A152 Subject: Re: my funny bug >>Built-in tetris game??? Where? Where? > like the easter egg in the HP 49G. Please look to > FAQ on www.hp.org > Start Equation Writer and type > MINEISBETTER > [ENTER] > will start tetris. > what ever mine is better means :-( It refers to ts tetris game, wch is better than the origin tetris easter egg that's a leftover from the 48 s. === Subject: Re: my funny bug > > Built-in tetris game??? Where? Where? like the easter egg in the HP 49G. Please look to > FAQ on www.hp.org Start Equation Writer and type > MINEISBETTER > [ENTER] > will start tetris. > l that does is to put 'MINEISBETTER' on the stack on my ulator. > That's becuase what he meant to say was type mineisbetter no spaces in EQW and then ghlight it and press the 'SIMP' key. Don't get your hopes up though... Gus === Subject: Re: my funny bug > new bug report in 1.23: The built in tetris game stopped working > today! and it was during chemistry too! it doesn't get much worse > than that. warmstarting didn't help, but resetting (on+f1+f6) took > care of it, ong with my user keys. Oh well, at least I now had > sometng to do in class... > Gus You probably activated a flag that make names being evuated differently in the equation writer. I believe it's the Step By Step flag if cleared will prevent the tetris to be launched properly. Note that I'mn not sure anymore but people have reported ts problem for quite a wle .. Next time it happens, simply run the command CASCFG that will reset the CAS === Subject: Re: Custom Menu HP48 GX to HP 49g+ > > I have been using the following custom menu with an Hp 48GX for about > ten years. However, I recently purchased an HP 49g+ wch appears to > choke on it. I would appreciate any suggestions or pointers on how I > need to modify it to work with the 49g+. > > << { HOME UTIL TRIG TRI CIR DRAFT } EV { { RT { RTMENU } } { TRI > { TRIMENU } } { CIR { ENU } } { RT-V { RTVAR } } { TRI-V { > TVAR } } { CIR-V { CVAR } } { P { > { P } EV P > } } { P-V { PV } } { HR >> { HR } EV HR > } { CJ >> { CJ } EV COPE > } } MENU >> >>Well, for that first EV to work, you'll need to have the >>subdirectories stored. That is, { HOME UTIL TRIG TRI CIR DRAFT } has to >>be a vid path. And since TRIG is a built-in XLIB name on the 49G and >>49g+, you'll have to choose a different name for that subdirectory. And >>of course the names such as RTMENU, TRIMENU, and so on will have to be >>defined on the 49g+ for the custom menu to be useful. >> >>Maybe temporarily change TRIG (and anytng else that's a built-in name >>on the 49g+ but not on the 48G series) to sometng else on the 48GX, >>and copy the entire UTIL subdirectory to the 49g+? >> >>I suggest that you review your 48G series documentation; as far as I >>know, custom menus should work the same on the 49g+ as they do on the >>48GX. >> >>If you still have problems, post again, but please transfer your program >>to a text file in ASCII mode with translation option 3, and then copy >>and paste it into your post, so we can see exactly >>what you're working with. > ; You're welcome. > You were right about the TRIG subdirectory - I changed that plus the > name of the program wch was so a reserved name on the 49g+ and it > seems to be working now. I'm glad to read that. New reserved words are ways sometng to watch out for when trying to use legacy programs with a new enhanced version of a programming language. I first ran into that when porting a 28S program to the 48SX, and again when going from the 48SX to the 48GX, and again when going from the 48GX to the 49G. > ts to work on the 48, wch proves if you snooze you loose. Well, if you get away from programming these ulators for a wle, it can be a bit of a problem. For that er, trying to understand a can be difficult if I didn't keep commented source code. > At the risk of seeming completly ignorant - could you please explain > what you mean by ASCII mode with translation option 3. The ASCII part refers to a speci type of Kermit transfer. Basicly, in Kermit ASCII transfer mode, the object is decompiled to the command line editor form before Kermit transfers it. Translation options 0, 1, 2 and 3 are for translations of certain characters in the decompiled code, again before Kermit actuly transfers it. In the case of option 3, a Line Feed not immediately preceded by a Carriage Return is translated to a Carriage Return Line Feed pair, a to , and for characters 128 through 255 (wch probably use a different character set on the PC and are a bit difficult to type on its keyboard), the character is translated to a backslash translation code. For the most commonly used charactets is a mnemonic such as << for the opening program delimiter, -> for the right arrow, Ga for lower case Greek pha, and so on. For less commonly used characteto nnn, where nnn is the 3-digit decim vue of the character. Of course, when the file is transferred back to the ulator, the reverse translation and compilation are done, provided that the file has a proper ASCII transfer header. If you still have your 48G series documentation, see chapter 27 of the User's Guide for more complete information. If you don't have your documentation, you may want to download a copy of the 48G Series User's Guide; see http://www.hp.org/search.php?query=user%27s+guide&hp48=1 You may well want it for use with your 49g+. For the 49g+, instl the latest Conn4x and USB driver package from http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DriverDownload.jsp?taskID=1 35&pnameOID=351776&prodTypeId=215348&loce=en_US&lang=English&prodSeriesId=3 3568 Conn4x doesn't have Kermit (the last time that I checked), but it has a text mode used with Xmodem similar to the ASCII mode in the HP ulators' version of Kermit. The translation options are similar (though I don't know where the translations are done; on the ulator or on the PC), but so low you to leave Line Feeds untranslated wle translating the non-ASCII characteand optionly translate the ASCII control codes 0 through 9, 11 through 31, and 127 to the nnn format independently of either of the above. Translating the control codes may be helpful for strings that include font changes or styles for example, or for any other strings that include ASCII control codes, particularly if you want to print the file in a text mode, or view/edit it using a character set that doesn't display distinct glyphs for the various control codes, for that er. See the Conn4x Help for more information on its text mode. Conn4x so works with the 48G series using an RS-232 style seri connection. For the fullest automation, download and instl the XSRVR library (included in the Conn4x package) on the 48G series ulator. Of course there are lots of sofare packages available that use Kermit (for that er, MS-DOS Kermit works fine for l except the 49g+ via USB), but I don't know of any that low a connection directly to a USB client device such as the 49g+. I expect that it ought to be possible to use Conn4x or any Kermit application with the 49g+ with an RS-232 to IrDA adapter instead of a USB connection. Personly, I'm beginning to like Conn4x, especily because of the new text mode translation options. Too bad that it doesn't (as far as I know) work with the 48SX. Maybe there's an Xmodem application that can be instled on the 48S series that would low it to be used with Conn4x. so note that ASCII/text file transfers are excellent for copying objects from the 48 series to the 49 series. Well, provided that they're vid on the 49 series. There's no need to use any translations as long as you don't actuly want to read/edit the file. You can't use binary transfers for ts. Anyway, for posting lengthy programs meant to be human-readable, I tnk that it's best to use an ASCII (or text) transfer with full translation. Ts avoids erroensures that everyone sees the same tng, and lows any interested reader to correctly download it to s ulator easier. -- === Subject: Re: Kermit question I am trying to use the HP48SX with my Linux Box (Fedora Core 1). Kernel 8.0 is instled by default and I sueded in connecting the PC > with the HP48. The only problemm I have now is that I CAN'T delete any file on the > HP408 by the command rdel. The HP48 ways responds invid command. I suspect that ts mand has been implemented with different name... > any idea? Even if your version of Kermit does implement ts command with a different name, it still won't work with the ulator because the ulator doesn't implement recognition of the G E packet type, wch ts command should rate. Assuming that your Kermit does implement a REMOTE HOST command, REMOTE HOST 'VarName' PURGE ought to work. Possibly, ts command may have a different name such as rhost in your Kermit, and an abbreviation is probably aeptable. After some time I'm again back to comp.sys.hp48 group willing to buy 49g+. In the past (wle being on college) I used hp15c & hp28s and therefore rpn is the only way for me. However, I thought hp49g is the last one from hp and I tried with Pm pda and MathU Pro, but pda is simply not the right tng. Now, I'd like to get hp49g+, but since I'm from Croatia they probably won't have new series for quite some time and the costs around $280. I am tnking about Eric & hp.org but I cannot pay via Payp from Croatia. Any idea where to get 49g+ with the new (redesigned keyboard)? Are hp48g series manus still vid for hp49g+ (I'm mostly interested for UserRpl at the moment === Subject: Re: hp49g+ with redesigned keyboard - where? > After some time I'm again back to comp.sys.hp48 group willing to buy 49g+. In the past (wle being on college) I used hp15c & hp28s and therefore > rpn is the only way for me. However, I thought hp49g is the last one from hp and I tried with Pm > pda and MathU Pro, but pda is simply not the right tng. Now, I'd like to get hp49g+, but since I'm from Croatia they probably won't > have new series for quite some time and the costs around $280. I am tnking about Eric & hp.org but I cannot pay via Payp from > Croatia. Any idea where to get 49g+ with the new (redesigned keyboard)? Are hp48g series manus still vid for hp49g+ (I'm mostly interested > for UserRpl at the moment There are differences and new commands in the 49g+, but the 49g+ user's guide recommends the 48 G series documentation as good references for the non-CAS commands, so keep your old documentation handy. See page C-13 of the 