A29 > When factoring, the calc has a tendency to factor out a -1. Is there a > way to stop this or a trick to multiple the -1 back into the equation. You may want to change the state of flag 114 (Disp 1+x -> x+1). You can also change it from [MODE][CAS][_Incr Pow] Not that this changes how polynomials/power series look, but also has another meaning: When using the 1+x form, expressions are taken to be positive near the origin. In the form x+1, expressions are taken to be positive near infinity. > I think I would like to try some different fonts on my 49. I'm more > interested in fonts that might help in a mathematics/electrical engineering > perspective. How many different ways exist to display a A on the HP49 using a Font 6. Knowing that it still must look like an A.. > Wouldn't it work just as well to use 1_atm in place of 760_mmHg > in these programs? It gives me larger roundoff errors, but this might vary slightly according to which units an individual user prefers; even though the actual "gauge zero" is hardly that accurate, as you say, this just looked bad (nothing that a little rounding won't fix, though :) > Another source that I have says that pre-1954 a standard > atmosphere was exactly 760 mmHg, slightly more than the current > standard atmosphere. I surmise that at that time the definition > of a torr was 1 mmHg. > Isn't it nice to have so many standards to choose from? >You were in Exact mode (creating 100th degree polynomials!); > re-enter (or re-edit) in Approximate mode (-105 SF), > which is the mode to use for *numerical* (rather than symbolic) > calculations. > > Solutions will be obtained almost instantly. > > But the TVM menu (80 MENU) is far easier to use, isn't it? > My hp49g is in approx. mode but still it refuses to give an answer within this lifetime. I think the TVM is great for NPV, IRR, PV and basic time-value series; it's not particularly useful on bonds convexities, durations etc. Could there be something wrong with my 49g? I'm currently using beta ROM 19-6, and I've always thought it (regardless of which rom i had installed) had some weird hiccups like "hanging" for a few seconds, and sometimes the screen lags a few seconds behind my input of numbers, it's a ID93xxxxxx btw. > > If you're scared of the PURGE which the CAS uses itself, > which I actually don't like either, because > it goes right ahead and deletes from a higher > directory if you have a variable there, > then go ahead and replace #8C27h SYSEVAL > with a UserRPL PURGE command anyway. I also thought about this. The problem (my problem) is that often I have programs that go up and down in different paths, and so it is hard to keep control over exactly what/where will be purged. But for programs that "stay" at one place, your method is worth its weight in gold. (What does it weigh? ;-) ) > With this modification, if you have a variable > in a higher directory which the CAS would purge > (and which XCASV would then transfer to your > current directory when it stores it back later, > which of course is still "ugly"), then you will > instead get an error (Name Conflict) and not execute > the CAS command at all, allowing you to re-think your > whole VAR structure to try to re-design it around the > logical faults of the 49G CAS+OS design. I wonder if there is a way to go around such faults. Is it possible at all? At the moment I spend more time discovering what these faults allow you to do. Use them as back doors so to say. > If you do all your work in the HOME directory, however, > then it will make no difference either way; we could > call this the "American Express" approach: Don't leave HOME! :) Thanks. But then, how do I use it? When I press VAR and then STARTEQW on the stack it shows the menu I made. But when I'm at the EQW , if I press STARTEQW it just writes STARTEQW on the screen, and if I press LSHIFT CUSTOM nothing happens. Is there a way to make it a softmenu instead of a CHOOSEBOX?? > > << "Title" {{"LAP" , LAP} ,{ "ILAP" , ILAP}} 1 CHOOSE IF THEN EVAL END >> > > and then store it in STARTEQW > Thanks. But then, how do I use it? When I press VAR and then STARTEQW on > the stack it shows the menu I made. But when I'm at the EQW , if I press > STARTEQW it just writes STARTEQW on the screen, and if I press LSHIFT CUSTOM > nothing happens. > I can't help you more: this works on my 48GX presing CST (as LS CUSTOM on 49G) > Is there a way to make it a softmenu instead of a CHOOSEBOX?? The program you store in STARTEQW will be run in EQW, presing CST on the 48... I have test this on a 49 emulator: << 2 * >> stored in STARTEQW. It works presing LS CUSTOM in EQW PS: Are you sure that you named STARTEQW well? (and not STARTEQV or something so...) ...and I've also tested the CHOOSE menu on my 49 emulator, and it works as I thougth... Now I see. You must have the expression selected in the EQW for the menu to appear. I f you don't, nothing happens, at least in my calc. Thabks a lot about that. About the other questio, do you know if its possible to make it a softmenu??? My flag is defined to softmenu and all the other menus that come with the calc are softmenu, but this one is a choose box. > > Thanks. But then, how do I use it? When I press VAR and then STARTEQW on > > the stack it shows the menu I made. But when I'm at the EQW , if I press > > STARTEQW it just writes STARTEQW on the screen, and if I press LSHIFT > CUSTOM > > nothing happens. > > > > I can't help you more: this works on my 48GX presing CST (as LS > CUSTOM on 49G) > > > > Is there a way to make it a softmenu instead of a CHOOSEBOX?? > > The program you store in STARTEQW will be run in EQW, presing > CST on the 48... > I have test this on a 49 emulator: << 2 * >> stored in > STARTEQW. It works presing LS CUSTOM in EQW > > > Regards > Raul > > PS: Are you sure that you named STARTEQW well? (and not STARTEQV or > something so...) In the EQW you must have selected something, like for example a variable, a sub-expression etc. Then you press LSHIFT CUSTOM and the popup menu with your commands appears. When you choose some command from this menu, it will be applied to the selected sub-expression. If no sub-expression is selected, then no menu appears. I've tried only in my 48GX this mornig: no time for the 49emu... It does not work IN the EQW. I get the softmenu when exiting. << {lap ilap ... ...} TMENU >> stored in STAREQW OK for the 48 and 49. I think about an other solution but I don't know if it's possible : If the calc have an IR port, I'm on a 48 or a 39. And of course, If I haven't IR port, I'm on a 40 or 49. As I can know if I'm on a 49, I can use the IR port to know if I'm on a 39 or a 40. But the problem is the following : How can I do to know if the calc have an IR port ? What happening if I program the IR port (with ram i/o) on a calc on which there isn't IR port ? > Well, for 48/49, it's easy, you just need to start by reading a part of the > calculator that change depending on the type of calculator. > Even if you use the SysRPL call GARBAGE at the beginning of your code. The first GARBAGE will not drop your ML code from memory, while if a garbage occurs inside your ML code, the code may be deleted and when returning from your memory allocation you will have nothing good left. So not only you have to call GARBAGE before your program, but you also have to make sure it won't be called DURING the program in ML. But lucky you, some bright people came with brilliant ideas on how you could allocate safely memory inside a ML program, I have in mind some code posted by Werner Huysegoms, pretty neat. I use it often Is the ERRTRAP only around the ML object or is there SysRPL in it too? I use dispatching myself if a ML object errors. I push a bint to the stack, but you can probably use the standard "error numbers" as well. Also you cannot use make$ because it will GC on its own without error, you need to use MAKERAM$ or CREATETEMP -- > I Would like to know how can i solve limit using a HP 49g. I'm not sure what you mean by limit, but if you're refering to L'Hopital, then you can do it like this: 2: EXPRESION 1: LIMIT (eg. x-> 0 is typed like x=0) Then just enter limit Well, it's easy. Enter the expression for which you want to find the limit. Enter a small equation of the form 'variable=limitValue'. For example if you want to find the limit of SIN(X)/X for X->0, you enter SIN(X)/X, then you enter X=0. Then press keys[LEFT SHIFT], [8], menu key [LIMIT], menu key [lim]. If you want the limit approaching from the right, you write X=0+0. The opposite is X=0-0. An HP49G cable would be VERY simple to make to go from the Think Outside "Stowaway" Keyboard (intended for PalmOS and some PocketPC machines).... all we would need is some sort of driver software, and we'd have a speedy-programming-on-the-go keyboard replacement! ;-) www.thinkoutside.com Is this sort of driver software possible? I think it'd be a fun project, as I have had an extra stowaway lying around for 6 months or so after i've upgraded from my old III series to a Clie. > Go to www.archive.org > And type in http://www.hpcalc.org o www.archive.org is actually periodically downloading the whole hpcalc site (in which case they are contributing to creating the over-use problem with Eric's original site), or o They have copied only the directories, and not the downloadable files themselves, which are in a database (this is the case with Google, which can display all the directories as of Jan 31, when they last "crawled" through hpcalc.org, but you can't get any of the actual files). I wrote an INT48pro labcad manual that can be found online at http://www.students.uwf.edu/jel3/int48pro-online.htm This manual is about 70 plus pages and is more detailed than the docs that come with INT48pro 1.53 beta. > Get the HP49 instead. Partial Fraction Expansion and Laplace Transform > commands are built in. If you need the calculator for Controls or Signal and > Systems courses, then you should also download Solvesys, Bode-Routhe and > Neopolys for the HP49 at www.hpcalc.org. The HP49 is still the best hand > held calculator on the market. You might have to purchase it directly from > HP and not at a local store. By the way, The before mentioned programs are > also available for the HP48G calculators as well. > > the HP49G will go GPL in 2003 (lots of 'future'). haven't you heard? > where does linux get its strenght? > I disagree. Where I've worked in the acoustics and noise engineering > field, I saw two types of calculators, HP and Casio. I can't speak for > why some chose the Casios, but my experience with HP calculators was > always been positive. http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002416/ttermp23.zip > I'm having trouble getting the HP comm program to work with with Win > XP pro. Before I waste any more time trying to do the impossible, can > == True!! BUT not until I include primes up to about 162755.. that's because there are roughly x/ln(x) primes less then x NOT ln(x). The table I'm using contains odd integers only, so it requires x/2 bits. If we use the 'difference table' we would need b*x/ln(x), where 'b' is the number of bits needed for storing the differences-between-successive-primes. For primes up to 10^6 we get b=6 (and I think it's the same in my case where the limit is 10^5). Let's find out when the DifferenceTable would be better. By solving b*x/ln(x) < x/2 we get (x>1, b>0) x > exp(2*b), and thus the number 162755 above (b=6) Also, remember that the value of b increases as we include more numbers, but it's less than 10 for up to 10^12, I think. I need to confirm this! but in any case the storage requirement, then, would be beyond the capacity of the HP49..some tens of Gigabytes :-) A relatively simple improvements could be that of removing multiples of 5 (half of them are already removed since they are even..). This would map every interval of 10 numbers to a single hexadecimal number (4bits for 1,3,7 and 9 -> 1 HexSymbol) and would speed up the process of moving through the table a little bit. ==== Here's how I would do it (which is one of several methods). I don't know which method you are referring to when you say you will not be able to do any IR activity extracting data from the 2nd part of the port1 but the following doesn't suffer from this problem. (although when using IR you will not be able to *write* to the flash ROM ) Basically, it works by using a *read* from the bankswitcher to signal that the mode is being changed. If the address read is even, flash writing is enabled and IR is disabled. If it is odd then the opposite is true. This is of course assuming that the OS never needs to read from the bankswitcher. ( and AFAIK it doesn't because bankswitching is performed via a write. If this is wrong please correct me. ) Otherwise there are other more obscure means such as manipulating the external Saturn bus. Here's an example circuit implementing this method although I've left out all the component specifics and any analog vagaries as I'm totally clueless in that area . ( Steve Sousa will have to help out :) Brace yourself for some horrendous ASCII schematics ;) : ( View with fixed width font ) NRES---------------------------+ | __O__(1) ______ | /CLR| NWE------------| | Q|----+ | & )----|> | | CE1------------|______/ | | | +--|D | | LED MA0----------------------+ |_____| | | | | (2) IRI----+ | | | +------------------------+----O| >----Vpp --- | | |/ / ----+ | | / MUX | | ------- | GND | | +-///------Vdd | | | | | | +----+-------------STS | LED | | | ----------------------------- | | (3) | | | | | Old HP48 IR recieve circuit | +-----| >----+ |_____________________________| |/ | | | | | ------------------------------ GND | | | | | Old HP48 IR transmit circuit |--------------------+ |______________________________| NRES : System wide reset signal. Active low. NWE : Signals the currently selected memory device to accept data for a write operation or provide data for a read operation depending on if it's LOW or HIGH respectively. CE1 : Bank switcher chip select. MA0 : Bit 0 of the memory address. IRI : IR input pin. LED : IR output pin. STS : STate machine Status pin of the Intel 28F160S5 chip. ( open drain output ) Vpp : Flash write power supply pin. Vdd : System power supply. GND : System ground. (1) Positive edge triggered D flip-flop with clear. (active low) (2)* Inverting buffer. (3)* Non-inverting buffer. * The buffers' Vcc pin is tied to to the LED pin. Note that I'm not sure STS is tied to IRI but it would make sense. ( Otherwise why would the 49 interrupt handler be reading it? ;) Again please correct me if I'm wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, we could have done that, except that the BS is a 6 D-Latch chip (standard TTL chip) and that this circuitry requieres an extra line. I guess if I was to redesign the hardware, it could be good to remove some of the flexibility we have with the first view of the rom (00000 to 40000) restricting it to only bank 0 and 1, and therefore liberating the 2nd D-Latch to allow programing of the ROM through the BS rather than through the IR led... bu too late:-( i try transere whole txt, but file cannot be larger then 240KB( equ free space in Home) and loading this txt file(100~200kB) takes about few minutes!!and viever have not bookmark :-(( thank all for advice.. ==== You were in Exact mode (creating 100th degree polynomials!); re-enter (or re-edit) in Approximate mode (-105 SF), which is the mode to use for *numerical* (rather than symbolic) calculations. Solutions will be obtained almost instantly. But the TVM menu (80 MENU) is far easier to use, isn't it? Is there a way to use a custom made menu in the EQW?? I made one following the instructions at HP manual for the CST reserved variable but when I open the EQW its not accessible. If it can't be done with the CST, is there another way?? ==== Sorry, I didn't get it. Am I supposed to do like this (this is the format for the CST variable): {{LAP , LAP} ,{ ILAP , ILAP}} STARTEQW STO ???? Because with CST its just like this, just chande STARTEQW with CST. I did this and it didn't work. ==== Sorry... The CST format is almost valid... but you must write a program: << Title {{LAP , LAP} ,{ ILAP , ILAP}} 1 CHOOSE IF THEN EVAL END >> and then store it in STARTEQW ====, Well, for 48/49, it's easy, you just need to start by reading a part of the calculator that change depending on the type of calculator. For example, you can know you are on a 48/38 by reading at address #0 and checking if the first byte is #32 (GX/SX) or not. the, you can know if you are on a SX or GX by reading in #80000 and checking if you have #A5C3F on the 38/39/40, it's different, the programm need to be packaged differently. You will have to have at least 2 versions (1 for 38, one for 