a> couple of hours per day since I got it last October. I have never had to> change batteries and have upgraded my operating system ice.The batterie life time seem to be drasticly shortened comparedto HP 49G. Mine survieved one month on the hp 49g+ comparedto 9 month with a HP 49G.==Subject: Re: HP49G+ : Build Libraires / Using HP Pasc ?> Since my first HP48, I am using HPPasc (present release 2.1), but i do not> know how to develop libraries with ts sofare. My program were previously> running on HP49, now they are running on HP49+ with no major problem.> Does anybody know how to develop librairies with HPPasc, if it is possible.> If not, wch tool can i use ?You should tell ts to the origin author of HPPasc, who worked along time to make the compiler working on 48.As far as I know, he didn't release a 49 version of the compiler, sothere is probably no way to program in HPPasc for hp49, exceptcompiling for 48 and convert manuly the program you get into a 49version. === Subject: Re: HP49G+ : Build Libraires / Using HP Pasc ?I certify that DJludo has posted a version compatible with the HP49G (youselect the HP48 or HP49 compilation), I test it recently on HP49G+ and itworks fine but due to the new processor, playing paan becomes impossible.Yoann Desir a .8ecrit dans le message de> Since my first HP48, I am using HPPasc (present release 2.1), but i donot> know how to develop libraries with ts sofare. My program werepreviously> running on HP49, now they are running on HP49+ with no major problem.> Does anybody know how to develop librairies with HPPasc, if it is possible.> If not, wch tool can i use ?> You should tell ts to the origin author of HPPasc, who worked a> long time to make the compiler working on 48.> As far as I know, he didn't release a 49 version of the compiler, so> there is probably no way to program in HPPasc for hp49, except> compiling for 48 and convert manuly the program you get into a 49> version. === Subject: Re: HP49G+ : Build Libraires / Using HP Pasc ? > Since my first HP48, I am using HPPasc (present release 2.1), but i do not> know how to develop libraries with ts sofare. My program were previously> running on HP49, now they are running on HP49+ with no major problem.> Does anybody know how to develop librairies with HPPasc, if it is possible.> If not, wch tool can i use ?I have to admit I even didn't know about HPPasc before your message ints NG. I tnk it was (is?) a big project for the author...So I can't help you with ts platform.B I can suggest you to trye Debug4x (wch I actuly use)http://www.hp.org/hp49/pc/programming/debug4x.zipOf course you can build so libraries from there. === Subject: Re: HP49G+ : Build Libraires / Using HP Pasc ? HP-Pasc is available in http://www.hppasc.fr.st/. can you give me some examples using debug4x different than the demogiven in the tool. Do you have some guide to use ts tool.> Since my first HP48, I am using HPPasc (present release 2.1), but i do not> know how to develop libraries with ts sofare. My program were previously> running on HP49, now they are running on HP49+ with no major problem.> Does anybody know how to develop librairies with HPPasc, if it is possible.> If not, wch tool can i use ?> I have to admit I even didn't know about HPPasc before your message in> ts NG. I tnk it was (is?) a big project for the author...> So I can't help you with ts platform.> B I can suggest you to trye Debug4x (wch I actuly use)> http://www.hp.org/hp49/pc/programming/debug4x.zip> Of course you can build so libraries from there. === Subject: Re: phoneaddress bookI use Scribe v1.01a by Jack Levy, converted to the 49g by ainRoard. It works fine in the 49g+ === Subject: Re: phoneaddress book> I once heard of a program 4 the 48gx that made an address book> does anyone have it or can remember it> There are a number of them posted at www.hp.org