49g+ user's guide. You may so want the 49G Advanced User's Guide, available at http://www.hp.org/search.php?query=advanced+user%27s+guide&hp49=1 As far as I can tell, except for the SD card, I/O use, and some changes to the keyboard, using the 49g+ is basicly the same as using the 49G. -- > There are differences and new commands in the 49g+, but the 49g+ user's > guide recommends the 48 G series documentation as good references for > the non-CAS commands, so keep your old documentation handy. See > page C-13 of the 49g+ user's guide. . Is it old old docs downloadable somewhere? I could not locate it on hp.org. >>There are differences and new commands in the 49g+, but the 49g+ user's >>guide recommends the 48 G series documentation as good references for >>the non-CAS commands, so keep your old documentation handy. See >>page C-13 of the 49g+ user's guide. > . Is it old old docs downloadable somewhere? I could not locate it on hp.org. As far as I know, the 48G series Advanced User's Guide isn't available as a download anywhere online, though http://www.pro.com/ may still have some printed copies for se. But I believe that the 49G Advanced Users Guide so includes l of the non-CAS commands (perhaps the most important part of what's in the 48 G Series AUG), as well as the CAS commands. For the 48 G Series User's Guide, try http://www.hp.org/search.php?query=User%27s+Guide&hp48=1. so, Eric has some printed copies listed for se at http://commerce.hp.org/. And of course there's a lot of other relevant information available at hp.org. so see http://www.engr.uvic.ca/~aschoorl/, http://membres.lycos.fr/ekin/index.php, http://etud.epita.fr/~avenar_j/hp/, and http://m.webring.com/hub?ring=hp48. Keep in mind that most of the information about the older models still applies to the newer models. -- === Subject: Re: hp49g+ with redesigned keyboard - where? try diamron.ch you can pay through I banking internation. write a mail they speak eng, ita and ger > After some time I'm again back to comp.sys.hp48 group willing to buy 49g+. > In the past (wle being on college) I used hp15c & hp28s and therefore > rpn is the only way for me. > However, I thought hp49g is the last one from hp and I tried with Pm > pda and MathU Pro, but pda is simply not the right tng. > Now, I'd like to get hp49g+, but since I'm from Croatia they probably won't > have new series for quite some time and the costs around $280. > I am tnking about Eric & hp.org but I cannot pay via Payp from > Croatia. > Any idea where to get 49g+ with the new (redesigned keyboard)? > Are hp48g series manus still vid for hp49g+ (I'm mostly interested > for UserRpl at the moment === Subject: Re: Just another sml question > so I didn't find yet a way to do, well how is it cled in English...?, > circular integrs. I'm not sure what you mean by circular integrs. Are you tking about line integrs on a closed path, or an integr of a complex variable about a pole? Could you post an example of a circular integr? , Gilberto Urroz === Subject: Re: Just another sml question > And it crashed l the time though my ROM is 1.23 build C. Today I didn't > do notng and it went asp. Again I needed a pin (wch ready has its own > place in one of my drawers). Version 3.54 build 0031 is what I am running right now (on + f4 to view, on + f3 to reboot); seems ok so far, but the build 0029 or whatever went around on hp.org was crash prone in my testing. I haven't used 0031 too much yet, but it hasn't given much trouble either that I've noticed Ed Sutton === Subject: Re: ML address >He is in luck. Here is a assembly routine for polling the buffer: >Running ts piece of code by itself will not harm your HP48. >Stack diagram: -> #key Ts can be shortened somewhat. ;) : CODE GOSBVL =SAVPTR GOSBVL =clrbusy - GOSBVL =KeyInBuff? GOC + GOSBVL #E0B (G/GX: Activate l keyboard OR lines) ST=0 13 GOSBVL (=liteslp)+#34 GOTO - + GOSBVL =POPKEY GOSBVL =clrbusy A=C A GOVLNG =PUSH#OOP ENDCODE ------ --- === Subject: Re: ML address >CODE > GOSBVL =SAVPTR > GOSBVL =clrbusy >- GOSBVL =KeyInBuff? > GOC + > GOSBVL #E0B (G/GX: Activate l keyboard OR lines) > ST=0 13 > GOSBVL (=liteslp)+#34 > GOTO - >+ GOSBVL =POPKEY > GOSBVL =clrbusy Oops. That should be GOSBVL =showbusy . > A=C A > GOVLNG =PUSH#OOP >ENDCODE === Subject: Re: ML address >>CODE >> GOSBVL =SAVPTR >> GOSBVL =clrbusy >>- GOSBVL =KeyInBuff? >> GOC + >> GOSBVL #E0B (G/GX: Activate l keyboard OR lines) >> ST=0 13 >> GOSBVL (=liteslp)+#34 >> GOTO - >>+ GOSBVL =POPKEY >> GOSBVL =clrbusy > Oops. That should be GOSBVL =showbusy . >> A=C A >> GOVLNG =PUSH#OOP >>ENDCODE Very nice I see you post nice ml examples every now and then. Have you written any interesting sofare? Homepage? -- === Subject: Re: ML address >I saw ts code D0=8066B in some program. >What does #8066B and #80669 mean? As pointed out by other poste#80669 is the address of the keybuffer. As for #8066B, that's the start of the actu character stream. (the first o nibbles are the get and set pointers) For more information see : http://www.hp.org/details.php?id=1720 . addresses see http://www.hp.org/details.php?id=5331 for the 48G(X) and http://www.hp.org/details.php?id=4401 for the 49 respectively. For descriptions see rammap.a in the offici 49 supported entry points listing : http://www.hp.org/details.php?id=3247 . Note that wle the addresses are different, the descriptions in rammap.a apply to the 48 as the 49 ram entries are a superset of the 48's. so, don't forget the HP entry database : http://zon.astro.uva.nl/~dominik/hp/entries/index.html . ------ --- === Subject: Re: HP39g+ grapng ulator announced at hp.com Well,it is very disapointing that ts HP39G+ has none of the following features: -Flash technology -User Flash ROM -EQW -RPN How ts ulator is supposed to compete with the TI84+ wch is probably as fast,has more memory,has Flash technology and probably as many functions ? > Ts collection of learning aids are available for the HP 39g+ and > help show how to use it. > http://www.hp.com/ulators/grapng/39gplus/ > http://www.hp.com/ulators/grapng/39gplus/educators.html > http://www.hp.com/ulators/grapng/39gplus/scientists.html > http://www.hp.com/ulators/grapng/39gplus/technic.html > http://www.hp.com/ulators/grapng/39gplus/business.html > http://www.hp.com/ulators/grapng/39gplus/reestate.html > Ts collection of learning aids are available for the HP 39g+. === > Well,it is very disapointing that ts HP39G+ has none of the > following features: > -Flash technology > -User Flash ROM > -EQW > -RPN Why is that disappointing? They ready make a model that has l that; it is the HP 49G+. Not much point in making another model identic to it. === Subject: Re: HP39g+ grapng ulator announced at hp.com Good question for HP, perhaps. I don't know their approach to the gh school market. Of course, if it had those features, why bother with the 48gII or 49g+? -- * These statements and opinions are mine one and do not reflect my employer's views. * > Well,it is very disapointing that ts HP39G+ has none of the > following features: > -Flash technology > -User Flash ROM > -EQW > -RPN > How ts ulator is supposed to compete with the TI84+ wch is > probably as fast,has more memory,has Flash technology and probably as > many functions ? > Ts collection of learning aids are available for the HP 39g+ and > help show how to use it. http://www.hp.com/ulators/grapng/39gplus/ http://www.hp.com/ulators/grapng/39gplus/educators.html > http://www.hp.com/ulators/grapng/39gplus/scientists.html > http://www.hp.com/ulators/grapng/39gplus/technic.html > http://www.hp.com/ulators/grapng/39gplus/business.html > http://www.hp.com/ulators/grapng/39gplus/reestate.html Ts collection of learning aids are available for the HP 39g+. Wright === Subject: Re: HP39g+ grapng ulator announced at hp.com >Good question for HP, perhaps. I don't know their approach to the gh >school market. >Of course, if it had those features, why bother with the 48gII or 49g+? > I tnk the idea is that the price will be attractive. However. . . 1) WHY DID THE EQW GO AWAY! (not directed at you , just at big brother who might be listening considering (hoping) that ts newsgroup is thought of as the pulse of how tngs go in hp land It was ready written and in the 40G! Just take the CAS extensions out and you'd have a killer ulator. The only reason I can tnk of is size restrictions but those wouldn't seem to apply rely. They found room for a financi applet. . . pull sometng unnececary out if it means the EQW is in! Having the EQW built in as the 40G was would do a lot to pce the ulator in a gher appe zone. Why not rease supported E-Lessons similar to the TI flashAPPS. Those beilieve it or not (after games) are one of the tngs us youngsters tnk are one of the most important tngs. Gives our immature minds the misguided conception that it is more powerful. I'd suggest you release the EQW as an E-Lesson and do it soon! No FlashROM. . . WHAT? ? ? ( I smell reeeecaalll !!! =-) No user flash. . . not rely a big problem. More memory would be nice but the 39 was much more stable than the 49 ever was. I never had problems with memory loss. No RPN. . . sad but true. . . I had an applet I was working on that basicly made a sml RPN stack for basic ulations. It worked for sml basic ulations. . . I never released it though. . . and for the life of me I can't find the source anywhere. . . =-( If you want to gain users for gher level s, introduce them to RPN. If it isn't built in, release a supported E-Lesson that has a stack and lows ulations to let them see how much better it is. Invite everyone to try it! On the BOX even! Then when it is time to upgrade they will choose and RPN ! The 39G was a good ulator. Easier to use than a 83 and faster as well for many tngs. With just a few additions and a teen centered marketing startegy it could be a fast seller. === Subject: Re: HP39g+ grapng ulator announced at hp.com The 39G did not have the EQW. Neither does the 39g+, so it didn't go away. It just stayed out. The 40G had a CAS too, but we're tking about the update to the 39G, not the 40G (not that I'm aware of any update COMING for the 40G). It may be that taking the CAS extensions OUT of the 40G to help make the 39g+ would have been a greater task than you or I imagine. Hard to say, since we are on the outside. Can't address the flash/no flash part of it. Colin Croft has a good site with a good de