39/40) ==== Roughly, i want to code a program that would run as well on HP39, 40, 48 and 49. The binary, written in asm would be the same for every calculator However, i wish the program could know on what calc it is run. Therefor, i m looking for a way to guess on what calc it runs, but this check must be completely independent from the ROM or the RAM. Only the RAM i/O could be used. ==== http://www.init.se/~jonas/link.html GNU Emacs Calc - HP28 Emulator GNU Emacs Calc - 2.02 Manual ********************************************************************* First to answer the above question. The idea behind my program is to store data for a particular jobs in lots of subdirectories. The name of the current directory that is being used is stored in a library data variable. To display this name on the screen, to alert the user to which job he/she is in (which would be encoded in hex) I create a temporary string in RAM, copy over the data, then use this string with MINI_DISP. Once the info has been displayed the string is no longer required. I actually, found why the error was occuring. Like the old saying goes: OPERATOR ERROR. I was using an old Library data variable on the calculator. It was not aligned with the new program so it was reading all the wrong nibs. Pretty stupid, really. Thanks for your help anyway. I am now looking at want happens if the program does a GC at =make$. I think every thing should be OK. As I re read the address of the Library on the stack. I knew it was a good idea to leave it there. ==== When a GC happens when a ML program is running in TEMPOB the calc *will* crash. The program itself will be moved so the return address will be incorrect. You could store the program in a directory or port 0. but if you run it from port 2 or 1 it will crash. you can take a look at my HP49 Assembly Language Examples tutorial ex8.2 for a solution for this problem ==== I have a new algorithm for the GC that I've always wanted to put in place. Not only it will be faster than the current one (especially fixing the very slow case of embedded object in list) but it will allow to fix error as you mentionned. === I have looked through your example 8.2, however I call =make$ half way through a program that I have already wrap the ERRSET :: ERRTRAP around. Is it still acceptable to drop to sysRPL to a GARBAGE collection then continue with ML? If there is insufficent memory then they cannot run the program anyway. ====.... http://www.hpcalc.org/ I just bought a HP49G. I'm reading through this newsgroup when I find mostly links to hpcalc.org. Now since this site is down, is there a mirror somewhere? ==== Some people already contributed by uploading their programs and I am sure that they don't mind if Eric includes them in a CD again, which many users would order if ... there are some incentives to buy it, such as making the Get it programs available only through theses CDs ... ==== Eric and I are already working on a solution hosted by the TU-Delft, so expect HP Calc to be online quite soon! ==== www.archive.org And type in http://www.hpcalc.org ==== Everything you need, the existing HP code should be easy to port and the thing can run @ 2700 MIPS. See also http://www.ultratechnology.com/chips.htm ==== You don't consider for example 2057 MENU to be a key sequence? ==== Avenger wrote: I'd rather not speculate on that :-) The TI-89 and HP49G are equivalent. As long as you use the latest (beta) ROM, you should be ok. http://www.epita.fr/~avenar_j/hp/49.html Not really... -- Bhuvanesh X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 ==== Avenger wrote in message news:3ca3e594_2@newsa.ev1.net... I'm a EE major whose has had a TI89 since they first came available. I now own two 49's I lik my 49 so I bought a second one... I love RPN and using the stack. Now that I'm getting better at working with the stack, I experiment a lot more when working with problems. RAM I'm using the latest beta rom and have had no problems The batteries from my 89 now run my second 49. :) With the TI calcs I always changed batteries at the start of each semester, just to be on the safe side. With the 49, I go through two sets of batteries a semester. danny ==== Jean-Yves Avenard wrote: That's great! Did HP actually agree to this or was it just your idea? 1. Is there a way of triggering the others by the use of a code word like the Tetris example? 2. Is there any way to trigger them on the 39G? Perhaps using a SYSEVAL command? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ==== On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 11:21:32 +0100, Thomas Rast wrote: Actually, the 286 has a full blown MMU with memory protection - segmented protected mode . The 386 MMU is fully backward compatible with that of the 286. There are fundamental differences between the 386 and 286 MMU's though. Present in the 386 but absent in the 286 are paging, individual IO port protection via the IO permission bit map (the 286 only has all or nothing protection via the IOPL flag), and virtual 8086 mode. Also, the 286 has a 16-bit architecture and only supports segment offsets/sizes up to 64 KB and segment base addresses up to 16 MB giving it a 16 MB physical addressing capability. This is in contrast to the 386 which supports up to 4 GB segment sizes and the same for base addresses. The real reason , I think, that Linux can't run on the 286 as it is, is because of the lack of paging and the 286's lack of support for native 32-bit offsets and data. There are some projects that are attempting to port subsets of the Linux kernel to the 286 though, see http://elks.sourceforge.net/ . Now, about the Saturn, unfortunately it lacks support for an even more fundamental feature. Namely this is the basic ability to virtualize addresses whereby the hardware can map (on-the-fly) the logical addresses used by a program to different physical addresses. Even the lowly 8086 has this capability - the offsets are the logical addresses and the segment registers determine how they map to physical ones. ( physical = 16*segment + offset ) Without this capability memory management becomes difficult because if a program's code/data needs to be moved in order to free up memory space all of its addresses would become invalidated. This also makes it impossible to support the fundamental fork() Unix system call without which any form of Unix that I know of cannot function. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Jonathan Busby - Remove the random permutation of NOSPAM from my e-mail address before replying. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ==== Hello, thanks for the link. So maybe at some time I could start a mini-'Linux' on my HP-200LX... Regards, Raymond ==== Pied Luxi Fere <[ptitpieds]@[hotmail.com] Remove Brackets> > escreveu na mensagem ... If you had an GX, used MetaKernel. But a G+... I.D.K a kernel, but i know an UI(user interface), Windows-like, called HP'98. Uses +/- 25 KB Ram. Good program. ==== Deja Vuuu escreveu na mensagem ... Using it for finance? Try an 12C. ==== Deja Vuuu escreveu na mensagem ... Bonds?hpcalc.org had a program that deal with bonds. ==== HPhreacker 2002(?) wrote in message news:... The HP49G will do it all and then some. Thanks for the tip! I prefer to use the mathematical expressions over an application. Exotic bonds, options or futures etc. are better understood and remembered as an expression then a special case of a given derivative. While I'm at it; where is the unreleased ROM I've been reading about? Furthermore who are releasing the new super calc of the world and when? Are anyone else having the same problem with time series (describable above) as my hp49g and John H Meyers' 49g emulator, Regards Deja Vuuu ==== Estoy completamente de acuerdo contigo Raúl. En Argentina y en el resto de Sud América en gral. pasó lo mismo con las lenguas aborígenes. Saludos desde Argentina, Carlos I completly agree with you Raúl!..... In Argentina (and south america in general happened the same thing with the language of the native people of this part of the world. Regards from Argentina, Carlos R Lion wrote in message news:... ==== Hello I am interested about the following goods. The people with some information should teach. Company name: Cynox Brand name : HPSpeed1 HP - Double SpeedUpMAX Module for an new Calculator HPSpeed2 HP - SpeedUpMAXModul incl. installation at our workshop Thanks -- Shigeru Yamaguchi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ==== Hi, have you tried www.cynox.de ? Regards, Raymond Shigeru Yamaguchi schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:20020329212154.7664.FAKEMAIL@hihihi.com... NNTP-Posting-Host: cable53a069.usuarios.retecal.es Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ==== I'd look for the information in this group, (Google searching): you'll find several threads about it. Raul Shigeru Yamaguchi escribió en el mensaje news:20020329212154.7664.FAKEMAIL@hihihi.com... ==== I've found a bug on all HP'S(SX,GX,49G): 1. Create a complex directory with many progs. 2. Recall its name to stack and type PGDIR. 3. Try to press ATTN: your calculator is crashed. 4. Press ON+C, notinhg. 5. Press RESET button, TTRM. Why? Is it an infinite loop? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017449998 208.145.205.253 (29 Mar 2002 18:59:58 -0600) Lines: 37 ==== HPhreacker 2002 wrote: Remarkable new discovery! The only such other (and very minor) bug I can recall as being present in all of these is a wrong size doing BYTES with a ROM object as argument (previously reported here and on hpcalc.org) In my emulated GX(R), I copied all 367 of my HOME variables (mostly directories and programs, some directories containing further subdirectories) into another directory, then I did PGDIR in HOME on the name of that one directory, which successfully purged that very bloated directory, then I pressed ON and did other stuff, but no such hang ensued (nor any other problem). Then I did the same for 49G (1.19-6), with similar lack of any problem. Am I just lucky that I didn't encounter this previously unknown bug? Could you give precise, reproducible details on how to cause it? [r->] [OFF] -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017450933 208.145.205.253 (29 Mar 2002 19:15:33 -0600) Lines: 23 ==== I wrote: Mis-stated; I meant doing BYTES [VARSIZE] on the name of a variable in which a pointer to a ROM object was stored, which actually stores a ROMPTR object instead, but BYTES [VARSIZE] changes the ROMPTR back into the original object, rather than counting only the fixed size of the stored ROMPTR object itself (no wonder that bug was hard to notice :) Beware of using any word named SAFE... in SysRPL: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3C844D01.95377C76%40miu.edu [r->] [OFF] -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- ==== I have an dir(+/- 90 KB) that: * if i try « VARS SORT ORDER » it crashes and does TTRM. * when no TTRM: i type: 'A' CRDIR go to A and: (this is an LCD): _______________________________________________ | | |RAD | |{... úUùuàáà.ØØØ A} | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |EXTER EXTER EXTER EXTER EXTER EXTER | | | HOME causes TTRM, UPDIR too. Even using PCT ORDER crashes! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017446747 208.145.205.253 (29 Mar 2002 18:05:47 -0600) Lines: 44 ==== HPhreacker 2002 wrote: [re HP48GX?] Some program or library may have corrupted the memory in which user variables are stored, or may have stored a corrupted object into memory; the calculator operating system itself does not cause this. Do a warmstart (ON+C) immediately after any suspect activity (although it might be too late). Make sure that you are using a good version of PCT (or avoid using it), don't combine variable hiders with PCT (because PCT then locates the hidden directory incorrectly), and avoid other programs, games and libraries whose effects might be uncertain. Variables with grossly corrupt content are discarded by ON+A+F [TTRM] -> Yes; however, you could possibly lose lots more variables as well, and other bad internal contents of some programs and libraries may still remain. In the worst case, you may need to wipe out everything in your calc and re-install only known good programs and libraries (perhaps one at a time, to isolate bad ones). If you have been writing your own SysRPL/ML, that might also be a source of either immediate or delayed problems of this sort, which are more easily recovered from on an emulator. Good luck! [r->] [OFF] -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- ==== If you are in the market for an HP 17BII calculator that is in excellent condition, please consider: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1341687981 The auction is running until about 2:15 pm ET on Sunday, March 31st. Thanks! ---Steve stevecordell@hotmail.com ==== Hello fellow users I have a clam-shell HP19BII business consultant. I know that the hardware is similar if not identical to the HP28 series. Is there a way I can input code for ROM entries to execute or feed it with hex code and produce small executable objects? Are there any undocumented system calls because, for sure, there is none documented! A table with the ROM entries would help along with answers to the above. Any comment would be appreciated. I thank you before hand. !Demeter! ==== James Horn escreveu na mensagem <3c8d0cb6@news.svn.net>... I've got the rom on MicroCode, not a physical 41! ==== R. G. Newbury escreveu na mensagem ... Any I've ported some from the 12C and 25C. Worked fine. ==== The connectivity software was not written by HP. See http://www.hpcomm.org Hernan Morales wrote: ==== Colin Croft wrote: > See http://www.hpcomm.org Actually I just tried this site and got diverted to some site called Netster. Anyone know what happened to James Bergamin's site? ==== Hello, model. Maybe a stupid question, but I am not really up to date with Star Treck who is this commander Janeway, and how does he relates with 'My beloved CEO'*? Regards, Cyrille *our email might be monitored... ==== Simply: add the bigger proggies to CD(like HP48 manual) and remove them from site(*they* cause big transfers). Remove the images and stop screenshots. Limit the uploads to 10/user(ip address[better]/e-mail[not good, user may use a fake e-mail]). Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ==== Hello, Cyrille de Brébisson schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:a825bm$h7b$1@web1.cup.hp.com... Captain Janeway and her crew are on their voyage home with their starship Vojayer. At least in Germany the series is called 'Vojager'. Regards, Raymond ==== hi Nk, welcome to the jungle ;) yeap you are right, i guess it is a littlke confusing for me (studing math) i just got me a book from the library about this subject since i am trying to learn (he he, somebody tickled my throat). the author is a guy named Bertrand Russell (i assume that he knows a little since he wrote the book). he talks about progressions, and he says that they not be composed of numbers. the books says: they may be composed of points in space, or moments of time, or any other term of which there is an infinite supply. i am very confused now with this. he starts talking about infinity, but according to this website: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ , infinity is: It is an unbounded number greater than any given real number the definition only applies to numbers. i am confused because there is a *loud* guy who represents all the universities and who corrected me in a previous post. he said: In mathematics you define objects, axioms, operations, and you prove theorems based on this. The definition SPECIFIES what a mathematical concept is. The concept is, in fact, the definition. i don't see any 'points' or 'moments of time' on the definition from wolfram's site and according with the parrograph above the definition does not apply to points or anything else. i am about to return the book and complain to the school about the quality of books they bring in. hope someone can help me. regards nk@imos-consulting.com (Nick Karagiaouroglou) wrote in message news:... ==== Hello, Nick Karagiaouroglou escribió en el mensaje news:cd9ca36b.0203280951.5841083f@posting.google.com... There are at least two libraries for that on hpcalc.org. Like it's down I can only refer to my own modification (Fields lib) at my web page. Hope this helps Luis. --------------------------------------- Luis Morales Boisset email: lboisset at arrakis.es http://www.arrakis.es/~lboisset ==== Hello!! I've just finished the new Filer48 version (The HP48 File Manager), a couple of bugs have been fixed and now it's available in 4 different flavors! At the moment due to hpcalc is down, you can send me and email and I'll gladly reply to you with the Filer48 package :) Regards, Raul. ==== How to port? TI-Basic is easy to think in User RPL, but ASM... ==== Jeremy escreveu na mensagem <1aea5734.0203191758.29dfab3f@posting.google.com>... going Very good software! ==== Perrone escreveu na mensagem <8c7d6b0f.0203121902.780bc091@posting.google.com>... And... Are you from Brazil? ==== Nick Karagiaouroglou escreveu na mensagem ... news:<8c7d6b0f.0203121902.780bc091@posting.google.com>... For me: x(x+1)=x*(x+1). ==== R Lion escreveu na mensagem ... You're not the unique. I do use Erable, ALG48(Erable has some parts from it! Trust me!), used ALGB on a HP48G32K, the LIB789 for HP49(some nice commands) ==== You're I've installed 1.19-6 in Emu48. Even Emu48 works faster(why? w/ rom 1.18 it was laggy for Load object...) I have *nothing* against Windows/Microsoft/IE. Imagine if we had only linux servers: no Server is busy Win2000 messages :D. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 ==== J.C. Randerson wrote in message news:5ba17a08.0203270834.32ff245d@posting.google.com... TI is an $8~12 billion(net revenues) semi-conductor company and the world leader in DSP's and analog solutions that also makes calculators. It did not get there by being second rate. regards, danny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ==== I have always been confused by the vicious brand loyalty concerning a calculator. I thought that was limited to cigarettes... On either the HP or the TI what happens when you take the TAN of 135 degrees and then take the inverse TAN of -1? They are simply tools. I apologize in advance for opening yet another can of worms. Cheers, Mike ==== Raul Lion escreveu na mensagem ... news:... a I had an HP15. Made some programs for it and it works as an HP-12C. NNTP-Posting-Host: cable53a069.usuarios.retecal.es Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ==== puke escribió en el mensaje news:3CA4B521.E4F57609@mb.sympatico.ca... I don't see the can of worns. 135 TAN is -1 ¿Isn't it? -1 ATAN is -45 . And this is right. This is the first angle wich TAN is -1. (Lower absolute value=nearest angle's origin, at 3 o'clock) Nothing wrong Raul Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ==== R Lion wrote: That is my point. mike X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-GC-Trace: gv1-hGHOOJET6Pypzjqw3NIyM1eatZqgD0ZRT8b Message-ID: <%05p8.24950$VJ1.2268846@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com> NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:29:31 CST ==== Jean-Denis wrote in message are Red wine. There is a prooven positive influence of the red wine on the reduction of bad cholesterol. :-) US population consumes significantly less red wine per person. On the other hand Finnish population has for unknown reasons relatively high cardio-vasculary accidents, one of the highest in the western world but they for sure do not drink much of the red wine either :-) any same Of ocurse, there is. American farming strenghth uses methods that are without the proof called unhealthy and has blocked access to the market. Why don't EU goverments for example mark that food clearly AMERICAN and let the customer choose ? You and I both know, that such attempt woul end up with more burned MacDonalds in the French countryside :-) By the way, exactly why French farmers are burining MacDonalds, who use local meat for their hamburgers ? ;-) That must have been about 10 years ago :-) explain piano: Nice try. You haven't noticed, that www.pianodepot.com offers this exact piano cheaper in USA than in Europe which is exactly my point. I don't care what company is selling the product. I did not said that it must be an American company selling the product in USA or in EU. I said, that particular electronic product is in most cases significantly cheaper in USA, than it is in Europe. In case of your piano it is about $700 USD difference for the same retailer. I wonder, how you can explain this discrepancy if not by hidden or official duty feees or other means to market protection. small I don't consider 180 EUR to 140 USD a small difference. retailers, charges How do you know ? Why it is that for every electronic product same company struggles to lower the price in US and overcharges EU ? Are you bunch of people, that cannot start their own business competing with those retailers that overcharge you, or is it rater some eternal measure, that prevents retailers to give you better price ? How is it, that www.pianodepot.com without any competition that you could find in US is still giving US customer much better deal than it does for their own citizens despite what you claim, this product has stronger price pressure in Europe, than presumably exist in US ? Jack ==== Raul Lion escreveu na mensagem ... news:... a Yes, you're right. Programming=customizing. NNTP-Posting-Host: cable53a069.usuarios.retecal.es Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ==== HPhreacker 2002(®) escribió en el mensaje news:a82pjf$p8mre$1@ID-88878.news.dfncis.de... Now I'm who say Yes, you're right. Customizing is the great power of the 48/49. Raul ==== be sure to see http://www.anti-matrix.net Karl Marx and Frederick Engels wrote the following in their Communist Manifesto: These measures will of course be different in different countries. Nevertheless, in the most advanced countries the following will be pretty generally applicable: 1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. This one is fairly self-explanatory. Marx also stated: You are horrified at our intending to do away with your private property. Precisely so, that is just what we intend. 2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. This is merely a method of taking property away from the well off in order to redistribute it to the working class. This plank lays the groundwork for Marx's statement: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. This is Robin Hood at work. Government now becomes the distributor of wealth. It takes from those who produce and gives it to those who don't. 3. Abolition of all right of inheritance. This is an extension of the first two planks. After the government takes away your land, taxes your production, and gives you only what you need, it takes away everything else when you die so that nothing can be passed on to future generations. 4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. This is the institution of the old saying: You can't take it with you. If you want to leave the Communist state, you have to leave your property behind. That's a polite way of saying that your property will be confiscated. Those that don't like this or any other aspect of the government and complain are obviously rebels, as evidenced by their opposition to the government, and this also gives the government the right to confiscate their property. You can't win for losing. 5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. This is important as it gives the Communist government the sole power to cause inflation. This is used today to further reduce the property rights of those who keep their property in the form of cash. 6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state. By controlling communication and restricting the people's right to speak out against the state (be careful, you may be considered a rebel and your property could be confiscated), and by controlling transport, whether personal or commercial, we now have to think about changing the spelling of citizen to s-l-a-v-e. 7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. The shackles are now being cinched tighter. Not only does this government control your ability to communicate and travel, it takes a giant step into your life by assuming ownership of all capital goods and by telling you what you will grow on the land. 8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. In addition to all capital goods, the State now claims ownership of YOU! You now become part of an industrial army that your commander could move to whatever part of the country the State felt required your labor, especially for agriculture. 9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of population over the country. I guess you thought you had pretty much lost all your rights by now, but there is at least one more freedom that can be taken from you: the freedom to live where you choose. Some have speculated that Marx saw the growth of the labor union as the vehicle to combine agriculture with manufacturing industries. 10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production...etc. This may sound innocuous on the surface, but let's look deeper. It is presumed that Marx would not have allowed private schools, where parents could decide what their children learned. If the only school was the State, then it could teach the children whatever it wanted. This would be used to establish societal values that the State saw as being harmonious with their plan of government. Some say that Marx wanted to completely do away with the family unit itself, since the state had assumed the role not only of the educator of children, but also the parent. These ten planks were written in 1848. Let's see how far these planks have progressed in American society since then. 1. Abolition of private property in land. The U.S. government now owns 33.5% of the land in the U.S. This is in direct contradiction to the U.S. Constitution. The Constitution, in Article I, grants Congress the power To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever over such district (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, be cession of particular States and the Acceptance of Congress, become the seat of government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the Legislature of the State in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other useful buildings. This means that any land that the government owns over and above Washington, D.C., Guam, Puerto Rico, etc., and all military installations is owned in direct violation of the Constitution. The government now owns just over one third of the land in the U.S. Want to guess whether it's increasing or decreasing? Just because the government doesn't own a particular piece of land doesn't mean that they have no control over it. Who establishes land use regulations, various bureaucratic decrees, zoning laws, property taxes, rent controls, etc.? The government may not own all the land, but they can sure control all of it. Consider one of the characteristics of Fascism: control of the means of production. Would you like to own a car if someone else can tell you when you can and cannot drive it - or where you can drive it? Or that you had to pay so much a mile for every mile driven? In 1972, the Democratic Party in Oregon passed the following platform plank at the annual state convention: Land is a common resource and should be held in public ownership. The Communists are definitely getting closer. 2. Progressive or graduated income tax: Congress passed a graduated income tax in 1913. Much maneuvering had been done up to that time to get such a tax adopted. There were several failures before it finally stuck in 1913. 3. The Inheritance Tax: Congress gave us the gift of the Inheritance Tax in 1916. 4. The confiscation of the property of emigrants and rebels: Congress, in 1980, passed H.R. 5691, making it a crime to transport or attempt to transport monetary instruments totalling $5000 or more into or out of the country without filing certain required reports with the government. 5. Centralization of credit; a national bank: The Federal Reserve was established in 1913 - the same year an income tax was imposed. 6. Centralization of communication and transport: In 1916, the Federal Trade Commission was created. In 1934, the Federal Communications Commission was created. 7. Factors of production owned by the state: How about the federally owned Amtrak railway system? Other examples only approach Fascism (government control of the means of production), such as the loan in 1980 from the federal government to Chrysler. There are also countless government bureaus issuing edicts to private businesses for them to carry out. 8. Equal liability to labor: There has not been much progress in this area as yet. The government has, however, become the employer of last resort. This is seen in programs such as the Civilian Conservation Corps, the Comprehensive Employment and Training Act, the military draft, and others. There also exists a proposal called the Universal Military Service, which allows for everyone of military age to be obligated to serve their country in some capacity. 9. Forced distribution of the population: Not much has been done in this area, either. What has been done has been called Urban Renewal. Under the name of Urban Renewal, the government forces people out of the low rent areas for the purpose of renewing urban decay. Very few of the people who were forced out ever return when the renewal has been completed. 10. Free education in schools: Lacking any constitutional grounds to base it on, Congress decided in 1957 to fund certain colleges and universities. More advancement was made on this plank in 1980, when the Department of Education was established as a separate governmental department. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-GC-Trace: gv1-gZeKUvHN0fgllDxVcJoPv2vNTbwJ3TFSSLZ Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:54:39 CST ==== Raymond Hellstern wrote in message news:a805m0$32l$02$1@news.t-online.com... Of course, they did. They were the closest nation to the ideal :-) Nobody else went that far, so in fact you don't know what the real communism is :-) I don't know who Dylan Stewart is, but judging by the name and his he must be an AngloSaxon, so in fact he never lived under communism so he has no idea what he is talking about. Of course, I haven't heard of Mr. Steward to build succesfull communism anywhere else outside of Russia. Talking is cheap. Lenin at least did his best. socialists? And who told you I was just visiting ? Why you tend to make up opinions (completely wrong by the way) about somebody ? Did you ever noticed, that my English is a second language ? Really ? And what exactly is so different ? Maybe. I did not said, that there are no conservative parties in Europe. The problem is, that they are rarely leading. Recall the cry of the left when such conservative parties actually won in Austria or recently Italy. I dont' know. I'm not familiar with 'Republikaner' party. ==== Anybody can send me an example of trapping errs with IFERR, for an program. I can't get it working. NNTP-Posting-Host: cable53a069.usuarios.retecal.es Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ==== The next prg, try to NEG something. If it fails, try negate it again, but with neg from Erable << IFERR NEG THEN neg END >> Raul HPhreacker 2002(®) escribió en el mensaje news:a82dfq$p92f4$11@ID-88878.news.dfncis.de... program. ==== In article , Chungil Choi wrote: Look in the index of the manual for serial cable and it'll tell you to look at page 27-7 for more information. Turn to page 27-7 and you'll find a pinout for the cable. -- john R. Latala jrlatala@golden.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 ==== http://www.saltire.com/xpander.html benoit wrote in message news:3ca30e3e$0$9643$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-01.noos.net... ==== Henry Gernhardt/Andrea Winship escreveu na mensagem <3C8A218D.AF387C59@earthlink.net>... Add an optional IR module, attachable to USB port. Add parallel port support:printer, scanner. Add a serial module:modem, mouse, etc... 16-color games that can be made in System RPL(not ASM) or User RPL(!!) would be nice. UI in grayscale. Stop with the flashing while playing grayscale games. Rewrite User RPL to allow all commands of SysRPL. No. Make one with 256 colors, other with 16 colors. Add CD drive support:load hpcalc.org CD;built-in disk drive:load Goodies Disks without botherin' with I/O. Add Stat48Pro, Int48Pro, etc... HP48GX+Alg48+Erable 3.2+Stat48Pro+Int48Pro+QPI+...+a 2 MB card=49G+. Should have 128 MB RAM, 20 GB disk drive, Windows(!!) support(that's to run Emu48 and V41 :] ) It should be able to be used as a PC. Just connect it to a screen, keyb, mouse, speakers, ==== Hello all, I have implemented (rebuild the alg48code for zsqrt) the precise Zsqrt function for Hp49, but now I need a command for transforming a ZINT (internally the ZINT is equal to the stack for, eg: 123456789 can be represented as 041620000F0123456789...) to a ZINT in it's hex form... (internally the 123456789 is expressed as HEX). If anyone has implemented this function, please send it to me. Ps. The ROM doesn't contain this command. PsII. Sorry for the bad english. DanieL ==== Even the Ti92+ can't solve this... DanieL. ckbrown123@yahoo.com (Quandary) wrote in message news:... ==== i get this in maple: -(-(1+cos(x)^2)*(-1+cos(x)^2))^(1/2)*(1-cos(x)^2)^(1/2)*EllipticE(cos(x),I)/ (-cos(x)^4+1)^(1/2)/sin(x) after simplifying i get: -(1-cos(x)^2)^(1/2)*EllipticE(cos(x),I)/sin(x) that is a tough cookie to chew :) ckbrown123@yahoo.com (Quandary) wrote in message news:... ==== ckbrown123@yahoo.com (Quandary) wrote: No, it's not a flaw. The result requires a special function (an elliptic function, actually) to be expressed, and these calculators do not support symbolic integration in terms of special functions. -- Bhuvanesh X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 ==== The integral sqrt(1+cos(X)^2) is not able to be integrated even by advanced software package such as Mathematica or Maple. Thus I conclude that there is no simple solution. Quandary wrote in message news:eb55eb37.0203300007.6ab52a85@posting.google.com... ==== Maple is a good one... The mathcad 2001 returns the same input value... DanieL. lalu_bhatt@yahoo.com (Bhuvanesh) wrote in message news:<662e00ed.0203300956.247c1c9a@posting.google.com>... X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 ==== And Mathematica is another. Which is best is religion, and in my eyes depend on application. Mathcad is a toy, compared with the two others, but is good if your math is straight and you need a good looking document. Regards Steen References: <388c0aa.0203260137.514c904c@posting.google.com> <639cb51.0203260535.604d1d6d@posting.google.com> <639cb51.0203270110.350db4ba@posting.google.com> <639cb51.0203290600.6eeb2f55@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017467401 208.145.205.253 (29 Mar 2002 23:50:01 -0600) Lines: 79 ==== Just read: So it's not real, then! As usual, confusion abounds when terminology is just thrown around, without quite having a meaning, only sounding as if it does, but then slipping away like the Cheshire cat, leaving only a smile. I have no idea what Wolfram takes number to mean, then, but in my own head (not necessarily agreeing with anyone else), I used to consider numbers to mean whatever class of things (loose terminology again :) satisfies the axioms of arithmetic (e.g. if a+b=a+c then b=c), which infinity (as 'a') doesn't. Perhaps it's parallel to that IEEE definition, which defines a *specific* value to be returned by a floating-point *arithmetic* unit to mean not a number (NaN), but still within the domain of a collection of 64 bits (or whatever the register size), so that it appears to be a *number* that is *not* a number! Russell never nailed it all down, either, and some math folks say that his PM is considered, well, *not* considered, any more. But I heard a story about Russell, which is that at some gathering, someone said to him that (s)he'd never before met anyone who had written a book, to which Russell replied that he'd got to the same age before he'd ever met anyone who hadn't! Mathematics possesses not only truth, but supreme beauty -- a beauty cold and austere, like that of sculpture, without appeal to any part of our weaker nature... sublimely pure, and capable of a stern perfection such as only the greatest art can show. - Bertrand Russell (1872-1970) A mathematician, like a painter or a poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas. The mathematician's patterns, like the painter's or the poet's, must be beautiful; the ideas, like the colours or the words, must fit together in a harmonious way. Beauty is the first test: there is no permanent place in the world for ugly mathematics. - G. H. Hardy (A Mathematician's Apology) There was a young lady from Niger who smiled as she rode on a tiger; they returned from the ride with the lady inside and the smile on the face of the tiger! http://www-white.media.mit.edu/~cchao/JavaCode/cat.gif http://www.pku.edu.cn/study/libra/story06.htm http://home.earthlink.net/~lfdean/carroll/nursery/chapter09.html [and Dodgson/Carroll, of course, was a mathematician, too!] http://www.lewiscarroll.org/logic.html In 1876, Lewis Carroll proposed a voting system in which the winner is the candidate who with the fewest changes in voters' preferences beats all other candidates in pairwise majority-rule elections http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/hemaspaandra97exact.html I don't think Bush would have won ;-) [r->] [OFF] -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- ==== In an Exel spreadsheet chart, when you add a trendline to a batch of data points, you have the choice of forcing the trendline to go through the origin (0,0). This is pretty common practice during the Physics class I am taking. I'm wondering if I could do the same thing with my HP-48GX? Would be handy to be able to input to the HP right in the lab and have the correct slope available to intimidate TI carrying co-students. Thanks. If nothing else, if someone could lead me to an algorithm, I'll write my own subroutine. ==== extra info :) Thank you for your interest in Tiqit's eightythree handheld. Due to the overwhelming number of inquiries, we have been unable to get back to many of you individually. We wanted to let you know that we have now posted the answers to some of the most common questions on our web site, . Product specifications, further information and pictures suitable for publication are also posted there. We are currently demonstrating the product, most recently at the CeBIT tradeshow in Germany. The eightythree is not yet in mass production, and is not currently available for purchase. However, we are doing everything possible here at Tiqit to make the eightythree available for purchase by the fourth quarter of 2002. The price has not yet been set, but it will be somewhere between the price of a high-end PDA and the price of a laptop. Thanks again for your interest, Henry Berg, President Ian Blasch, CEO Tiqit Computers, Inc. Avenger wrote in message news:<3ca3de29$1_2@newsa.ev1.net>... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017474775 208.145.205.253 (30 Mar 2002 01:52:55 -0600) Lines: 12 ==== HPhreacker 2002 wrote: Download the TI ROM, convert to library, store into port! [r->] [OFF] -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- ==== John H Meyers wrote: Is this conversion actually possible, or are you just kidding? :-) Anyway, it probably wouldn't be worth it -- if you want a TI-89, get a TI-89! I like that idea of gluing calculators together ;-) -- Bhuvanesh ==== lalu_bhatt@yahoo.com (Bhuvanesh) wrote in message news:<662e00ed.0203300959.678b9972@posting.google.com>... HPTi-489? :D X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.128.62.62 Message-ID: <3ca5f4b0$1@news.mhogaming.com> ==== Yes, I am from Brazil. Why??? Perrone HPhreacker 2002(®) wrote in message news:a82dgm$p92f4$13@ID-88878.news.dfncis.de... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017456073 208.145.205.253 (29 Mar 2002 20:41:13 -0600) Lines: 34 ==== Most folks append comments only to the end of a line of UserRPL, but you can actually insert comments anywhere in a line, e.g.: << VARS SORT @ How's the weather, Frank? @ ORDER >> When you compile the above, you get << VARS SORT ORDER >> Except within quoted strings, the character @ *toggles* comments on/off in the UserRPL compiler, and the end of a line also turns comments off. Rambling on: Quoted strings may contain any embedded symbols and characters (even nulls), except for the unescaped quote character; for strings containing the quote character, the decompiler generates the alternative counted string syntax [C$ nnn string] in the HP48, which is understood by all HP48/49 compilers, while the 49G generates embedded (which is not backward-compatible with the HP48). In the HP48, << SWAP INPUT >> can be used to more easily edit quote-containing strings (or the source text of programs containing such monsters), while EDITB does the same on the 49G. But don't quote me on all this :) [r->] [OFF] -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- ==== I have a program that outputs text using CLLCD, DISP and FREEZE. I want text that is right aligned. At the moment I am using a DO UNTIL END loop to add before the string until the total SIZE of the string is 22. (22 is the width with system font size 6) What else can I do? That loop takes way too long to do the task. Is there a way to right align text? Or maybe another output method that I can do this with? Thanks Michael X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 ==== Michael Frey a écrit dans le message de news: 388c0aa.0203300316.7737cdbd@posting.google.com... Flag 74 maybe ? HPanda ==== It does not work for the DISP command. Unfortunately. Michael ==== In article <388c0aa.0203300316.7737cdbd@posting.google.com>, michi_frey@yahoo.com (Michael Frey) writes: If you can measure the SIZE of the String, can't you create a string of (22-Size) spaces, then concatenate the two strings?. At least then you lose the overhead of the loop! I don't know of a direct right align command for DISP. HTH anyway Bill alternate E-dress wtstorey@ieee.org.no.spam.please (Use the obvious) References: <3C8AD7E3.A5A6B317@telusplanet.net> <460a25b9.0203281331.ddca9bd@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017498669 208.145.205.253 (30 Mar 2002 08:31:09 -0600) Lines: 105 ==== J Marchel wrote: Yes, the power of cooperation and civilization is not extremely manifest in 2-year-olds, and frequently enough this never changes. Were it not that one person's ownership is another's non-ownership, and one person's freedom frequently impinges upon another's freedom, it would all be perfectly clear and simple, but like it or not, there is overlap and conflict, and no man can be an island unto himself; thus we need society, and either too much or too little of both individuality and commonality spoils the feast which life could be, if only its many and varied ingredients were more skillfully combined and blended. Mathematics recognizes that certain problems can never be solved within the system, and neither can life's aspirations and conflicts be solved within any system which considers or experiences only the material aspects of existence, which is basically what fuels every side of these arguments between various theoretical systems of society. Certainly there have been both happy and miserable kingdoms, and both happy and miserable communes, in every size from a small company (or even one family) to a large nation, so these gross characteristics are not what counts. We say that it is fullness of consciousness which counts; it is what, in perfect health, orchestrates the masses of individual cells and separate organs of the body into a system where they each perform their separate functions, at the same time that they they all work completely together, holistically, to promote the mutual health and evolution of both every single cell and the entire organism, which are absolutely interdependent on all levels. It would be impossible to consciously evaluate and direct the billions of individual cellular decisions and actions which keep our biological parts working, but some intelligence or life force does it spontaneously; in fact, it is *only* if we maintain the spontaneity of most of these processes, guided by internal natural intelligence, rather than try to individually dictate them, that we can keep living, so if at all possible, we should want to develop this inner intelligence to its fullest possible extent. Throwing together a pile of bricks doesn't build a house; it takes an architect to design and arrange the parts well, from a higher level of consciousness; neither can individuals build a supportive society without contacting a master architect, a higher than strictly individual level of coordinating intelligence. Yet there exist many different satisfactory designs which work; it doesn't have to be all one style, for all different places and climates, geographies, cultures, environments or individual personalities; ideally, each house suits the consciousness of its occupants, as each family, neighborhood, region or nation should suit the corresponding level of consciousness of its occupants, which is a blend of many factors. There is available a master chef or master architect or master intelligence which can relate and structure individualities into beautiful feasts, beautiful homes and communities, and completely healthy and happy individuals, families, communities, and whole ecosystems; it is the same force, pure intelligence or pure awareness, from a common source, which keeps us all alive, even though we each have our own sense that we are separate from one another, our own individual centers of consciousness, like islands sticking out of a common sea, joined invisibly at their base, a global mass of Siamese twins who don't experience their deep connectedness, and thus don't act for global good, both mutual and individual. Someone recently wrote here that everyone has only a piece of the whole story, and that's so; communists and capitalists, leftists and rightists, science and religion, each cling in ignorance to their own side of the story and clash in battle, foregoing and destroying the Garden of Eden which they could have been perpetuating. Until all levels of the unifying field of consciousness become enlivened in each of us, we do not individually effervesce with glowing creativity, health and happiness from within, and we do not make a coherent and beautiful symphony out of all our individual performances as members of whole families, whole communities, whole nations, and a whole world. If we are conscious, we have that well of unlimited intelligence within us, and we can both live it in personal experience and spread it to others; we need only learn how to be still, how to settle the ocean in which we are all islands, to experience below the surface, to that source where we are all joined; the rest is spontaneous. More here: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3BD56139.222431D2%40miu.edu -[]- -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- References: <3C8AD7E3.A5A6B317@telusplanet.net> <460a25b9.0203281331.ddca9bd@posting.google.com> <3CA5CEEE.FEB35A19@miu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017526376 208.145.205.253 (30 Mar 2002 16:12:56 -0600) Lines: 60 ==== J Marchel wrote: I should have picked up on that to say that it is possible to experience and develop much deeper and more fundamental natural laws in one's own individual awareness, which are more powerful than any man-made, intellectual laws can ever be: http://www.natural-law.org o Creating a true health care system (as opposed to a disease care system)... o Education that develops the student's full potential through curriculum innovations proven to increase intelligence, creativity, and academic performance... o Preventing crime -- not warehousing criminals -- through effective criminal and drug rehabilitation programs, and through proven programs to reduce high levels of societal stress... o Cutting taxes deeply and responsibly, through cost-effective solutions to crime, spiraling health costs, and other social problems -- not through cutting essential services... o Ensuring a strong economy by more effectively harnessing our greatest national resource -- the unlimited creativity and intelligence of our 270 million citizens... Every one of these programs is brought about from one central point -- the contact of people with the inner field of their source, in alternation with their normal, now-enriched activity. You earlier posted, Jacek, something which leads me to think that you may regard consciousness, the spiritual aspect of life, as some sort of luxury, which emerges only as a side-effect of the material side; in our view, it is the reverse, with the quality of inner life expressing itself outward, and controlling both the effects upon us and our effects upon all that with which we materially interact in this world. Eventually, the spirit within us becomes coherent with and generates coherence in the world around us; the wellspring of consciousness that makes us alive in the first place is the ultimate nourishing value to all aspects of living existence, and only by tapping deeply into that inner well can we make outer life, individually and collectively, the rich, full and beautiful experience which we would like it to be. http://www.mum.edu -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017474576 208.145.205.253 (30 Mar 2002 01:49:36 -0600) Lines: 39 ==== Saw this program: | << IFERR NEG THEN neg END >> My perennial sermon: IFERR depends on flag -55 (Last Arguments) If you assume that arguments of the erroring command will be returned