of information about the origin 39g, much of wch (I would assume) will work as well for the 39g+. ! -- -- * These statements and opinions are mine one and do not reflect my employer's views. * >Good question for HP, perhaps. I don't know their approach to the gh >school market. Of course, if it had those features, why bother with the 48gII or 49g+? === Subject: Re: HP39g+ grapng ulator announced at hp.com >The 39G did not have the EQW. Neither does the 39g+, so it didn't go away. >It just stayed out. The 40G had a CAS too, but we're tking about the >update to the 39G, not the 40G (not that I'm aware of any update COMING for >the 40G). It may be that taking the CAS extensions OUT of the 40G to help >make the 39g+ would have been a greater task than you or I imagine. I guess i tend to tnk of the 39/40 as the same. Still having an EQW makes everytng better. I don't tnk taking the EQW code out would EQW just executed the CAS commands. >Hard to say, since we are on the outside. Shame. . . >Colin Croft has a good site with a good de of information about the >origin 39g, much of wch (I would assume) will work as well for the 39g+. >! Cherios! === Subject: Re: Help Pgm Available > for l the work. Check the use of flag -70. > I was working on a similar project. I will still complete it but in not such > a hurry anymore. > You're welcome! I'll look into flag -70. === Subject: Re: Help Pgm Available > I'm pleased to say that my HLP49.LIB help program for the HP49 is > available from http://www.hp.org/apps/misc/hlp49.zip. > I get a Not Found error when I try to aess that site. > Sorry about that - my careless typing. The correct URL is http://www.hp.org/hp49/apps/misc/hlp49.zip And if I didn't get *that* right, it's in hp,in the HP49 section, in APPS, in MISC. === Subject: Re: Help Pgm Available > Probably ts is a FAQ, but why does the HP49g+ provide help text only for > the CAS commands? > Is it because those commands have been included later, or just because > adding them would break backward compatibility? I guess it is a bit of both and so because the CAS was developped independently of the rest of the OS and then integrated. === Subject: Hp 49 g+: vs TI89 and other issues... Please HELP! I own a HP49+, and I worked my way to rely learn to use it, against my friends's advice, they l have ti89 or changed from hp48 to ti89.. I have the money to buy finly the hp49g+, but after reading a few problems with the keyboard and that the eqw it-s not free(it's the same eqw of the older hp49? that would be bad, because was most the only feature in that the hp outperformed the ti89)... So I'm asking anyone to please tell me if it's wise to buy the hp49g+ or just keep the old hp49... do you know if the new models have the same keyboard issues?? or just the first ones? === Subject: Re: Hp 49 g+: vs TI89 and other issues... Please HELP! > I own a HP49+ I guess you meant an HP49G? > (it's the same eqw of the older hp49? that would be bad, because was most > the only feature in that the hp outperformed the ti89) The TI-89 has had an EQW for a few years now (plus there's Samuel's Hail expression writer), so that is no longer an advantage for HP ulators. > So I'm asking anyone to please tell me if it's wise to buy the hp49g+ or just > keep the old hp49... do you know if the new models have the same keyboard > issues?? or just the first ones? If I had an HP49G, I would sell it and get an HP49G+. If your ulator happens to have the missed-keystrokes issue, you can ways ask HP for a replacement. -- === Subject: Re: Hp 49 g+: vs TI89 and other issues... Please HELP! Thank you l for your responses, but I have new doubts about it: how much times is faster than the ti89? and the eqw, what is the eqw that hp is charging for? === Subject: Re: Hp 49 g+: vs TI89 and other issues... Please HELP! > how much times is faster than the ti89? The timings of the TI-89 and HP49G+ are comparable for most operations. -- === Subject: Re: Hp 49 g+: vs TI89 and other issues... Please HELP! > Thank you l for your responses, but I have new doubts about it: how > much times is faster than the ti89? Some benchmarks are at http://page.ath.cx/hptute/compare.htm - Ts page is a comparision beeen the 2 ulators. Speed rely isn't a deciding factor. Just try both and buy the one you like best. >and the eqw, what is the eqw that > hp is charging for? HP doesn't sell programs! The equation writer is built in and free. See http://page.ath.cx/hptute/ There is no 'signing' scheme like there is for some TI ulators. Anyone can write a lib without issue. === Subject: Re: Hp 49 g+: vs TI89 and other issues... Please HELP! > HP doesn't sell programs! The equation writer is built in and free. See > http://page.ath.cx/hptute/ The TI-68k equation writers are so free (besides the Flash app version, wch has addition features). > There is no 'signing' scheme like there is for some TI ulators. > Anyone can write a lib without issue. The signing isn't that big a de. I sent my flash app for a freeware signing and got back the signed app in a few hours. -- === Subject: Re: Hp 49 g+: vs TI89 and other issues... Please HELP! > HP doesn't sell programs! The equation writer is built in and free. See > http://page.ath.cx/hptute/ > The TI-68k equation writers are so free (besides the Flash app > version, wch has addition features). To make sure my site is thoroughly plugged it is http://www.nyl.net there you can find a free equation writer > There is no 'signing' scheme like there is for some TI ulators. > Anyone can write a lib without issue. > The signing isn't that big a de. I sent my flash app for a freeware > signing and got back the signed app in a few hours. Other people have reported waiting times of at least a week === Subject: Re: Hp 49 g+: vs TI89 and other issues... Please HELP! Don: I'm not quite sure that I understand your question about the eqw (equation writer?). The equation writer is essentily the same one that has been in the 48s and 48g, and 49G series. The main difference is that it is much, much faster in the 49G+. If you mean the equation library, that is not included in the 49G+; however, there are equation libraries available free from www.hp.org that can be readily loaded in. Jsut go to the website and do a search for eql49. You'll get at least o choices. I am using equ49 2.7 and it works fine. Aording to recent posts on ts newsgroup, the newer models of the hp49G+ do not have the keyboard problems. > I own a HP49+, and I worked my way to rely learn to use it, against > my friends's advice, they l have ti89 or changed from hp48 to ti89.. > I have the money to buy finly the hp49g+, but after reading a few > problems with the keyboard and that the eqw it-s not free(it's the > same eqw of the older hp49? that would be bad, because was most the > only feature in that the hp outperformed the ti89)... So I'm asking > anyone to please tell me if it's wise to buy the hp49g+ or just keep > the old hp49... do you know if the new models have the same keyboard > issues?? or just the first ones? === Subject: Numeric methods for SIN regression Well I currently have no programming project to work on and a short wle back I recieved a message about SIN regression, so I tnk I'll give it a try. Does anyone know of a website that gives the procedure one would use to ulate a sinusodi regression? I'd appreciate it very much. ! === Subject: Re: Numeric methods for SIN regression > Well I currently have no programming project to work on and a short > wle back I recieved a message about SIN regression, so I tnk I'll > give it a try. Does anyone know of a website that gives the procedure > one would use to ulate a sinusodi regression? I'd appreciate it > very much. ! Isn't ts built-in? It is on the 68k. Anyway, you should be able to use ordinary least-squares to minimize the residu y-(a*sin(b*x+c)+d). One possibility for nonlinear least-squares is Levenberg-Marquardt. -- === Subject: Re: Random Number rator fo 48/9 series. > I was wondering if there is a program to rate lists of random > numbers on any of the HP4* series ulators. >Well, not built-in (as far as I know), but l of the RPL ulators >have the RAND command, so of course you can make you own program to >rate a list of pseudo-random numbers. For example, >1 20 START RAND NEXT 20 ->LIST >will make a list of 20 pseudo-random numbers beeen 0 and 1 (not >inclusive of 0 and 1, I believe). Of course, a truly uniform >distribution in a reasonably sized sample would be rather unlikely from >any reasonable random number rator. >Or I suppose that if you don't like the ulators' RAND command, you >could even use some other gorithm to rate pseudo-random numbers. > I have found a short > MAPLE worksheet that does it, but was wondering if it would be > possible do it on my ulator? I would like to be able to rate > a series lists with up to 20 random numbers in each list. t would like > to keep the list of random numbers witn a certain range >Easy enough; multiply each result by a constant to expand or contract >the range, and then add a constant to that to sft the range. For >example, modifying the procedure to >1 20 START RAND 2 * 5 + NEXT 20 ->LIST >changes the range to beeen 5 and 7. >< and with a > defined Mean and standard deviation. >A defined (well, approximate actuly) mean and standard deviation is >so possible, but guaranteeing that l results will so be witn a >defined range at the same time may be a little tricky. If you want a >norm distribution, then I expect that you'll just have to live with >the probabilities. >Again plagiarizing from Wickes's Insights, the following program >computes normly distributed random numbers with (approximately) zero >mean and standard deviation 1. >%%HP: T(3)A(R)F(.); >@ Name: NORM >@ Norm distribution rator >@ Checksum (on 48GX): # 88E7h >@ Size: 45 >@ NORM leaves radians mode active. ><< RAND LN -2 * v/ RAND 2 * pi ->NUM * RAD COS * >> >With the mean and standard deviation on stack levels 2 and 1 >respectively, the following program computes random numbers with >(approximately) the desired mean and standard deviation. >%%HP: T(3)A(R)F(.); >@ Name: MNORM >@ Modified norm distribution rator >@ Checksum (on 48GX): # 7038h >@ Size: 22.5 >@ MNORM leaves radians mode active. ><< NORM * + >> >Example: rate 500 data points from a norm distribution with mean >10 and standard deviation 3.16 and store it as a matrix