to the stack, you may wish to be sure that flag -55 is clear, if you want a rigorously correct program; in any case, IFERR acts differently for each state of flag -55 Otherwise YMMV when flags status is uncertain, as in HP's own APLY sample program for the 48G, which evidences a bug if flag -55 is set (in addition to not being well written for the 48G). I have my own question about IFERR: What happens upon an error in a no-argument command like VARS? (e.g. Insufficient Memory). LASTARG would return the arg(s) of some *previous* command; does IFERR know not to return any arg(s) at all? HPhreacker 2002 (posting from Berlin, with lang. set to Portuguese?) can't seem to get anything working, except us :) Which is odd, considering his/her experience with all of 48SX, 48GX, PCT, INT48pro, and 49G :) [r->] [OFF] -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- NNTP-Posting-Host: cable53a069.usuarios.retecal.es Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ==== John H Meyers escribió en el mensaje news:3CA570D3.51D86664@miu.edu... Hi, John I don't understand YMMV... Raul Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017480203 208.145.205.253 (30 Mar 2002 03:23:23 -0600) Lines: 8 ==== YMMV means Your mileage may vary (or kilometerage in EU :) [r->] [OFF] -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- References: <14da3d00.0203290844.378af082@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ==== Luiz DanieL schrieb: This is a working solution: :: NULLHXS OVER LENHXS EXPAND CODE GOSBVL PopASavptr R0=A.A A+10.A R2=A.A A=DAT1.A A+5.A D1=A C=DAT1.A A+C.A A-1.A D1=A C-7.A R1=C.A RSTK=C { C=R1.A P=C.0 CSR.A RSTK=C A=R2.A D0=A A=0.W C=DAT0.WP C+C.WP SKIPNC { A+1.B } D=C.WP B=A.B A+A.B C+C.WP SKIPNC { A+1.B } A+A.B C+C.WP SKIPNC { A+1.B } A+B.B D+C.WP SKIPNC { A+1.B } C=0.WP D1-1 C=DAT1.1 C+D.WP SKIPNC { A+1.B } DAT0=C.WP CD0EX C+P+1 CD0EX P=0 { R4=A.W C=RSTK C-1.A RSTK=C EXITC C=DAT0.W ?C#0.W -> .cont ?A=0.W EXIT *.cont A=0.W C+C.W SKIPNC { A+1.B } D=C.W B=A.W A+A.B C+C.W SKIPNC { A+1.B } A+A.B C+C.W SKIPNC { A+1.B } B+A.B C+D.W SKIPNC { B+1.B } A=R4.W C+A.W SKIPNC { B+1.B } DAT0=C.W D0+16 A=B.W UP } C=RSTK C=RSTK C-1.A EXITC RSTK=C UP } GOVLNG GPOverWrR0Lp ENDCODE ; @ Note that the generated HXS will be too long (actually the same length as the ZINT was). If these extra zeros are a problem, I'll have to change it a bit. Do you also need a program for the other way round, HXS->ZINT? It might be easier and/or faster to change the algorithm to work with decimal data... AFAIK you cannot create a HXS longer than 16 nibbles with normal UserRPL anyway (with library 256 you can). HTH Thomas -- ==== George Tsiros wrote: ==== Do you want to print the variable names as well as the contents? Are the variables already stored in the order that you want them printed? You could transfer everything to a PC and print from there. If you have a serial printer with the appropriate connector or adapter, then you should be able to print directly to it. If you have a 48 series calculator and an HP 82240 printer, you can transfer the information to the 48 and use that to print to the 82240. But note that ZINTS (exact integers) can't be sent to the 48 as is; use the ->STR command to change them to character strings first. == When setting up the window for plotting trig functions, I'm used to being able to use '2pi', 'pi', 'pi/2', and pi/4' as values for the h-axis and tick marks. Can I do something similar on my 49 rather than entering 6.28, 3.14, 1.57, etc.... regards, danny [33.020N, 96.700W] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ==== You can type 2 pi * ->NUM (if you hit ENTER instead of ->NUM, it won't work). Alternatively, press NXT CALC, compute whatever you want, and hit OK. ==== You could use MATCH^ and/or MATCHv to solve these kind of problems. A good example is found at hpcalc.org site: 49G Programs Programming Misc See at the end VPN STARTEQW 2.0 ==== Lol, actually phasor domain problems are used in the study of circuits with AC sources, by switching over to complex numbers and using eulers identity 2nd order differential equations can be removed. I am sort of annoyed: I need to use complex number And I figure out how to enter them and do most manipulations on them. but the checklist of features specifically over at hp.com says that it can do rectangular <-> polar conversions so I look through the documentation and can not find it anywhere. So I do a google search and all i get is copies of that feature checklist at various retail sites. And then I read the complex marathon, whick says to use the hp48 mode menu- a feature implimented into the 49g in the last rom release. I could use the angle and magnitude commands, but those are awkward compared to a simple >polar on my 89. Am I missing something? or is the feature checklist bragging about features only implimented in the latest unoficial rom? NNTP-Posting-Host: dirkdiggler.xs4all.nl ==== I know that there is a company in the Nintendo gameboy scene, that produces kits to add backlight to the gameboy. The company is called monopoly and the kits should be the best starting point. The kit does use more than only white LED's, they also use a sheet of plastic as a light conductor. The screens look good, so maybe it's a nice idea... http://www.portablemonopoly.com/ Greetings, Eelco ==== With www.hpcalc.org's bandwidth problems, could we create a new usenet newsgroup like alt.binaries.hp48 which would allow people to upload their programs and documentation and stuff without any individual having to pay the bill? This way, we wouldn't have to worry about outages like this. --Andrew Huey Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ==== Hi, it already exists for a long time;-) It's called comp.sources.hp48. Regards, Raymond Andrew Huey schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:ne938a.ehb.ln@127.0.0.1... NNTP-Posting-Host: dirkdiggler.xs4all.nl ==== Keep patient, you don't have to wait much longer. The mirror is almost done and it wouldn't surprise me if it works in the coming week. Andrew Huey wrote in message news:ne938a.ehb.ln@127.0.0.1... ==== In article , Raymond Hellstern writes: I received a message in January saying that comp.source.HP48 was being discontinued at the end of the month. Perhaps this was only on AOL? I never really saw much posted there anyway, but now I don't even see the FAQ posted periodically Bill alternate E-dress wtstorey@ieee.org.no.spam.please (Use the obvious) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ==== You might have had a mal-formed object in the directory you tried to purge. Try using XPURGE on that directory and see if it does the same thing. -- Aaron HPhreacker 2002(®) wrote: Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:150186 Does someone know how do I find tecnical docs about chip-8 or chip-48? thanks for your time. ==== hp48sx ... I would like to beg or borrow some sample program code (or ideas) that would take an integer value from 0 to 100 as stored in a variable to be displayed on a Y-axis, with real time displayed on the X-axis. This is for a personal data acquistion project (I'm trying to graph air temperature) on my hp48sx. I have the program working to capture the data just fine, but need to come up with a few ideas to actually display it graphically. Would any of you fine folks be able to contribute some ideas? Thanks very much -Dale- ==== When I try to evaluate certain integrals (definite or indefinite) using my HP49, it does nothing except add a t to every X. i.e., intvx(sqrt(1+cos(X)^2)) returns the result int(sqrt(1+cos(Xt)^2),Xt,X) Is this just because the integrals are not evaluable, or is it because of some flaw in the HP's algorithm? Thanks -- ==== Even the Ti92+ can't solve this... DanieL. ckbrown123@yahoo.com (Quandary) wrote in message news:... ==== i get this in maple: -(-(1+cos(x)^2)*(-1+cos(x)^2))^(1/2)*(1-cos(x)^2)^(1/2)*EllipticE(cos(x),I)/ (-cos(x)^4+1)^(1/2)/sin(x) after simplifying i get: -(1-cos(x)^2)^(1/2)*EllipticE(cos(x),I)/sin(x) that is a tough cookie to chew :) ckbrown123@yahoo.com (Quandary) wrote in message news:... ==== ckbrown123@yahoo.com (Quandary) wrote: No, it's not a flaw. The result requires a special function (an elliptic function, actually) to be expressed, and these calculators do not support symbolic integration in terms of special functions. -- Bhuvanesh X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 ==== The integral sqrt(1+cos(X)^2) is not able to be integrated even by advanced software package such as Mathematica or Maple. Thus I conclude that there is no simple solution. Quandary wrote in message news:eb55eb37.0203300007.6ab52a85@posting.google.com... ==== Maple is a good one... The mathcad 2001 returns the same input value... DanieL. lalu_bhatt@yahoo.com (Bhuvanesh) wrote in message news:<662e00ed.0203300956.247c1c9a@posting.google.com>... X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 ==== And Mathematica is another. Which is best is religion, and in my eyes depend on application. Mathcad is a toy, compared with the two others, but is good if your math is straight and you need a good looking document. Regards Steen References: <388c0aa.0203260137.514c904c@posting.google.com> <639cb51.0203260535.604d1d6d@posting.google.com> <639cb51.0203270110.350db4ba@posting.google.com> <639cb51.0203290600.6eeb2f55@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017467401 208.145.205.253 (29 Mar 2002 23:50:01 -0600) Lines: 79 ==== Just read: So it's not real, then! As usual, confusion abounds when terminology is just thrown around, without quite having a meaning, only sounding as if it does, but then slipping away like the Cheshire cat, leaving only a smile. I have no idea what Wolfram takes number to mean, then, but in my own head (not necessarily agreeing with anyone else), I used to consider numbers to mean whatever class of things (loose terminology again :) satisfies the axioms of arithmetic (e.g. if a+b=a+c then b=c), which infinity (as 'a') doesn't. Perhaps it's parallel to that IEEE definition, which defines a *specific* value to be returned by a floating-point *arithmetic* unit to mean not a number (NaN), but still within the domain of a collection of 64 bits (or whatever the register size), so that it appears to be a *number* that is *not* a number! Russell never nailed it all down, either, and some math folks say that his PM is considered, well, *not* considered, any more. But I heard a story about Russell, which is that at some gathering, someone said to him that (s)he'd never before met anyone who had written a book, to which Russell replied that he'd got to the same age before he'd ever met anyone who hadn't! Mathematics possesses not only truth, but supreme beauty -- a beauty cold and austere, like that of sculpture, without appeal to any part of our weaker nature... sublimely pure, and capable of a stern perfection such as only the greatest art can show. - Bertrand Russell (1872-1970) A mathematician, like a painter or a poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas. The mathematician's patterns, like the painter's or the poet's, must be beautiful; the ideas, like the colours or the words, must fit together in a harmonious way. Beauty is the first test: there is no permanent place in the world for ugly mathematics. - G. H. Hardy (A Mathematician's Apology) There was a young lady from Niger who smiled as she rode on a tiger; they returned from the ride with the lady inside and the smile on the face of the tiger! http://www-white.media.mit.edu/~cchao/JavaCode/cat.gif http://www.pku.edu.cn/study/libra/story06.htm http://home.earthlink.net/~lfdean/carroll/nursery/chapter09.html [and Dodgson/Carroll, of course, was a mathematician, too!] http://www.lewiscarroll.org/logic.html In 1876, Lewis Carroll proposed a voting system in which the winner is the candidate who with the fewest changes in voters' preferences beats all other candidates in pairwise majority-rule elections http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/hemaspaandra97exact.html I don't think Bush would have won ;-) [r->] [OFF] -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- ==== In an Exel spreadsheet chart, when you add a trendline to a batch of data points, you have the choice of forcing the trendline to go through the origin (0,0). This is pretty common practice during the Physics class I am taking. I'm wondering if I could do the same thing with my HP-48GX? Would be handy to be able to input to the HP right in the lab and have the correct slope available to intimidate TI carrying co-students. Thanks. If nothing else, if someone could lead me to an algorithm, I'll write my own subroutine. ==== extra info :) Thank you for your interest in Tiqit's eightythree handheld. Due to the overwhelming number of inquiries, we have been unable to get back to many of you individually. We wanted to let you know that we have now posted the answers to some of the most common questions on our web site, . Product specifications, further information and pictures suitable for publication are also posted there. We are currently demonstrating the product, most recently at the CeBIT tradeshow in Germany. The eightythree is not yet in mass production, and is not currently available for purchase. However, we are doing everything possible here at Tiqit to make the eightythree available for purchase by the fourth quarter of 2002. The price has not yet been set, but it will be somewhere between the price of a high-end PDA and the price of a laptop. Thanks again for your interest, Henry Berg, President Ian Blasch, CEO Tiqit Computers, Inc. Avenger wrote in message news:<3ca3de29$1_2@newsa.ev1.net>... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017474775 208.145.205.253 (30 Mar 2002 01:52:55 -0600) Lines: 12 ==== HPhreacker 2002 wrote: Download the TI ROM, convert to library, store into port! [r->] [OFF] -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- ==== John H Meyers wrote: Is this conversion actually possible, or are you just kidding? :-) Anyway, it probably wouldn't be worth it -- if you want a TI-89, get a TI-89! I like that idea of gluing calculators together ;-) -- Bhuvanesh ==== lalu_bhatt@yahoo.com (Bhuvanesh) wrote in message news:<662e00ed.0203300959.678b9972@posting.google.com>... HPTi-489? :D X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.128.62.62 Message-ID: <3ca5f4b0$1@news.mhogaming.com> ==== Yes, I am from Brazil. Why??? Perrone HPhreacker 2002(®) wrote in message news:a82dgm$p92f4$13@ID-88878.news.dfncis.de... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017456073 208.145.205.253 (29 Mar 2002 20:41:13 -0600) Lines: 34 ==== Most folks append comments only to the end of a line of UserRPL, but you can actually insert comments anywhere in a line, e.g.: << VARS SORT @ How's the weather, Frank? @ ORDER >> When you compile the above, you get << VARS SORT ORDER >> Except within quoted strings, the character @ *toggles* comments on/off in the UserRPL compiler, and the end of a line also turns comments off. Rambling on: Quoted strings may contain any embedded symbols and characters (even nulls), except for the unescaped quote character; for strings containing the quote character, the decompiler generates the alternative counted string syntax [C$ nnn string] in the HP48, which is understood by all HP48/49 compilers, while the 49G generates embedded (which is not backward-compatible with the HP48). In the HP48, << SWAP INPUT >> can be used to more easily edit quote-containing strings (or the source text of programs containing such monsters), while EDITB does the same on the 49G. But don't quote me on all this :) [r->] [OFF] -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- ==== I have a program that outputs text using CLLCD, DISP and FREEZE. I want text that is right aligned. At the moment I am using a DO UNTIL END loop to add before the string until the total SIZE of the string is 22. (22 is the width with system font size 6) What else can I do? That loop takes way too long to do the task. Is there a way to right align text? Or maybe another output method that I can do this with? Thanks Michael X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 ==== Michael Frey a écrit dans le message de news: 388c0aa.0203300316.7737cdbd@posting.google.com... Flag 74 maybe ? HPanda ==== It does not work for the DISP command. Unfortunately. Michael ==== In article <388c0aa.0203300316.7737cdbd@posting.google.com>, michi_frey@yahoo.com (Michael Frey) writes: If you can measure the SIZE of the String, can't you create a string of (22-Size) spaces, then concatenate the two strings?. At least then you lose the overhead of the loop! I don't know of a direct right align command for DISP. HTH anyway Bill alternate E-dress wtstorey@ieee.org.no.spam.please (Use the obvious) References: <3C8AD7E3.A5A6B317@telusplanet.net> <460a25b9.0203281331.ddca9bd@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017498669 208.145.205.253 (30 Mar 2002 08:31:09 -0600) Lines: 105 ==== J Marchel wrote: Yes, the power of cooperation and civilization is not extremely manifest in 2-year-olds, and frequently enough this never changes. Were it not that one person's ownership is another's non-ownership, and one person's freedom frequently impinges upon another's freedom, it would all be perfectly clear and simple, but like it or not, there is overlap and conflict, and no man can be an island unto himself; thus we need society, and either too much or too little of both individuality and commonality spoils the feast which life could be, if only its many and varied ingredients were more skillfully combined and blended. Mathematics recognizes that certain problems can never be solved within the system, and neither can life's aspirations and conflicts be solved within any system which considers or experiences only the material aspects of existence, which is basically what fuels every side of these arguments between various theoretical systems of society. Certainly there have been both happy and miserable kingdoms, and both happy and miserable communes, in every size from a small company (or even one family) to a large nation, so these gross characteristics are not what counts. We say that it is fullness of consciousness which counts; it is what, in perfect health, orchestrates the masses of individual cells and separate organs of the body into a system where they each perform their separate functions, at the same time that they they all work completely together, holistically, to promote the mutual health and evolution of both every single cell and the entire organism, which are absolutely interdependent on all levels. It would be impossible to consciously evaluate and direct the billions of individual cellular decisions and actions which keep our biological parts working, but some intelligence or life force does it spontaneously; in fact, it is *only* if we maintain the spontaneity of most of these processes, guided by internal natural intelligence, rather than try to individually dictate them, that we can keep living, so if at all possible, we should want to develop this inner intelligence to its fullest possible extent. Throwing together a pile of bricks doesn't build a house; it takes an architect to design and arrange the parts well, from a higher level of consciousness; neither can individuals build a supportive society without contacting a master architect, a higher than strictly individual level of coordinating intelligence. Yet there exist many different satisfactory designs which work; it doesn't have to be all one style, for all different places and climates, geographies, cultures, environments or individual personalities; ideally, each house suits the consciousness of its occupants, as each family, neighborhood, region or nation should suit the corresponding level of consciousness of its occupants, which is a blend of many factors. There is available a master chef or master architect or master intelligence which can relate and structure individualities into beautiful feasts, beautiful homes and communities, and completely healthy and happy individuals, families, communities, and whole ecosystems; it is the same force, pure intelligence or pure awareness, from a common source, which keeps us all alive, even though we each have our own sense that we are separate from one another, our own individual centers of consciousness, like islands sticking out of a common sea, joined invisibly at their base, a global mass of Siamese twins who don't experience their deep connectedness, and thus don't act for global good, both mutual and individual. Someone recently wrote here that everyone has only a piece of the whole story, and that's so; communists and capitalists, leftists and rightists, science and religion, each cling in ignorance to their own side of the story and clash in battle, foregoing and destroying the Garden of Eden which they could have been perpetuating. Until all levels of the unifying field of consciousness become enlivened in each of us, we do not individually effervesce with glowing creativity, health and happiness from within, and we do not make a coherent and beautiful symphony out of all our individual performances as members of whole families, whole communities, whole nations, and a whole world. If we are conscious, we have that well of unlimited intelligence within us, and we can both live it in personal experience and spread it to others; we need only learn how to be still, how to settle the ocean in which we are all islands, to experience below the surface, to that source where we are all joined; the rest is spontaneous. More here: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3BD56139.222431D2%40miu.edu -[]- -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- References: <3C8AD7E3.A5A6B317@telusplanet.net> <460a25b9.0203281331.ddca9bd@posting.google.com> <3CA5CEEE.FEB35A19@miu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017526376 208.145.205.253 (30 Mar 2002 16:12:56 -0600) Lines: 60 ==== J Marchel wrote: I should have picked up on that to say that it is possible to experience and develop much deeper and more fundamental natural laws in one's own individual awareness, which are more powerful than any man-made, intellectual laws can ever be: http://www.natural-law.org o Creating a true health care system (as opposed to a disease care system)... o Education that develops the student's full potential through curriculum innovations proven to increase intelligence, creativity, and academic performance... o Preventing crime -- not warehousing criminals -- through effective criminal and drug rehabilitation programs, and through proven programs to reduce high levels of societal stress... o Cutting taxes deeply and responsibly, through cost-effective solutions to crime, spiraling health costs, and other social problems -- not through cutting essential services... o Ensuring a strong economy by more effectively harnessing our greatest national resource -- the unlimited creativity and intelligence of our 270 million citizens... Every one of these programs is brought about from one central point -- the contact of people with the inner field of their source, in alternation with their normal, now-enriched activity. You earlier posted, Jacek, something which leads me to think that you may regard consciousness, the spiritual aspect of life, as some sort of luxury, which emerges only as a side-effect of the material side; in our view, it is the reverse, with the quality of inner life expressing itself outward, and controlling both the effects upon us and our effects upon all that with which we materially interact in this world. Eventually, the spirit within us becomes coherent with and generates coherence in the world around us; the wellspring of consciousness that makes us alive in the first place is the ultimate nourishing value to all aspects of living existence, and only by tapping deeply into that inner well can we make outer life, individually and collectively, the rich, full and beautiful experience which we would like it to be. http://www.mum.edu -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017474576 208.145.205.253 (30 Mar 2002 01:49:36 -0600) Lines: 39 ==== Saw this program: | << IFERR NEG THEN neg END >> My perennial sermon: IFERR depends on flag -55 (Last Arguments) If you assume that arguments of the erroring command will be returned to the stack, you may wish to be sure that flag -55 is clear, if you want a rigorously correct program; in any case, IFERR acts differently for each state of flag -55 Otherwise YMMV when flags status is uncertain, as in HP's own APLY sample program for the 48G, which evidences a bug if flag -55 is set (in addition to not being well written for the 48G). I have my own question about IFERR: What happens upon an error in a no-argument command like VARS? (e.g. Insufficient Memory). LASTARG would return the arg(s) of some *previous* command; does IFERR know not to return any arg(s) at all? HPhreacker 2002 (posting from Berlin, with lang. set to Portuguese?) can't seem to get anything working, except us :) Which is odd, considering his/her experience with all of 48SX, 48GX, PCT, INT48pro, and 49G :) [r->] [OFF] -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- NNTP-Posting-Host: cable53a069.usuarios.retecal.es Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ==== John H Meyers escribió en el mensaje news:3CA570D3.51D86664@miu.edu... Hi, John I don't understand YMMV... Raul Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017480203 208.145.205.253 (30 Mar 2002 03:23:23 -0600) Lines: 8 ==== YMMV means Your mileage may vary (or kilometerage in EU :) [r->] [OFF] -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- References: <14da3d00.0203290844.378af082@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ==== Luiz DanieL schrieb: This is a working solution: :: NULLHXS OVER LENHXS EXPAND CODE GOSBVL PopASavptr R0=A.A A+10.A R2=A.A A=DAT1.A A+5.A D1=A C=DAT1.A A+C.A A-1.A D1=A C-7.A R1=C.A RSTK=C { C=R1.A P=C.0 CSR.A RSTK=C A=R2.A D0=A A=0.W C=DAT0.WP C+C.WP SKIPNC { A+1.B } D=C.WP B=A.B A+A.B C+C.WP SKIPNC { A+1.B } A+A.B C+C.WP SKIPNC { A+1.B } A+B.B D+C.WP SKIPNC { A+1.B } C=0.WP D1-1 C=DAT1.1 C+D.WP SKIPNC { A+1.B } DAT0=C.WP CD0EX C+P+1 CD0EX P=0 { R4=A.W C=RSTK C-1.A RSTK=C EXITC C=DAT0.W ?C#0.W -> .cont ?A=0.W EXIT *.cont A=0.W C+C.W SKIPNC { A+1.B } D=C.W B=A.W A+A.B C+C.W SKIPNC { A+1.B } A+A.B C+C.W SKIPNC { A+1.B } B+A.B C+D.W SKIPNC { B+1.B } A=R4.W C+A.W SKIPNC { B+1.B } DAT0=C.W D0+16 A=B.W UP } C=RSTK C=RSTK C-1.A EXITC RSTK=C UP } GOVLNG GPOverWrR0Lp ENDCODE ; @ Note that the generated HXS will be too long (actually the same length as the ZINT was). If these extra zeros are a problem, I'll have to change it a bit. Do you also need a program for the other way round, HXS->ZINT? It might be easier and/or faster to change the algorithm to work with decimal data... AFAIK you cannot create a HXS longer than 16 nibbles with normal UserRPL anyway (with library 256 you can). HTH Thomas -- ==== George Tsiros wrote: == charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal ==== Riccardo Conturbia wrote in message news:Xfjn8.17972$pT1.535032@news1.tin.it... http://www.engr.uvic.ca/~aschoorl/faq/48faq.html Also check out http://www.hpcalc.org -- `What a depressingly stupid machine' Detlef Mueller -- Marvin Detlef[DOT]M[AT]hamburg[DOT]de http://mein.hamburg.de/homepage/grendel ==== Help please. Thanks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ==== Use # 30794h SYSEVAL Becareful when entering the number. An invalid number may/will crash your calculator with Memory Lost. You will get something like HPHP48-E, where the character behind the - is the version. Cheers Christoph Dale schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:0rrhausihqc2tupk9p1qe5eo972u8kansb@4ax.com... ==== Hello, there is not a lot of ways to do it. the only thing would be to store the markers for each objects and check them again when you want to test if things have been changed. well, they are other ways. For example, you can recode a new kernel that just run your program and starts the normal kernel after... regards, Cyrille ==== I mean of course purple/green shift keys instead of grey/green. On 31-03-2002 18:31, in article B8CD0675.7147%arnold.franck@skynet.be, Arnold FRANCK wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ==== Arnold FRANCK wrote: The newer purple/green ones are all over ebay (NIB), with a few orange/blue ones thrown in for good measure. Browse around here - http://listings.ebay.com/aw/plistings/list/all/category11711/index.html ____ Neil ==== Hi, Anyone tell me where I could send an Hp42s calculator for repair (I live in the UK)... this one crashed spectacularly when I changed the batteries recently... though that might not have much to do with it.. Rgds Andrew W References: <3ca8a3ea_3@news2.vip.uk.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 3639245527.mi.dial.hexcom.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; ==== andywarburton wrote: Visit www.hpmuseum.org/repair.htm or ask at www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/forum.cgi -- Regards, James ==== hi Scott, just curious, i tried to do the diff on your answer and i don't get back the answer sqrt(1+cos(x)^2). probably i am writing the wrong sintax. i get it with maple. does yours (mathematica) returns the original funtion? i am not saying that yours is wrong, just asking :) regards Scott Hemphill wrote in message news:... X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 ==== May be to make the difference between X and the mute variable ( ?? variable muete en francais ) Xt. Quandary a écrit dans le message de news: eb55eb37.0203311802.6bf269d4@posting.google.com... news:... conclude because ==== rcobo@eng.morgan.edu (rcobo) wrote: It's just in a different form :) In[1]:= Integrate[Sqrt[1+Cos[x]^2], x] 1 Out[1]= Sqrt[2] EllipticE[x, -] 2 In[2]:= D[%, x] 2 Sin[x] Out[2]= Sqrt[2] Sqrt[1 - -------] 2 In[3]:= Simplify[% == Sqrt[1+Cos[x]^2]] Out[3]= True -- Bhuvanesh ==== Hi everybody, www.hpcalc.org is already back. ==== Does anyone want to join in a class action suit against Hewlett-Packard for refusing to supply a copy of the Windows XP operating system to owners of their Pavilion Series Computers? I have already sent an email to my States AG Ofc, Consumer Fraud Division. I am sure others are just as angry. Please email me at johnff78 @ hotmail.com and i can supply my full name and address to legitimate responses. John NNTP-Posting-Host: 3639245527.mi.dial.hexcom.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ==== www.hp.com:calculators-product-id=67cx@209.197.117.170/item/product.htm I hope this isn't an April's fool joke! -- Regards, James References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 3639245527.mi.dial.hexcom.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ==== I wrote: PS: See the thread at www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/forum.cgi?read=16292 for more discussion of the new product. -- Regards, James References: <6df5f8d0.0203311458.4d20dd38@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 ==== AM schrieb: Maybe you can solve the problem by using a SysRPL BEGIN UNTIL loop? - Thomas -- Thomas Rast If you cannot convince them, confuse them. -- Harry S. Truman X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 ==== It's OK with ME, by golly! Xaing Dia wrote in message news:3nDp8.10853$9d3.284@nwrddc01.gnilink.net... of the Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ==== On 26 Mar 2002 13:56:56 -0800, timite_h@yahoo.fr (Timité Hassan) wrote: I have been an HP user since the HP25 . I do also have an TI 89,because most of my students have some sort of TI calculator. (My department paid for it.) What I cannot believe is that the TI 89, as far as I can tell, has no 1/x key as a non-shifted position. You have to use X^-1. Harold A. Climer Dept. of Physics,Geology and Astronomy U. Tennessee at Chattanooga Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48 ==== On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 22:29:31 +0100, J Marchel wrote (in message <%05p8.24950$VJ1.2268846@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>): Same mistake on your side once again: the difference between the US and Europe price is precisely the sales tax (VAT). No mystery. It's the same with mail order within the US: the price is higher if you order within your own state. The only difference is that prices in the US are almost always shown before tax, while in Europe, they are often shown after tax. I think it is time to stop this argument. Here is what I have seen: - Many product prices (before sales tax) are slightly higher in Europe - Some product prices are significantly higher in Europe - A few product prices are significantly lower in Europe No clear patter has emerged on which ones are higher where and by how much. This is in contradiction to any kind of duty fee, which results in very consistent (and large) price differences in large category of products. This is convincingly explained though by different pricing strategies from the manufacturers, and by a less competitive environment. This hypothesis is also supported by the fact that the price differential has steadily decreased as the spread of the internet has made such practices more noticeable by a fraction a of consumers. I expect this price differential to continue to decrease as more and more