in GSDAT. >.12345 RDZ 1 500 START 10 3.16 MNORM NEXT { 500 1 } ->ARRY STOGS >Ok, it has a mean of about 9.850 and a sample standard deviation of >about 3.085, but we want some randomness, don't we? A perfect fit from >a random rator (or any re-world data) would seem rather >suspicious. It turns out the the minimum vue is about 3.03 standard >deviations below the actu mean, and the maximum vue is about 2.84 >standard deviations above the actu mean; both seem reasonable to me, >and a stogram of the data looks reasonably close to a norm curve. >But we don't usuly expect 12 significant digits in our data. How about >if I want 3 decim places? >.12345 RDZ 1 500 START 10 3.16 MNORM 3 RND NEXT { 500 1 } ->ARRY STOGS >Ts again gives me a mean of about 9.850 and a sample standard >deviation of about 3.085, with a minimum vue about 3.03 standard >deviations below the mean and a maximum vue about 2.84 standard >deviations above the mean, and the stogram looks the same to me. Based >on the data and basic statistic anysis one, who would question it? >The .12345 RDZ sequence sets the seed so that we get exactly the same >set of vues every time; for a different set every time, leave that >out. >Ts is probably good for rating completely fraudulent data, >provided that the culprit rounds off the data vues appropriately and >checks that the results rely do prove what he wants them to. >Modify the above routines to suit your needs. For example, use ->LIST >instead of ->ARRY if you want a list, combine MNORM and NORM into one >program, maybe even combine the sequence for rating the array into >it, but perhaps prompting or using an input form for n, mean, and >standard deviation. If you don't ways want to be in radians mode, add >code to recl, save, and restore the initi flag vues. Maybe even >add code to so return the statistic results and compare them with >some particular criteria. >But perhaps a port of the Maple worksheet would better suit your needs? Ts seems about what I want to do. I can use MAPLE to do it, but I don't want to have to lug a laptop around. It will be nice to be able to do ts on my HP48GX or 49G+, Ts will let me create data sets on the fly. If your are interested, every semester for sever classes I have to rate 25 to 50 different data sets of varying sizes to see if my students can find the mean and standard deviation of that list of numbers ( The hard way, They can't use the mean and S.D capabilities of the ulators.) We then point out to them that their ulators have ts capability. Many of my students just barely know how to add,subtract,multiply,and divide on their ulator. ( exaggerating) It is rely nice to be able to create a list of known size with a predetermined mean and standard deviation up front as opposed to typing in the numbefinding the mean and then ulating the S,D, Being able to do ts quickly is a great advantage, because believe it or not students, do tell other students what questions are on exams,even if it means that students who take a test later have some advantage over the ones that take the test first. Ts so applies to data sets too. Sounds a bit like the recent ruckus about the U.S. EIT, P.E.,and Surveying exams. === Subject: Re: Filer6 for HPG49+ released > Filer bugs. Here a few examples, some of them fixed in Filer6: > 1. If suspending a filer session with HT and returning with CONT to > the standard filer, the header is not updated. HLT is still visible (JYA >forgot to add a ?DispStatus command . With Filer6 you can update > the header with key U wch so discards the selection tags and regains > the origin order if the files were sorted. 2. If the clock is active, it is simply frozen during a filer session > wch may have bad consequences! Again, in Filer6 you can at least > update the actu time with key U (and toggle the clock with TIME). 3. Name sorting on key N is overwritten by EV. I found no hardkey for > that anymore. Hence, in Filer6 Name sorting is on rigthsft N (inverse > name sorting was ways and remains on leftsft N). 4. The search with double-click on pha is not a clever solution of > seacng. Besides it is case-sensitive. We are waiting in vain of an > improvement wch was demonstrated ready in Filer2. 5. Both COPY and MOVE simply overwrite backup-objects in the ports. Ts > may be fairly dangerous. 6. The TREE does not support directory splitting on the card ... I can > notng do. Ts should be done in the ROM. > Excellent work, Professor! I don't know how many people use the advantages of Filer6. The above bug listing is incomplete: Being in a directory other than HOME, the dot key does *not* set HOME immediately as it should but simply beeps. Fixed in Filer6 like sever other bugs you'll not be aware of at once. Note the wunderful Quote-function on key Q (no such functionity in the built-in filer). It quotes a name, tagged with the port number if has to be quoted, e.g., as :3:DOCS/THE BIBLE/CHP 1. For only ts can be a vid argument for EV and RCL and is usable in programs! Thus, the card can fully be integrated in programming so in case of a complex file structure on the card. http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/~raut/WR49/index.htm#r === Subject: Re: USAG program (version 49G) GaaK ha scritto nel messaggio > , at my web Details: use FONT8 and flag -72 is cleared. (then restore it). > USAG 49 is based in the program USAG for HP 48 by Hewlett Packard, but > the conversion is only by GaaK. > Indeed, a very useful tool, IMHO. Great job, -- Per rispondere rimuovere il SiPAriuM To reply remove the SiPAriuM === Subject: Hp49g+ Advise to l Friends that use Hp ulators Well I've been hearing ot of Bla, Bla about the new Hp 49g+ Key board Problems and so about the short battery life. I Live in Mexico and have been using Hp48g,Hp48gx and Hp49G for the last 9 years. In the present I sold my 49g and been planning to buy a new 49g+. I hear so much problems that I rely don't know if I sould buy ts new ulator. Does any body know if there is a improved keyboard in the future or a new hp ulator?? Should i wait? or you fellows please give me an advise please. === Subject: Re: Hp49g+ Advise Tobias: The only significant keyboard problem that has been rly reported is the failure of some keys to register properly in earlier units. though ts was not a problem for everyone (I have never had it and I bought my 49G+ fairly early), it appears to be fixable by using what is being referred to on ts newsgroup as the wiggle fix. so, it is now being reported that recent releases of the ulator have an improved keyboard without the problems. Ts is covered in more detail in other threads. The battery life problem seems to have been fixed with release of upgraded operating systems - particularly versions 1.22 and 1.23. Again, ts is a problem I have never experienced. I have been using my ulator for a couple of hours per day since I got it last October. I have never had to change batteries and have upgraded my operating system ice. I have used the 48sx, 48gx, 49G, and now the 49G+. The 49G+ is much faster and much easier to read than the others. If you need that much ulator, the 49G+ is an excellent investment. If you don't need the grapng capabilities, the 33S might be worth a short wait. === Subject: Re: Hp49g+ Advise > Does any body know if there is a improved keyboard in the future or a > new hp ulator?? > Should i wait? or you fellows please give me an advise please. If you don't need grapng, wait a couple months for the 33S === Subject: New Headman w/ Read Well asked me to look at a Headman version he sent and post here. Here are my thoughts: The Good 1) I like the browser. It makes switcng beeen documents easily. 2) Charts now will display fine. The Bad 1) Slow sideways scolling. I'd suggest having the L || R arrows jump 1 scrren left or right. Sft L || R would move four pixels at a time. Ts would be much faster and easier. 2) No way to link GROBs or anytng. I know the cut text pages are dropped on the stack and then loaded up individuly. You earlier suggested someon might make a ML cursor routine to click links but that would be overly complicated and the keypad would need to be redefined. A simple search for a certain substring such as *LINK/ or whatever would work easily. A routine such as ts before running the program would give any lisk on the page. DUPDUP *LINK/ BINT1 POS$ #6+ 2DUP n SWAP POS$ #1- SUB$ gives the name of the linked file. Put it in a loop to get any other links. Now just stick that onto the current directory of the browser int eh card. . . and there we go! If someone wanted to put ter links in a folder, they'd just have to put *LINK/myfolder/pic1 in the file. Don't want to see that in the text? After searcng, just replace it in the string with sometng nice like To jump to the links, push L. The Ugly === Subject: Re: New Headman w/ Read > Well asked me to look at a Headman version he sent and post > here. Here are my thoughts: > The Good > 1) I like the browser. It makes switcng beeen documents easily. > 2) Charts now will display fine. > The Bad > 1) Slow sideways scolling. Made much faster today. Scrolling sideways now jumps 1 character at a time as long as RightArrow is hold down. Ts is faster than in ViewP. Could be made still faster by keeping grobs, not strings on the stack. But that may demand too much temporary memory. > 2) No way to link GROBs or anytng. You want too much at once IMHO, the link problem is not solvable as easy as you suggest. But I have notng against sending me an improved version of Headman. At the time being, load the new Headman from http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/~raut/WR49/index.htm#r PS. so a search option will be nice. Key S could launch a search diog wch ghlightens the word if found. so ts is not so easy as it may look like since Ebook and Edocu don't edit anytng. === Subject: hp48GX vs hp 49g+ What happened to l the cool built in user libs in the 48GX? Yes the 49g+ has more memory, but it seems it cant tk to the 48GX or transfer file from the 48GX it does not come with any of the libs. What exactly are we paying for ? the extra lines on the display? The case or body of the 49g+ does not seem as strong as the 48GX, there is no meat to it. The case design on the 48GX was pretty solid, unforntuanly you could not take it apart. I would like to down load my libraries from the 48GX then upload them to the 49g+. Anyone do ts yet? I dont have a cable for the GX. Can the GX tk to a labtop using the IR port? lwd === Subject: Re: hp48GX vs hp 49g+ > What happened to l the cool built in user libs in the 48GX? growing, upgrading from origin 48-OS to Java and then to MetaKernel, learning Erable-g48, and hours and more hours of programing my own... last summer I decided to buy a spare 48GX with Klotz Ram cards instead the new 49G+. Only my choice best Raul L === Subject: help with new 49g+ I just ordered a new hp 49g+, and want to know what the first tng I should do with it, like upgrading the ROM and such. I'm just a beginer and don't know much about RPN. I had a 48GX for three months, but the screen broke in my bag. Wch leads me to my next question, Do I need to put a piece of plastic or card board in the case to protect my new ? for the help === Subject: Re: help with new 49g+ [MODE] [+/-] [ENTER] > I just ordered a new hp 49g+, and want to know what the first tng I > should do with it, like upgrading the ROM and such. I'm just a > beginer and don't know much about RPN. I had a 48GX for three months, > but the screen broke in my bag. Wch leads me to my next question, > Do I need to put a piece of plastic or card board in the case to > protect my new ? > for the help === Subject: LSQ ??? One more bug ??? I tried today to use the LSQ function on the 49G+, but ... somehow the function rely didn't return the vues i was waiting for, could somebody confirm ts problem ? Furthermore, the numeric solver if you enter the matrix in symbolic mode, is that norm too, i mean is it the same for other people ? I'm using the rom version 1.23. thank you. === Subject: Re: LSQ ??? One more bug ??? >I tried today to use the LSQ function on the 49G+, but ... somehow the >function rely didn't return the vues i was waiting for, could >somebody confirm ts problem ? >Furthermore, the numeric solver if you enter the matrix in symbolic >mode, is that norm too, i mean is it the same for other people ? >I'm using the rom version 1.23. >thank you. What did you enter? What did you expect? What did you get? === Subject: hp49g+ : THE END OF THE QUEST ! to one of the greatest HP programmers ever, I’ve rated a list of the supported BUS entries (wch, as you may ready know, are direct ARM aessing commands), as provided by applying ASM-> (of the offici ROM 1.23-C VERSION: 03.54 BUILD NUMBER 0031) to l BUS $yx sequences, and keeping the ones giving a mnemonic instead of the $8OByx sequence : the list includes the xy data (please note it is reversed), and x is skipped if null. # 0 RPL2 # 5 BEEP2 # 6 MOVEDN # 7 MOVEUP # 8 CRTMP N.B. Those are obviously the MOVEDOWN, MOVEUP and CREATETEMP entries, reprogrammed in native ARM for speed increase. N.B. though not documented, # 9h can rate beeps aording C:B, I’m certain of it. # A KEYDN # B GOSLOW # 10 OFF # 11 GETTIME # 12 SETTIME N.B. Those o latter commands low you to use the timer, wch as # 13 RESETOS # 14 AUTOTEST # 15 NATIVE? $15 # 17 SERI # 28 HST=1.5 # 29 HSCREEN # 2A WSCREEN # 2B MIDAPP? # 2C BIGAPP? N.B. Big apple, perhaps ts is the secret code name of the 49g+, what do you tnk ? # 30 CONFIGD # 31 UNCNFGD # 32 REFRESHD # 33 SETLNED N.B. Try C=0.A BUS $33, by the way, but you can use WR's Headman too # 34 SETOFFD # 38 ?HST=1.5 GOYES there N.B. BUS $83 $xy *there # 50 REMON # 51 REMOFF # 56 OUTBYT # 60 AESSSD # 61 PORTTAG? # 7F SETFLD14 # 80 B=B WP # 81 B+B WP # 82 B-B WP # 83 B*B WP # 84 B/B WP # 85 B%B WP # 86 B=~B WP # 87 B=-B WP # 88 BB WP # 8A B^B WP # EF ARMSYS # FF ARMSAT My guess is he’s after the queen says some wise character that you may remember (and that you will see again in may 2005). Er, well, in fact, my guess is those o latter ARM commands, ARMSYS and ARMSAT, can respectively SWITCH INTO NATIVE ARM (you don’t dream !) and switch back into emulated Saturn. Detailled informations and parameters remain to be discovered and documented, but I advise you to learn ARM9 assembly language at once ! --- The HP-Force is with me, ways === Subject: Re: hp49g+ : THE END OF THE QUEST ! > # 17h SERI bytes (ascii coded). And the SERI ARM command is of course used inside the SERI romptr of the 256 devlib. > # 29 HSCREEN > # 2A WSCREEN In addition, I can tell you that those o ARM commands respectively give the height and the width of the screen (the re screen of the ulator) in A:A. For example, HSCREEN acts like LA 00050 and WSCREEN acts like LA 00083. Perhaps those commands mean it is possible to set a larger display, putting the adresse of a larger grob than 131x80 into the HARDBUFF ? > # 2Bh MIDAPP? Ts command seems to ways unset the carry on the 49g+, at least in norm mode. > # 2Ch BIGAPP? Ts command seems to ways set the carry on the 49g+, at least in norm mode. In addition, a mere code containing : CODE 81B1 ENDCODE doesn't do anytng. Ts prooves that 81B1 can be used as a quick replacement of the usu sequence A=DAT0 A D0+5 PC=(A). There's sometng more interesting : probing the FSE routine, I saw that it uses BUS $30. CODE BUS $30 ENDCODE When ts code, once compiled, is evuated, it is left on the stack (and doesn't bug, so ts means the # 3 BUS command is capable to go back to RPL). Furthermore, cling BUS $30 lows to keep on the stack the object wch is being evuated (like the FSE object for instance). === Subject: Re: hp49g+ : THE END OF THE QUEST ! > I haven't understood sometng : if BUS ARMSAT switches the OS in ARM > mode, how can you then use BUS ARMSAT ? I tnk we have to find the > subroutine designed for switcng back to Saturn mode. I believe that's (partily) the purpose of ARMSAT. Perhaps there's a command you have to use inside the ARM code to tell the processor that you're going back to Saturn code (just like in Saturn ASM, you used to write A=DAT0 A D0+5 PC=(A) to go back to RPL), and then in saturn code, you use ARMSAT... > and parameters remain to be discovered and documented, but I advise > you to learn ARM9 assembly language at once ! > So ts is how our dear saturn ends :( Not necessarily, if I guessed right, the 49g+ both supports ARM and Saturn programming, so you can choose beeen the o assembly languages. === Subject: Re: hp49g+ : THE END OF THE QUEST ! > Er, well, in fact, my guess is those o latter ARM commands, ARMSYS > and ARMSAT, can respectively SWITCH INTO NATIVE ARM (you don’t > dream !) and switch back into emulated Saturn. Detailled informations > and parameters remain to be discovered and documented, but I advise > you to learn ARM9 assembly language at once ! -- BUS 0xFE - ARMSYS Set the ARM PC to the 32-bit vue in the first 8 nibbles of the C register. Ts particular BUS code does not perform any kind of error checking, nor does it save the current PC on the stack. It simply performs a 'GOTO' command in the ARM domain to the address specified by Saturn register C (nibbles 7 thru 0), after first clearing bit 0 and bit 1 of the address to make sure that the address lies on a 4-byte boundary. The address is ARM domain, not Saturn domain. Ts BUS code is essentily unusable for the user due to the fact that the user has no visibility into ARM domain addresses. Register contents after command: R0 = Saturn PC + 5 R1 = Glob Base --------- BUS 0xFF - ARMSAT Cl the ARM subroutine at Saturn address specified by the A field of register C. Ts BUS code performs the rough equivent of a 'GOSUB' in the ARM domain. It first takes the contents of the A field of the C register and converts it to the equivent ARM domain address. It then sets the ARM PC to that address, but leaves the link register intact and pointing to the return address from the BUS execution. Ts apparently is the BUS code that can actuly be used to execute user-provided ARM code. I believe that l a user has to do to execute a custom ARM function is to create the function using position independent code (and placing the ARM command BX LR at the end!), encode it as an HP code object, get the Saturn address of the object, put it in the A field of the C register, and then execute BUS FF. Let the hacking commence! Register contents after command: R0 = Saturn PC + 5 R1 = Glob Base - Some interesting variable locations in the ARM domain: (l 32-bit variables) Saturn register A (low order 8 nibbles) = Base + 0x90C Saturn register A (gh order 8 nibbles) = Base + 0x910 Saturn register B (low order 8 nibbles) = Base + 0x914 Saturn register B (gh order 8 nibbles) = Base + 0x918 Saturn register C (low order 8 nibbles) = Base + 0x91C Saturn register C (gh order 8 nibbles) = Base + 0x920 Saturn register D (low order 8 nibbles) = Base + 0x924 Saturn register D (gh order 8 nibbles) = Base + 0x928 Saturn register R0 (low order 8 nibbles) = Base + 0x92C Saturn register R0 (gh order 8 nibbles) = Base + 0x930 Saturn register R1 (low order 8 nibbles) = Base + 0x934 Saturn register R1 (gh order 8 nibbles) = Base + 0x938 Saturn register R2 (low order 8 nibbles) = Base + 0x93C Saturn register R2 (gh order 8 nibbles) = Base + 0x940 Saturn register R3 (low order 8 nibbles) = Base + 0x944 Saturn register R3 (gh order 8 nibbles) = Base + 0x948 Saturn register R4 (low order 8 nibbles) = Base + 0x94C Saturn register R4 (gh order 8 nibbles) = Base + 0x950 Saturn register d0 = Base + 0x954 Saturn register d1 = Base + 0x958 Saturn register P = Base + 0x95C Saturn register ST = Base + 0x968 Saturn register HST = Base + 0x96C Saturn register CARRY = Base + 0x970 Saturn register DECIM_MODE = Base + 0x974 ; dec = 1, hex = 0 -------- The above information was obtained through anysis of disassembled ARM code and is part of an upcoming BUS information sheet that I'm writing. Ts information is free to dietribute, though I'd appreciate it if I were given some credit for it. It is by no means guaranteed to be correct, so use it at your own risk! - ldinger rh_public AT mindspring DOT com === Subject: Re: hp49g+ : THE END OF THE QUEST ! >Ts apparently is the BUS code that can actuly be used to execute >user-provided ARM code. I believe that l a user has to do to execute a >custom ARM function is to create the function using position independent >code (and placing the ARM command BX LR at the end!), encode it as an HP >code object, get the Saturn address of the object, put it in the A field of >the C register, and then execute BUS FF. Let the hacking commence! I most fell off my chair when I saw ts post! So who will have the honor of being the first to write sometng? I'd love to see it even if it doesn't rely do anytng. . . =) === Subject: hp49g+ : THE BEGINNING OF A NEW QUEST ? > # EF ARMSYS > # FF ARMSAT > My guess is he’s after the queen says some wise character that > you may remember (and that you will see again in may 2005). > Er, well, in fact, my guess is those o latter ARM commands, ARMSYS > and ARMSAT, can respectively SWITCH INTO NATIVE ARM (you don’t > dream !) and switch back into emulated Saturn. Detailled informations I haven't understood sometng : if BUS ARMSAT switches the OS in ARM mode, how can you then use BUS ARMSAT ? I tnk we have to find the subroutine designed for switcng back to Saturn mode. > and parameters remain to be discovered and documented, but I advise > you to learn ARM9 assembly language at once ! So ts is how our dear saturn ends :( === Subject: Re: hp49g+ : THE END OF THE QUEST ! Congratulations for your resource, Now we need to know how to use these commands: # 30 CONFIGD # 31 UNCNFGD # 34 SETOFFD These commands are used to display a grob in Header. > to one of the greatest HP programmers ever, I’ve > rated a list of the supported BUS entries (wch, as you may > ready know, are direct ARM aessing commands), as provided by > applying ASM-> (of the offici ROM 1.23-C VERSION: 03.54 BUILD NUMBER > 0031) to l BUS $yx sequences, and keeping the ones giving a > mnemonic instead of the $8OByx sequence : the list includes the xy > data (please note it is reversed), and x is skipped if null. > # 0 RPL2 > # 5 BEEP2 > # 6 MOVEDN > # 7 MOVEUP > # 8 CRTMP > N.B. Those are obviously the MOVEDOWN, MOVEUP and CREATETEMP entries, > reprogrammed in native ARM for speed increase. > N.B. though not documented, # 9h can rate beeps aording C:B, > I’m certain of it. > # A KEYDN > # B GOSLOW > # 10 OFF > # 11 GETTIME > # 12 SETTIME > N.B. Those o latter commands low you to use the timer, wch as > # 13 RESETOS > # 14 AUTOTEST > # 15 NATIVE? $15 > # 17 SERI > # 28 HST=1.5 > # 29 HSCREEN > # 2A WSCREEN > # 2B MIDAPP? > # 2C BIGAPP? > N.B. Big apple, perhaps ts is the secret code name of the 49g+, > what do you tnk ? > # 30 CONFIGD > # 31 UNCNFGD > # 32 REFRESHD > # 33 SETLNED > > # 38 ?HST=1.5 GOYES there > N.B. BUS $83 $xy *there > # 50 REMON > # 51 REMOFF > # 56 OUTBYT > # 60 AESSSD > # 61 PORTTAG? > # 7F SETFLD14 > # 80 B=B WP > # 81 B+B WP > # 82 B-B WP > # 83 B*B WP > # 84 B/B WP > # 85 B%B WP > # 86 B=~B WP > # 87 B=-B WP > # 88 B # 89 B>B WP > # 8A B^B WP > # EF ARMSYS > # FF ARMSAT > My guess is he’s after the queen says some wise character that > you may remember (and that you will see again in may 2005). > Er, well, in fact, my guess is those o latter ARM commands, ARMSYS > and ARMSAT, can respectively SWITCH INTO NATIVE ARM (you don’t > dream !) and switch back into emulated Saturn. Detailled informations > and parameters remain to be discovered and documented, but I advise > you to learn ARM9 assembly language at once ! > > --- > The HP-Force is with me, ways === Subject: Re: Redesigned Keyboard? I got the new ulator today.. and the keyboard is amazing.. no hollow sound, no missed keys...easily touch typable. my seri number is ... CN352xxxxx > I just got my new one today, seri number starting CN352... > > The tech rep. so said that it was in fact > > going to be the newer keyboard that I would be recieving, supporting > > it with the differences beeen seri numbers. Hope ts helps. Ill > > let you know when it arrives. > > -Assh > I am wondering if you can tell me beginning with wch seri numbers > are the ones that have the redesigned keyboard? in advance. > Ts would help a lot. === Subject: Re: Redesigned Keyboard? The tech support is great. Very helpful and clearly understood. They replaced mine witn 2 days. The new one doesn't give anymore missed keystrokes at l. And it's so little quieter if you take care to notice it. I did a little experiment. If you sort of drop it, or place it roughly on a wooden desk, from about 1 inch up, the origin gives a little rattle sound coming from the keys, whereas the new is silent. My seri is so 352*****. Ts experience shows HP rely listens to its customevery nice. Dave === Subject: Re: Redesigned Keyboard? Dave, Im Wilber Tindl and I am a teacher who keep grades on my 49G not the the 49G+. can you tell me where you purchase your hp49G+? Is it rely reliable and where can I get one with the new keyboard? so, for your time. Wilber Tindl Stratford HS wilbertindl@berkeley.k12.sc.us > The tech support is great. Very helpful and clearly understood. They > replaced mine witn 2 days. The new one doesn't give anymore missed > keystrokes at l. And it's so little quieter if you take care to > notice it. I did a little experiment. If you sort of drop it, or place > it roughly on a wooden desk, from about 1 inch up, the origin > gives a little rattle sound coming from the keys, whereas the new > is silent. My seri is so 352*****. Ts experience shows HP rely > listens to its customevery nice. > === Subject: Re: Is my 49 SD card reader dead. Format the card using Linux. Just insert the card in the device and use the following command to format it: mkfs.msdos /dev/sda # presumes /dev/sda is your SD device Do not aess the SD as e.g., /dev/sda1 The SD then may be mounted both in Linux and the HP49g+ Good luck Arne > Yesterday I was playing with my SD card reader to see if I could get > it to work with Linux. > Linux didn't like what he saw so I told m to format the card in > FAT16. > Back to Windows XP, Windows didn't like what he saw so I told m to > reformat the card in FAT. > Back to Linux now he recognised the card as being FAT16 and I could > use it in both Linux and Windows. > Back to the hp49g+, he didn't even see he had a card so I told m to > reformat it. Format failed so I reformated in windows as FAT, the 49 > didn't see the card and still refuses to format it. > I had read that card reader die. Is my 49's card reader dead? > for your help, > === Subject: Re: Is my 49 SD card reader dead. > Yesterday I was playing with my SD card reader to see if I could get > it to work with Linux. > Linux didn't like what he saw so I told m to format the card in > FAT16. > Back to Windows XP, Windows didn't like what he saw so I told m to > reformat the card in FAT. > Back to Linux now he recognised the card as being FAT16 and I could > use it in both Linux and Windows. > Back to the hp49g+, he didn't even see he had a card so I told m to > reformat it. Format failed so I reformated in windows as FAT, the 49 > didn't see the card and still refuses to format it. > I had read that card reader die. Is my 49's card reader dead? > for your help, > It hapened the same for me, or most, I formated it using Win98 and worked perfectly. I struggled with XP and the but no luck, when the was seeing the card XP didn't and vice-versa I was scared that I destroyed my 's SD port. In Win'98 just format it, no label, no other specifications, Win'98 formats everytng below the 640Mb limit in FAT16, above ts vue the filesystem should be specified as FAT16 or FAT32. Good luck, Vi. === Subject: Re: GROB and SysRPL , got it working, tons faster and a bit smler. > Ts is how i do it: First draw the grob, and place it in level 1. Then > use ->S2 from library 256 to decompile it. Then copy the GROB line to your > program, without the @. Make sure l the grob definition is in one line. > If I have a GROB and want to use it in my SysRPL program, how do I go > about > doing that? Specificly, in my SysRPL program, I'd like to be able to > just > cl the GROB to display it instead of having to manuly draw the grapc > to the display with LINEON, GROB!, etc. Using a GROB would save space and > would be a lot faster. I just don't know how to do it. === Subject: Re: GROB and SysRPL > ... by the way, it may be faster, but i don't tnk it saves space. It depends on whether the grob is easy or complex to be drawn on the fly. In my Resis5 program (a resistor color decoder) I drew the top part during execution time, but the drawing of the resistor is stored in a variable, because it took more bytes to build it on the fly than just to have it stored. -- Reply: Erase beeen the dot (inclusive) and the @. Responder: Borra la frase obvia y el punto previo. === Subject: My HP 49G+ is locking up after less than 3 weeks......help! I bought a brand new HP 49G+ less than 3 weeks ago to use in my college classes. I haven't dropped it, or otherwise abused it in any way. Today when I tried to use it, an error message was on the screen as soon as I powered it up and I could not get the to do anytng. I ended up having to take the batteries out for sever minutes. After that, it seemed to power on fine and performed ulations without error for a minute or o, then it proceeded to lockup again. Again, I had to take the batteries out to get it to unlock. Has anyone else come across ts problem, and if so, how did you fix it? === Subject: Re: 49G+ New Keyboard Ts is for America only? I live in Ity, and I'd like to know if I can cl some European number to have a replacement. Someone knows telephone number for Europe? (for Ity is better) e >800-474-6836 >> I too am fed up with the old keyboard. >> could you tell me what number you cled I'd like >> to get a replacement so. >> thanxs >> Merlyn === Subject: Re: 49G+ New Keyboard the number you need for Ity is 0422-424531. Just remember that in Ity they want you to sp back the defected ulator before sending the new one. Giancarlo > Ts is for America only? > I live in Ity, and I'd like to know if I can cl some European number to have > a replacement. > Someone knows telephone number for Europe? (for Ity is better) > e >800-474-6836 I too am fed up with the old keyboard. > could you tell me what number you cled I'd like > to get a replacement so. thanxs Merlyn > === Subject: Re: 49G+ New Keyboard - please don't contact ts person > When i cled and complained, they asked for my address and l my > person information, but they told me to sp the ulator to > Shannon > Carson, Cifornia > Do you tnk they will sp the new one out without me sending my old > ulator back to them? Should i cl and complain some more? : Ts is certainly not the way to make friends and influence people. for broadcasting someone's person information l around the net. If someone knows how to send a cancel message to delete ex's origin post with Shannon's person info in it, please do so. Ts is very disappointing. The person originly stated in ts previous post by ex is not the contact point, I have been told, for any issues people are having with a 49g+. If you have any issues, please cl the 1-800-HPINVENT telephone number and let's leave Shannon one. Sigh, === Subject: Re: 49G+ New Keyboard - please don't contact ts person > When i cled and complained, they asked for my address and l my > person information, but they told me to sp the ulator to Shannon > Carson, Cifornia > : Ts is certainly not the way to make friends and influence > people. for broadcasting someone's person information l > around the net. What person information? That's the name and address given to me as well for returning the hp 49g+ to HP. THEY gave it out. It's not her home address, it's an HP address to handle returns. -- === Subject: Re: 49G+ New Keyboard - please don't contact ts person >>>When i cled and complained, they asked for my address and l my >>>person information, but they told me to sp the ulator to >>>Shannon >>>Carson, Cifornia >>: Ts is certainly not the way to make friends and influence >>people. for broadcasting someone's person information l >>around the net. > What person information? That's the name and address given to me as well > for returning the hp 49g+ to HP. THEY gave it out. It's not her home > address, it's an HP address to handle returns. > I just cled HP tech support. They want me to send the ulator to the same address (though they told me a different name: New Age 49g+ Returns) That must be the HP return center. === Subject: Re: 49G+ New Keyboard - please don't contact ts person > > When i cled and complained, they asked for my address and l my > > person information, but they told me to sp the ulator to > > Shannon > > Carson, Cifornia > > : Ts is certainly not the way to make friends and influence > people. for broadcasting someone's person information l > around the net. > What person information? That's the name and address given to me as well > for returning the hp 49g+ to HP. THEY gave it out. It's not her home > address, it's an HP address to handle returns. > : They may have given the address to some of you, but that doesn't mean they or Shannon want it posted to the world. If HP wanted these returned to a specific address, how do you know they aren't having them sent to an individu? The individu whose name/address was posted is very upset about it. People are now apparently trying to directly contact/cl the person in Carson, Cifornia, wch is causing, (so I hear) a lot of headaches. It is NOT the prescribed procedure. The net is a wonderful way to share information, but sadly, there are times when people don't tnk before typing up someone's name, address, and email/phone number. A cancel message would still be a good tng. === Subject: Re: 49G+ New Keyboard > 800-474-6836 >>I too am fed up with the old keyboard. >>could you tell me what number you cled I'd like >>to get a replacement so. >>thanxs >>Merlyn Thank you very much. I tnk I'll cl HP tomorrow (I just had 2 teeth extracted ts afternoon, so I'll hold off 'till I get ts gauze out of my mouth before I use the telephone). === Subject: Re: 49G+ New Keyboard Dear Kirk ! So, What is your impression ? is the new keyboard more solid ? is it less noisy ? less missed keystorkes ? feel free to tell us. (: === Subject: Re: 49G+ New Keyboard Dear Paul ! As I understood from you there is no difference in the new keyboard from the old one is it ? same loud hollow click. same unregistering keys... ? === Subject: Re: 49G+ New Keyboard > As I understood from you there is no difference in the new keyboard > from the old one is it ? same loud hollow click. same unregistering > keys... ? : I don't have one of the new keyboards. My second unit (Ser. # CN333nnnnn) was received sever weeks ago, and has a loud (but reliable) keyboard -- not the latest new quiet keyboard we're now hearing about. Maybe I should have waited for a replacement? === Subject: Re: 49G+ New Keyboard Yes, indeed. When you get one with the newer keyboard, you will know it. There is no gray area where you won't be sure. My old model was loud, hollow, missed keypresses and rly felt cheap. My new model is firm, quiet, and wonderful. I am now very happy to recommend the 49g+ to others. HP has made the necessary significant improvement. Get the new one at l costs. It will restore your faith (though one might question why the earlier one was even released). How many customers did they lose over first impressions? Mitch The loc Fry's here in Southern Cifornia has l new models.... > As I understood from you there is no difference in the new keyboard > from the old one is it ? same loud hollow click. same unregistering > keys... ? > : > I don't have one of the new keyboards. My second unit (Ser. # > CN333nnnnn) was received sever weeks ago, and has a loud (but > reliable) keyboard -- not the latest new quiet keyboard we're now > hearing about. > Maybe I should have waited for a replacement? === Subject: Re: 49G+ New Keyboard I just got off the phone with HP Tech Support, and they are telling me there is no difference in the feel or sound of the new keyboard. They did say there was a new one, but that I wouldn't be able to tell the difference beeen the old and new except for less missed keystrokes. Has anyone received a new one that could elaborate? so, my 49G+ has the old ROM Version in it (1.20) and it is locking up repeatedly. When I mentioned it to HP support they wanted me to swap it with my vendor because I had owned it less than 30 days. I eventuly tked them into just sending me a new one. If I had waited for my vendor to get a replacement it would have taken more than a week, and there are no guarantees that I would have received a newer model with the necessary fixes ready in place. Whether or not I have to send in my old 49G+ remains to be seen. Tech Support said that if there were no instructions in the spment of the new HP49G+ for sending the old one in, then to just trash it as they no longer repair them. Hope ts helps someone. === Subject: Re: 49G+ New Keyboard That's what I first notice with the new keyboard so, not much, but just a bit, of a difference in the feel of the new keyboard. The keys are a little softer to press, so you can easily touch type with 1 finger on the table. But no missed keystrokes at l. I tnk the arrow keys feel the same in the new keyboard as the origin. for the tip about whether to send the old one in. I will keep the old one for a wle just in case. I got mine in 2 days, and I didn't have to send mine in first. I so had to get a replacement before for my dell axim and for my sandisk CF card. I had to wait a couple of weeks each for a replacement. HP is by far the quickest. Great service. so, you can just upgrade to ROM 1.23 if you had trouble with the older version. My new replacement came with 1.23 build 31. Dave > I just got off the phone with HP Tech Support, and they are telling me > there is no difference in the feel or sound of the new keyboard. They > did say there was a new one, but that I wouldn't be able to tell the > difference beeen the old and new except for less missed keystrokes. > Has anyone received a new one that could elaborate? so, my 49G+ has > the old ROM Version in it (1.20) and it is locking up repeatedly. > When I mentioned it to HP support they wanted me to swap it with my > vendor because I had owned it less than 30 days. I eventuly tked > them into just sending me a new one. If I had waited for my vendor to > get a replacement it would have taken more than a week, and there are > no guarantees that I would have received a newer model with the > necessary fixes ready in place. Whether or not I have to send in my > old 49G+ remains to be seen. Tech Support said that if there were no > instructions in the spment of the new HP49G+ for sending the old one > in, then to just trash it as they no longer repair them. Hope ts > helps someone. === Subject: Re: 49G+ New Keyboard In my opinion they are just trying to avoid too many replacements. I dont tnk that missed keypresses is sometng that is not important. In fact - it is more important then the noise issue. Last week I had a test, and I got wrong answer because my 0 key is sometimes not registering. so I had to type 0.005 and I aidently typed 0.05 because the 0 key didn't register. I am not here to cry about ts but thats an important issue. keyboard is the part that should be the most reliable in the device. If I cannot trust my keyboard whats the adventage of ulating 100*100 symbolic matrix.... The Hp49g+ is a great - Hp just have to do the finish and I am sure they thought about the loss of money due to the replacements. Lets for a moment tnk about ourselves and not about big Hp. === Subject: Re: 49G+ New Keyboard Paul said he got a replacement quite a wle ago. I dont' tnk the one Paul received had the new keyboard being referenced here, as it seems ts is a last week or o tng. Ts is another number that can be cled if people have concerns about their 49g+ ulatoI have been told. 1-800-HP-INVENT -- * These statements and opinions are mine one and do not reflect my employer's views. * > Dear Paul ! > As I understood from you there is no difference in the new keyboard > from the old one is it ? same loud hollow click. same unregistering > keys... ? > === Subject: Re: 49G+ New Keyboard > Paul said he got a replacement quite a wle ago. I dont' tnk the one > Paul received had the new keyboard being referenced here, as it seems ts > is a last week or o tng. > Ts is another number that can be cled if people have concerns about > their 49g+ ulatoI have been told. > 1-800-HP-INVENT > > -- > * These statements and opinions are mine one and do not reflect my > employer's views. * > Dear Paul ! As I understood from you there is no difference in the new keyboard > from the old one is it ? same loud hollow click. same unregistering > keys... ? Tngs to keep in mind when cling that number... In order to get the voice to recognize what you say, you have to say ulators 49g+ and then it works. so, it seems like they want some people to sent theirs in and others are lowed to keep them. I just tried it, and they're making me send mine in. I will, of course, still do it. Good luck! Gus === Subject: HP Datafile - help with translation from a Portguese speaker needed Dear l, I have received an email from a Brazilian company who offer replacement cases for the HP200LX. I don't speak Portuguese and their English is not good enough to rely explain what they are selling. I wonder if a Portuguese speaker would be good enough to contact them and translate into English for them? If so please contact me and I will pass on their email address. (I won't publish it here as an anti-spam measure.) The information that I have so far is: >Production plastic parts of PDA HP 200lx. >Seeing: KIT Pmtop HP 200LX = (01 Cabinet of the Display + 04 Screws >of the Cabinet + 01 Constraint of the Cabinet of the Display + 02 >Finisng of the 01 nges + Cover of Stack) Vue of KIT $38. > We manufacture Plasticas parts of PDA HP 200LX: > Cabinet of the Display. > Cover of Stack. > Finisng of the nge. > Constraint of the Cabinet of the Display. > Screws. >Since ready we are thankful for the chance, and we are to the whole >number to make use to clarify any doubts. >Grateful! >Marcos Azevedo >PLLUS INFORMçTICA LTDA >Street Visconde de Santa Isabel, 20/701-704 - Isabel Village - CEP: >20560-120 Rio de Janeiro - RIO DE JANEIRO - BRAZIL >Pabx: (55) (021) 2578-4218/2576-6218/3879-5586/3879-5583 There is apparently no web site. in advance. -- Bruce Horrocks Datafile Editor editor@hp.org www.hp.org === Subject: New Key board new I hear that Hp has come with a new keyboard in the hp49g+, I got a question if I order a ulator now from HP will i get the new keyboard?. What seri number should i look for? Do you tnk its a good idea to buy the HP49G+ now? Thank you for taking your time on awnsering my questions === Subject: Re: New Key board new > I hear that Hp has come with a new keyboard in the hp49g+, I got a > question if I order a ulator now from HP will i get the new > keyboard?. > What seri number should i look for? > Do you tnk its a good idea to buy the HP49G+ now? > Thank you for taking your time on awnsering my questions I tnk you should be able to get one with the new keyboard. Just to be sure, buy one from hp.org or samsoncables.com. Both their sites promise spping with the new keyboard. My replacement has a seri With the new keyboard, I've finly experienced no more missed keystrokes, wch is great, and no flickering screen. most perfect. Dave === Subject: Re: New Key board new l ! I want to join Tobias question. Last week I tked to the customer service in my country (not U.S) and they told me there will be no problem to replace my unit. If the replacement is done by Hp - What are the chances I will get a unit from the new series ? Has anyone ready experienced that ? or has some knoledge in the subject ? Thank you l. === Subject: Received Replacement 49G+ / HP49G+ Recommendation I bought my HP49G+ on January 20th, directly from the HP web site. Because of my previous experience with HP ulators (HP-12C, HP-15C, HP-16C, and HP-41CV), I did not feel the need to try before buy. Quite frankly, I was disappointed by the performance of the ulator keyboard, experiencing the problems noted in ts newsgroup. However, I was impressed with the ulator capabilities enough to hang in there, plus I rely want to support HP's continuing efforts to develop and market powerful RPN ulators. (I am an Electric Engineer.) Through ts newsgroup (comp.sys.hp48), I found that HP is now spping replacement HP49G+ ulators with improved keyboards. After cling HP Tech Support only o days ago, I received my replacement 49G+ today. (The replacement was spped from CA - I, too, live in CA.) Ts is easily the BESTcustomer service experience I have EVER had. No hassles, just told them the problems that I was having, and that KEYTIME fiddling and the wiggle fix isn't doing the trick. By the way, the tech support guy told me that the keyboard wasn't redesigned, but that the earlier production run keyboards were missing some important components, now addressed. My old 49G+ s/n is CN33402083, the replacement s/n is CN35202160. The difference in the keyboard sound/feel/performance is night and day . The new keyboard is dramaticly improved, much more like what I was originly expecting from HP. In summary: I NOW HAVE NO HESITATION IN RECOMMENDING THE HP49G+ TO ANYONE LOOKING FOR A NEW, POWERFUL, CACULATOR. I would so like to add that if it were not for comp.sys.hp48, I would not have known about the improved keyboard. MANY , guys! === Subject: Re: Received Replacement 49G+ / HP49G+ Recommendation What important keyboard components could have been left out ? > I bought my HP49G+ on January 20th, directly from the HP web site. > Because of my previous experience with HP ulators (HP-12C, HP-15C, > HP-16C, and HP-41CV), I did not feel the need to try before buy. > Quite frankly, I was disappointed by the performance of the ulator > keyboard, experiencing the problems noted in ts newsgroup. However, > I was impressed with the ulator capabilities enough to hang in > there, plus I rely want to support HP's continuing efforts to > develop and market powerful RPN ulators. (I am an Electric > Engineer.) > Through ts newsgroup (comp.sys.hp48), I found that HP is now > spping replacement HP49G+ ulators with improved keyboards. > After cling HP Tech Support only o days ago, I received my > replacement 49G+ today. (The replacement was spped from CA - I, > too, live in CA.) > Ts is easily the BESTcustomer service experience I have EVER had. No > hassles, just told them the problems that I was having, and that > KEYTIME fiddling and the wiggle fix isn't doing the trick. By the > way, the tech support guy told me that the keyboard wasn't > redesigned, but that the earlier production run keyboards were > missing some important components, now addressed. > My old 49G+ s/n is CN33402083, the replacement s/n is CN35202160. The > difference in the keyboard sound/feel/performance is night and day . > The new keyboard is dramaticly improved, much more like what I was > originly expecting from HP. > In summary: > I NOW HAVE NO HESITATION IN RECOMMENDING THE HP49G+ TO ANYONE LOOKING > FOR A NEW, POWERFUL, CACULATOR. > I would so like to add that if it were not for comp.sys.hp48, I > would not have known about the improved keyboard. MANY , guys! === Subject: Re: Received Replacement 49G+ / HP49G+ Recommendation > What important keyboard components could have been left out ? Yes good question. I'm wondering that too :) But I must admit, though I still have a HP49G+ with an old keyboard I tnk it's a luxurious experience to operate it. Even the smell of the macne gives it a certain elegance that I experience everytime I take the macne from the leather case. HP invent. Me too. But they do it better. === Subject: Re: Help with Soft Menu . Ts will be helpful! e >Unfortunately, no. >However, here's a way that's most as fast. To set it up (you only >need to do ts once, ever), put ts little program on the stack: ><< 1. GET ->STR CASD DROP >> >Then put 11.31 on the stack, then type ASN and press ENTER. Then >press the USER key until you see USR in the status area. The setup is >now finished. >it only takes five keystrokes (not counting the sfts): >{} (that's [right-sft][+]) >[softkey] (the one you need help for) >[ENTER] >[RS]+[F1] (that's [right-sft-and-hold][F1]) >[ENTER] >It usuly takes me more than 5 keystrokes to get to a desired HELP >screen, so the above isn't too bad. >Hope ts helps! > === Subject: Conn4x & USB rev 2.2.2348 - 1.2 now at HP site. It's available at: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DriverDownload.jsp?pnameOID =351776&loce=en_US&taskId=135&prodSeriesId=33568&prodTypeId=215348&swEnvOID =20 That's HP's business support center site. The HP Customer Care site doesn't have it yet; as far as I can tell, it usuly takes a few more days for new files to show up there. It's not obvious to me what the changes from build 2345 are, but I've downloaded and instled build 2348, and it's seems to work ok. The USB driver instlation is still a bit strange on my MS Windows 98SE system. I still get an Insert Disk box that says: The file 'HPx9G.cat' on USB Device Instlation Directory for HPx9G+ cannot be found. Setup could not find a file on the specified path. If the path appears below, make sure it is correct. Click OK to try copying again. Ok, I can't find it either, so I click on the skip ts file option, and it finishes. Conn4x works ok. -- === Subject: Re: Conn4x & USB rev 2.2.2348 - 1.2 now at HP site. > It's not obvious to me what the changes from build 2345 are, but I've > downloaded and instled build 2348, and it's seems to work ok. A mysterious force has informed me that these are the changes from 2345 to 2348! Fixed: EV needs to be off for multiple selects, no selects and left side view. RPL Command Window now disables/enables buttons instead of just beeping. Text files now use a faster, direct command and not a file if length < 300 characters. Added: Options: Window has been renamed File Options was Text File Options Options: New option added to use .hp file extensions or not. Open Diog Boxes will so select files based on ts option. The help file has been changed to match. Adjusted forms to handle 120 DPI displays in Screen Capture, RPNCommand Windows. Added F1 key for help in Screen Capture and RPNCommand > The USB driver instlation is still a bit strange on my MS Windows 98SE > system. I still get an Insert Disk box that says: There are so many differences with the instlation of these drivers. I ways plug in the , go to Device Manager and check that the driver version is correct. Current = 1.2.0.0. If it is not correct, click Change Driver and point the boxes to have disk and then C:Program FilesHewlett-PackardConn4xUSBDriver. Ts forces the right driver. You might have to do ts for any other USB ports you have used in the past as well! -- - - - - - - === Subject: Misbehavin' ComboField boundary=----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C3F7EC.89D7F540 --- charset=iso-8859-1 %%HP: T(1)A(R)F(.); !NO CODE !RPL :: * Why doesn't it works? * The combo field is misbehavin' * Any advise? * Label definitions: Pitch: 1 41 * Pitch field 'DROPFSE (Msg handler) 26 40 30 8 (Pos. & size) BINT2 (Fld type: choose) MINUSONE (Types, n/a here) BINT4 (Dp sm font) (Help text) Fixed font's Characters per inch { %7 %9 %11 } (Options) BINT4 (ChsDp,ignored) %11 DUP (Initi & reset) * Form parameters 1 1 (Lbls & flds) ' DROPFSE (Title) hp 990Cxi Printer Setup FPTR2 ^IfMain () ; @