consumers get access to this information, and as the competition level increases. Jean-Denis ==== my first sci-calc was a 25. loved it, learned much from that puppy. still have it! ==== very good! References: <3C8AD7E3.A5A6B317@telusplanet.net> <460a25b9.0203281331.ddca9bd@posting.google.com> <3CA5CEEE.FEB35A19@miu.edu> <3CA63B29.51F8EE68@miu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017699453 208.145.205.253 (1 Apr 2002 16:17:33 -0600) Lines: 85 ==== George Tsiros wrote: Only if the education also includes the students' personal, individual experience of the field of their own consciousness will it have the fundamental effect of which we speak; intellectual knowledge is a very important thing, but it can never alone suffice. Only water puts out fire; only rest (sleep) cures fatigue, and only peace (from deep inside ourselves) cures the negativity which its lack creates; no other element of education can do this. That's where the previous investments in education have gone -- more engineers for more material production, a great deal of which is destructive, whether intentionally or unintentionally. What is life? The difference between the animate and the inanimate, between non-living and living, is that life has consciousness, which is the very essence of being alive. Even on the material level, if we don't have water, we dry up and die; all living things need some access to a source of pure water to replenish themselves and to flourish, or else they will wither, decline, and die; all living beings, which means centers of consciousness, also need access to their source, or else they will lead malnourished lives. So long as humanity ignores its own source and does not nourish it, it will not thrive, and since most of humanity does seem to be ignorant (unaware) of the source of its own life (consciousness), so much of humanity is struggling instead of thriving, and that is the very reason that they are threats to each other, and that is the very reason that governments are funneling more money into weaponry! Nourishment of consciousness is the most cost-saving and resource-freeing investment that can be made; in over 40 years of research, it has been proven to reduce disease and promote health, to reduce negativity, drug use and crime, and thereby to promote crime-free tendencies, and to actually raise all measures of both intelligence and mental health, which includes improvement of learning and all measures of student performance, as well as job performance, and the overall experience of just feeling life to be simulteneously both easier and more fulfilling. Like water, in a sense, it is all around us, and is essentially free -- it was already created by nature in abundance, and needs no manufacture, it only takes a small investment to learn to tap into it from deep aquifers, and with a little guarding of its purity, protecting it from contamination and seeing to it that people don't neglect it, everyone can have it; unlike material water, however, its supply can never run out. The materialistic blindness of the world is the only obstacle to recognizing its value, and its lack of recognition and use is the only thing which is responsible for the continuing sagas of destruction in this world. We liken it to a withering tree, whose leaves are drying out, yellowing, dying. We offer to water the root; the world elects instead to throw a coat of green paint on some of the leaves. http://www.mum.edu http://www.tm.org . . -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- ==== Hello all I would like to know what the format is for the screen-dump on the HP49G 'cause I want to capture it and convert it to PCX under DOS using my own program. I thank you beforehand. !Demeter! ==== Hello, Here is the code used to print the screen. it sends 1 bytes: the annunciators 1 byte: W or G for 2 or 4 color screen 64*17 bytes per line of data (*2 for a Gray scale screen) (really, the HP49 ram content) regards, Cyrille %***************************** %* New LCD print function. %***************************** *DoPrintLCD D1=(5)TCS { C=DAT1.B ?CBIT=1.0 UP } % Wait until RS232 free D1=(2)TBR C=DAT1.A D1=(2)BAU C=DAT1.4 D=C.A % Save current RS232 config LC 8FC6 DAT1=C.4 D1=(2)IRC LC 0 DAT1=C.1 % 9600, RS232, actif D1=(2)ANNCTRL C=DAT1.B A=C.B ABIT=1.5 DAT1=A.B % Turn transmiting on GOSUB .Pchar % Send annunciators % Send main screen D1=(5)GreyOn? A=DAT1.B ?A#0.P % Grey scale on? { LC 57 GOSUB .Pchar % Send White Screen indicator (W) D1=(5)DISP1CTLg GOSUB .SendFrame % Send Main W&B screen D1=(5)DISP2CTLg GOSUB .SendSoft % Now, take care of menus } SKELSE { LC 47 GOSUB .Pchar % Send Grey screen indicator (G) D1=(5)GreyScr1 A=DAT1.A D1+10 C=DAT1.A ?A=C.A { D1+10 } % Locate High Intensity screen GOSUB .SendFrame D1=(5)GreySoft1 A=DAT1.A D1+10 C=DAT1.A ?A=C.A { D1+10 } % Locate High Intensity Menus GOSUB .SendSoft D1=(5)GreyScr1 A=DAT1.A D1+10 C=DAT1.A D1+10 ?A=C.A { A=DAT1.A D1-10 ?A#C.A EXIT D1-10 } % Locate Low Intensity screen GOSUB .SendFrame D1=(5)GreyScr1 A=DAT1.A D1+10 C=DAT1.A D1+10 ?A=C.A { A=DAT1.A D1-10 ?A#C.A EXIT D1-10 } % Locate Low intensity menu GOSUB .SendSoft } C=D.A D1=(2)IRC P=4 C=DAT1.P P=0 D1=(2)BAU C=DAT1.4 % Restore RS232 config D1=(2)ANNCTRL C=DAT1.B CBIT=0.5 DAT1=C.B % Turn transmiting off GOTO normalrti % Back home *.Pchar D1=(5)TCS { A=DAT1.B ?ABIT=1.0 UP } % Wait until RS232 free D1=(2)TBR DAT1=C.B % Send on chr RTN *.SendSoft % Send a soft menu A=DAT1.A D0=A % First pixel of the screen at D0 LC 03F % No margin for menus D1=(5)LINECOUNTg A=DAT1.B ?A#0.B { A=C.B } C-A.B % Get number of lines to display for menu C-1.B SKC { GOSUB .PLine UPNC } % Send them RTN *.SendFrame % Send a main screen A=DAT1.A % Read Main Screen start adr D1=(5)BITOFFSET C=DAT1.XS % Get Left margin in C3 ?CBIT=0.10 { A+1.A } D0=A % First pixel of the screen at D0 D1=(5)LINENIBSg A=0.A A=DAT1.X ?ABIT=0.11 { A=-A.XS A=-A.A } B=A.A % Ba= signed line offset ?CBIT=0.10 { B+1.A B+1.A } % add correction if left margin>=4 (See Yorke doc. for more informatino on display) D1=(2)LINECOUNTg C=DAT1.B ?C#0.B { LC 3F } % Get number of lines to display for main screen. 0 is 63 lines { GOSUB .PLine RTNC AD0EX A+B.A AD0EX UPNC } % Send them *.PLine % Send one line A=0.M A+16.M { D1=(5)TCS { A=DAT1.B ?ABIT=1.0 UP } % Wait until RS232 free A=DAT0.X D0+2 ?CBIT=0.8 { ASRB.X } ?CBIT=0.9 { ASRB.X ASRB.X } % Get shifted next 14 nibbles D1=(2)TBR DAT1=A.B % Send on chr A-1.M UPNC % No need to be fast here } C-1.B RTN !RPL Demeter wrote in message news:5bff2c2e.0204010046.3bd02907@posting.google.com... ==== Cyrille I really thank you for your immediate response. I will certainly make something out of what you sent me! :-) !Demeter! ==== danny mathews wrote in message news:... Hi Danny! Just STOre the current contents of PPAR (and/or ZPAR and similar variables) to some other variable for later use. Greetings, Nick. ==== Hello, What it does, is just to clear the flag that says that the IR led has detected data, but it does not do anything, nor provide any functionality. Regards, Cyrille Subject: Re: Announcement: Complex marathon, part 1 is ready References: <5ae5321a.0203270944.60ab7b31@posting.google.com> <5ae5321a.0203301342.772a09a0@posting.google.com> <3CA74D8B.55348AC5@miu.edu> <3CA782F7.2E8108C2@freesurf.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017739688 208.145.205.253 (2 Apr 2002 03:28:08 -0600) Lines: 50 ==== Thomas Rast wrote: jhm> [...] nor did they jhm> put the angle symbol on the default keyboard either By default keyboard I meant what's printed, but thanks for posting for the person who asked for help. 49G combinations like these are unwieldly (three keys?) and hard to remember; previous 48G users (like me) might rather have a close equivalent to what they used to have! For anyone entering polar coordinates extremely often, or desiring to switch display modes extremely often, a Custom Menu might be even better, e.g.: { <) , RECT CYLIN DEG RAD } MENU The MENU command also stores the menu into 'CST', so that left-shift CUSTOM (or the CST key on the 48) brings it back at any time. By <) we mean the angle symbol, which is... oh, where the heck is it, again? ;-) -[]- . -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- ==== Veli-Pekka Nousiainen wrote in message news:... OU812? ;-) Next next part intriduces yet another possibility to do that. By the way, does anybody here use vectored enter frequently? Greetings, Nick. NNTP-Posting-Host: cs2416722-115.houston.rr.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ==== Nick Karagiaouroglou wrote in message news:cd9ca36b.0203251554.4274a19e@posting.google.com... Excellent Documentation, Thanks alot Hernan -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG ==== Why APPS menu (hp49g) has so many junk options? I think the options could be: Plot functions.. (for those who don't like to hold the shift key) I/O functions.. Constants lib.. Development lib.. (Other libraries..) /* I don't need to explain why the other options are redundant, do I? Specially the text editor, which is just the command line in PRG mode... */ ------------------------------------------------- The CAS menu from APPS could be the new SYMB menu (with some options added when necessary, e.g. GRAPH). In the TOOL menu, CASCMD and HELP seem to do the same thing (stack display)... Again, I think we only need __1__ CAS menu (on the SYMB key). Look at an example: // these two are almost the same, but two items differ: [->] TRIG or APPS, CAS menu, TRIG TRIGO // this is the most INcomplete: SYMB, TRIG How can I find the function I need in this confusion? I'd rather type them! I would be much happier with 1 menu for trig, 1 for calc, etc. where I could find everything related to the subject. --------------------------------------------------- The softkey CHOOSE in the Y= window seems to do nothing... --------------------------------------------------- (PS:I use rom 1.19-6, RPN mode) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017745186 208.145.205.253 (2 Apr 2002 04:59:46 -0600) Lines: 60 ==== A new user in shock wrote: Try INTVX CASCMD vs. HELP -- that's the small difference (HELP does not accept an argument) Even the extremely well-organized 48G took me some time to find my way around; it's just BIG and FULL of stuff! And I thought its CST key was stupid, as it didn't do anything! But come to think of it, I've swapped EVAL with SYMB, so my SYMB key is much more useful :) You can. You can create your own menus. You have not yet stored any other user-defined functions in variables, so there's nothing else to choose from. By 2003 they'll be free to add a message saying No functions found or some such thing, if the product's life isn't already too short, or its ROM too full :) -[]- . -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- ==== Hello, what you can also do is create an extension program that remove the entries that you do not want from the app menu regards, Cyrille yuu wrote in message news:b34b792b.0204011934.7826890@posting.google.com... NNTP-Posting-Host: tethys.arcada.fi Mime-Version: 1.0 ==== Thanks for the tips. I'll give them both a go when I've mustered up the courage to rip my baby apart. :-) PS. George, I hope the bast...s who stole your baby shortcircuit it. *************************** * Markus Nylund * * markus.nylund@arcada.fi * * 040-5377 377 * *************************** ==== Hello, I have got an HP49G and the Serial Cable and I use Linux. I want to know how to copy file from the PC to the HP. Thanks -- Baptiste Ritter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ==== Baptiste Ritter schrieb: Use sx/rx with C-Kermit: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3B9A037E.939A1E43%40iname.com http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3BD04D78.309344DE%40iname.com http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3BD87BA0.11F86C79%40iname.com - Thomas -- Thomas Rast If you cannot convince them, confuse them. -- Harry S. Truman X-Proxy-Client: cung@uiuc.edu from lincoln-pl-5.flexabit.net ==== Hello, I'm using the hp48g+, and i must say i really like this calculator. however, sometimes it still crashes on me. Just wondering, does typing too fast on the HP make it crash??? I use EqStk the newest one (with the 7 lin interactive stack). Is there some possibl way to try and prevent crashing? Thanks ==== gc wrote in message news:... Perhaps that's why the HP49G keys are so stiff. You just can't type very quickly so the possible crashes are eliminated ;-) Greetings, Nick. P.S. Sometimes had the same behavior on the HP48GX, while editing objects and using <-DEL and DEL-> a lot. ==== nk@imos-consulting.com (Nick Karagiaouroglou) wrote: Aha, so that's the reason! It's a bugfix. ;-) -- Bhuvanesh ==== ATTchu wrote in message news:... Hi Dale! The command for turning a single pixel on is PIXON. It needs a complex number or a list with two binary numbers on stack level 1. Example: (1,1) PIXON will turn the pixel at *user* coordinates 1,1 {#1d #1d} PIXON will turn the first pixel starting from the upper left corner of the display. When you know that your time range will be, say from 0 to 10 seconds and your temperature range from 0 to 100 degrees, you can first do (0,0) PMIN and (10,100) PMAX to setup the picture scale, so that all data will be visible. PIXON, and all other drawing commands *do not* also show the current PICT. You must do for example {#0d #0d} PVIEW to see the PICT and also 7 FREEZE or PICTURE if you want the pict to persist after program completion. Hope it helped a little bit, Nick. Mime-Version: 1.0 ==== Er.. I've done some C, but can't really get the hang of the 49's syntax. What I want is to quicken the calculation of a 2:nd derivate of a function where I determine which variable I want derivated. I tried: << -> A B 'DERIV(A,B)' -> C << 'DERIV(C,B)' >> And it doesn't work, just returns 'DERIV(C,B)' Do I have to declare B&C again when using them in a nested function? Alas, << C >> does return an answer for 1 derivation, but DERIV(C,B) without the quotation marks gives Invalid syntax. Help will be appreciated! -- *************************** * Markus Nylund * * markus.nylund@arcada.fi * * 040-5377 377 * *************************** ==== Hello Cyrille, Do you mind to go little bit deeper in details? TIA Andreas warmstart without STARTUP? References: <6df5f8d0.0203311458.4d20dd38@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017740664 208.145.205.253 (2 Apr 2002 03:44:24 -0600) Lines: 27 ==== Cyrille de Brébisson wrote: What if same order and size, but different object? How about a checksum of each port bank? (How did 48 test?) Or a checksum of the checksums of all objects in port? (small chance of non-detection, but same chance as in 48?) Can you set an alarm to execute a program just a second later? -[]- -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- ==== Hello John, I need something *fast*, because I´m using this in my Begin/Until-Loop at startup, using xPVARS or the SysRPL part of it slows the calculator down unneccessary, but I´dont have enough knowledge in ML to do it myself. That´s the way I do at the moment, placing an alarm via STARTUP and there is a command in the alarm to purge itself, after it ran. This works perfectly but I just thougt, that there is a prettier way... Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Greetings Andreas ==== What is the reason that HP did not seem to have announced the colour changes? Are there other changes as well? Is the newer calculator manufactured in another country (e.g. China)? On 02-04-2002 02:46, in article 3CA8FF78.B2596977@socal.rr.com, Neil Wagner wrote: ==== oki-doki, thanks a lot. now, i got an *evil* thought ( he he he ) out of the subject. i remember a post about an integration that the TI92 did and that Mathematica and Maple were not able to solve. i don't remember the function, but were you able to get back the original function by differentiating the result in the calculator? ( i'll be in the look for flying objects towards my head ) regards o o ' ' ' lalu_bhatt@yahoo.com (Bhuvanesh) wrote in message news:<662e00ed.0204011537.12d768c1@posting.google.com>... ==== rcobo@eng.morgan.edu (rcobo) wrote: Sure. Come on, Mathematica can solve anything (that is solvable)! ;-) In this case, Mathematica *could* solve it, but in terms of a special function called the 2F1 hypergeometric function. The TI-92+ result was valid only for x>=0. Even if you simplified the Mathematica result with the assumption that x>=0, it returned a result in terms of the beta function. As I expected, Maple could not do the integral at all ;-) [I just tried it.] Yes, after simplification (I just checked it again). The integrand was (x^2*(x-1))^(1/3). Flying objects? :-) -- Bhuvanesh ==== Perhaps a vary long period comet? Greetings, Nick. P.S. A moment in a black hole is eternity (for a limited time?), so let's hope that we'll get in. P.P.S. Those said to be dead, live usually longer ;-) area48@hotmail.com (Carlos Marangon) wrote in message news:<2cfc228.0203302206.7cdd4ac3@posting.google.com>... ==== jcmaxwel@hotmail.com (Maxwell) wrote in message news:<7504b14a.0204011408.279a4abc@posting.google.com>... Gooooooooooood news! ;-) Best wishes and congratulations for this small victory :-) Nick. ==== When you bought that machine, did HP tell you that you would receive a copy of the OS? If not, go fly a kite. It is people like you that drive the price of everything up with your frivolous law suits. I have a few older Macintoshes hanging around, should Apple have to provide me with the latest OS? I don't think so.... If so, then I agree, they should supply you with a copy. As far as joining a class action suit against them, no, I'm not interested. I have no desire to install XP on any machine. I am quite content with W98 on one box, W95 on another box, and W2000 on the box I use regularly.... Mark R. John French wrote in message news:csnhaukm31781egqkn4rltgd2ue5p72grk@4ax.com... NNTP-Posting-Host: chigs.deckpoint.ch X-Trace: rex.ip-plus.net 1017761643 11283 194.38.160.137 (2 Apr 2002 15:34:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ip-plus.net ==== John French wrote in message news:csnhaukm31781egqkn4rltgd2ue5p72grk@4ax.com... Hi John, What is the whole story ? J.B NNTP-Posting-Host: dirkdiggler.xs4all.nl ==== I read you have a few older macintoshes lying around. Do you have by any chance System 6 lying around as well? I have two SE30's which have been upgraded with system 7, which is really too heavy for this kind of machines, so I would be really interested in system 6. Or do you know a place where I could download these old systems? Greetings, Eelco P.S. E-mailing to you didn't work...so I post this as a reply... Mark R. wrote in message news:a8cj1b$8s9$1@slb5.atl.mindspring.net... copy Macintoshes don't joining desire ==== hello: who knows how get the limit of a vector on a HP49G example: lim (x,y) (sqrt(2x-y)-2)/(2x-4-y) (x,y)->(0,0) i have tried many posibilities but i just get the message bad argument type thanks and excuse my horrible english. ==== carlosx7@hotmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Alberto_P=E9rez_A.?=) wrote in message news:... Hi Carlos. The information (x,y)->(0,0) is not enough for such limits. You have to specify the path that is followed when x and y are going to 0 and 0. If you for example know that y=2x then you have a path which x and y follow. Or you could parametrize x and y with a new parameter t. If you know such a path then you can substitute this and find the limit, if one exists. Did this make things clear or should I also give an example? Greetings, Nick. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017712647 208.145.205.253 (1 Apr 2002 19:57:27 -0600) Lines: 124 ==== James B. Andersen wrote: I believe that with the constraint 'b=0', you want to minimize Sigma((y-a*x)^2), and that after applying elementary algebra and setting the derivative to zero (the same as deriving the normal least-squares line, but simpler in this case), what you want is: a=Sigma(x*y)/Sigma(x^2) The HP48/49 program for calculating 'a' in this case (taking data points from the statistics matrix) would be: << GSX*Y GSX^2 / >> ----- This has nothing to do with TI vs. HP, but is just a matter of exploring and understanding the material; if automobiles have reduced physical fitness, have calculators reduced mental fitness? Why hasn't the class instructor explored it with your class? I had the good fortune to have two outstanding physicists, Hans Bethe and Philip Morrison, giving lectures in my first year of graduate study. Dr. Morrison, in particular, gave inspiring talks and lectures, without even bothering with notes, IIRC. One day, the lecture topic (in Classical Mechanics) touched upon a problem in the Calculus of Variations; when he saw some puzzled looks around the lecture hall, Dr. Morrison asked how many were familiar with the basics of Calculus of Variations, and when the response was almost nil, he launched immediately into the most perfectly simple, clear and concise impromptu explanation for us, which I believe must have been understood by all. Wouldn't it be good if we all became familiar with the basics? It's said that the act of teaching gives the teacher more knowledge than the student. I would really very heartily recommend that to solidify your understanding of the heart of all your subjects, you grab another student and help him/her with this very thing; by the time you get your student to understand the thing, you'll know it yourself much more deeply than before (and if the student is attractive, it's other fun as well :) Morrison and Bethe: http://www.sigmaxi.org/news&events/Archives/morrison-procter.htm http://www.nobel.se/physics/laureates/1967/bethe-bio.html An open letter from Hans Bethe about weapons of mass destruction: http://www.haverford.edu/math/wdavidon/hans_bethe.html Dr. Bethe's request is a hopeless one, however, until the human race *feels*more*safe* -- and it can only experience this internal feeling of imperturbability if it settles more deeply into the field of its own consciousness. Individuals can do this to a considerable extent for themselves, but for society collectively, its collective consciousness can be influenced only by coherent groups of individuals. Fortunately, it requires only about the square root of one percent of a population to form a coherent group which can generate significant coherence for the entire remainder of the group. This is not a hypothetical statement, but is in complete correspondence with coherence phenomena in Physics. In particular, it corresponds to what percentage of the atoms in a gas laser need to be made coherent for the entire remaining gas to rapidly and suddenly become completely coherent, and might also apply to superconductivity phenomena -- and to consciousness, which was demonstrated in quite a few well-documented studies, the last of which concerned significant crime reduction in Washington DC over the summer of 1993, while about 5000 people simultaneously practiced creating coherent consciousness within themselves, at several sites within and around the district. Coherent consciousness, in turn, is not speculative; it is distinctly evident in brain waves (EEG), and the effects of groups upon others is evident in an observable effect upon others' EEGs. It only takes one square root of one percent (and we are working towards having five times that number, world-wide, to provide a much better margin). You, too, can magnify coherence directly within your own brain, and will experience more coherent thought, more energy, more vibrant health, and more inner security and peace as you do so. As a side effect, this will also positively influence those around you, and this is what will change the world. http://www.mum.edu http://www.tm.org Be part of the solution . -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017717562 208.145.205.253 (1 Apr 2002 21:19:22 -0600) Lines: 64 ==== No one any longer pays attention to -- if I may call it -- the spirit of physics, the idea of discovery, the idea of understanding. I think it's difficult to make clear to the non-physicist the beauty of how it fits together, of how you can build a world picture, and the beauty that the laws of physics are immutable. - Hans Bethe Hans Bethe and the Race for the Superbomb: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/bomb/peopleevents/pandeAMEX50.html Bethe's open letter (again): http://www.haverford.edu/math/wdavidon/hans_bethe.html Philip Morrison: Are we alone? http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/worlds/morrison.html http://web.mit.edu/physics/people/philip_morrison.htm http://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/50s/morrison.html Another Philip Morrison (related?) is a professor of Physics at utexas.edu; I believe that's where Eric Rechlin studies (but Eric's in engineering, not Physics). The Manhattan Project, 1942-1946 Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds http://www.childrenofthemanhattanproject.org/HF/Biographies%20-%20Men/bethe_ cornell_4.htm http://www.dannen.com/decision/ -[]- . -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017721793 208.145.205.253 (1 Apr 2002 22:29:53 -0600) Lines: 69 ==== I meant to add this to the last post, but I was too disorganized :) While I was a student and a teaching assistant at Cornell, I saw a posted notice of a prize offered by a Gravity Research Foundation -- at that time, it was to be awarded for papers on material to shield, deflect, or stop the force of gravity. Being a know-it-all first year graduate student, I thought that this must be a joke (hence today, April 1, is a propitious date for recounting this :) Later on, I was shocked to discover who had entered and won that year's prize -- it was Philip Morrison, my professor of Classical Mechanics, astute lecturer on almost anything, as we who attended his various sorts of public lectures found, and also a nuclear physicist, who had once been a member of the wartime Manhattan Project (which developed and produced the A-bombs dropped on Japan in 1945), and has since become more interested in having humankind not improve its proficiency of mass destruction. The Gravity Research Foundation is still awarding yearly prizes: http://www.synergos.org/globalphilanthropy/organizations/gravity.htm The prize was won in 1959 by a later Nobel Laureate in Economics: http://www.nobel.se/economics/laureates/1988/allais-cv.html http://www.nobel.se/economics/laureates/1988/allais-autobio.html [this may be interesting reading] Our university's founder, who himself took his degree in Physics, has devoted his life since 1958 to teaching the development of consciousness; when there were enough people practicing to create groups of significant size, he predicted the coherence-creating, laser-like effect of such groups in reducing disorderliness, crime and other negative influences in society, which was later verified, including various studies of the effects of such groups which clearly correlated with reducing world tensions and defusing hostilities and, well, wars, both civil and international. When someone suggested, after this became clear, that perhaps our founder should be recommended to the Nobel committee, to be considered for the prize for peace, his response was: Our prize will be *real* peace. http://www.mum.edu http://www.tm.org . -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- ==== In article , James M. Prange wrote: The web page says it is about half way down. I am encouraged that HP still allows entries like this on their website. Sincerely, Bob Corbett ==== you were reaaaaly bored!.. i mean!... the order page and everything! James M. Prange wrote in message news:a8auvo$j93$1@newsreader.mailgate.org... www.hp.com:calculators-product-id=67cx@209.197.117.170/item/product.htm I hope this isn't an April's fool joke! -- Regards, James ==== James M. Prange wrote in message news:... 5*2^5 =160 (didn't use a calc for it! seems i am less ill than i initialy thought!) cheers to jd and all you people Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48 ==== On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 4:17:50 +0200, Robert Corbett wrote (in message ): Then you can be discouraged: this is *not* on their site. The URL: www.hp.com:calculators-product-id=67cx@209.197.117.170/item/product.htm is not hosted by hp.com, but by 209.197.117.170. Everything before the @ is ignored. This little trick is only there to make you think it is hosted by HP. This URL is correctly formed and represent the login/password form of the URL. Everything before the @ is passed to the host which can then choose to use it or ignore it. Here, it's just dummy as you can see if you simply use the URL: 209.197.117.170/item/product.htm Good joke anyway, Jean-Denis ==== James M. Prange wrote: www.hp.com:calculators-product-id=67cx@209.197.117.170/item/product.htm :-) ;-) :-) :-) :-) This reminds me a great joke that some news agencies actually believed!!!! A year ago, newspapers said that a Spanish company had successfully registered a domain name with a ñ. The URl of the website was http://www.españ@yole.com Borja. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017742947 208.145.205.253 (2 Apr 2002 04:22:27 -0600) Lines: 16 ==== www.hp.com:calculators-product-id=67cx@209.197.117.170/item/product.htm No need to actually buy it; Chris Giesselink will already have it in the next Emu48 Service Pack. Dave Hicks must have made a fortune secretly working for HP all this time. The ACO shut down scam really caught TI off-guard, too. -[]- -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- ==== Hello, Well, actually, you are wrong, it's 5*4^5, remember, you can put a different function on a normal shift and the Hold shift like on the HP49! Regards, Cyrille ==== Robert Corbett wrote: The April Fool's Day message in the middle of the page was added later, after several people fell for the joke and tried to order calculators. Dave Hicks, the person who created the fake page, checked with HP before he did it but the people in the HP business store didn't get the message, so they were rather baffled by the customers who tried to place orders. :-) -- Wayne Brown | When your tail's in a crack, you improvise fwbrown@bellsouth.net | if you're good enough. Otherwise you give | your pelt to the trapper. e^(i*pi) = -1 -- Euler | -- John Myers Myers, Silverlock ==== John H Meyers wrote in message news:<3CA98928.DC799A7F@miu.edu>... Will he implement the CTCH and FIRE commands too? ;-) I hope the backspace can abort those... Steve Sousa Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ==== This was a nice one, I already had my credit card out... :) -- Dr. Albert Graef, Dept. of Music-Informatics Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz, Germany Dr.Graef@t-online.de, ag@muwiinfa.geschichte.uni-mainz.de http://www.musikwissenschaft.uni-mainz.de/~ag ==== Hi HPhreaker! Well, it could also be understood as recursion. Something is talking about itself and defines itself with terms of itself. Needful for such things like chaos theorie(s) and other who-needs-that-stuff?-investigations. ;-) Greetings, Nick. ==== Hello Thomas, Thanks for your advice, but I used a SysRPL BEGIN/UNTIL loop in STARTUP. Greetings Andreas NNTP-Posting-Host: uds52-47.dial.hccnet.nl ==== Sorry about that... Caspar Caspar Lugtmeier & Eva Skotarczak schreef in bericht news:a8cn6f$c8n$1@news.hccnet.nl... ==== Hé Lourens, Hier is die link: http://home01.wxs.nl/~visse306/ ook leuk: http://www.mtbroutes.nl/ (routes in nederland) http://www.barracuda.be/jump.html (online webshop) Groeten, Caspar X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 17:20:56 CST ==== Thomas Rast wrote in message news:3CA79C80.61D2A493@freesurf.ch... Just as normal plants modified by several thousand years of civilization have broken into nature. It's hard to find natural apple trees these days. Man had modified genes of the plants and animals since the dawn of the civiliztion through the selective breeding. So called infecting is a natural process of weak gene pool dying out in the competition with the new gene pool. The difference is, that instead of random gene modification it just happen to be man made. In case of natural gene errors that lead to evolution it would sometimes created undesired plants, from certain other plants standpoint. There is always a chance, that some man made plants will have exactly the same effect. Evolution will take care of it :-) Organically grown does not guarantee that the plant itself was not genetically mofdified. It just means, that the farming techniques were used without chemical pesticides etc. I'm fully for marking clearly food as organically grown or gene modified on the food. That has nothing to do if I'm risking my life or not. That just means I have choice. If you can proove particular sickness with particular food, that should be blocked from the market. There are many PROVEN unhealthy food available today such as butter, meat, coffe, tea, etc, that somehow fdo not raise your concerns. Same applies to new interbrreded species of plants, that Europeans produced for the last 2000 years and spreaded around the world. Some of them turned out to be disasterous to the native flora, but in general the world food supply was greatly enhanced because of it. Genetically modified food is now the only resonable solution to the massive African hunger. I haven't heard a single other solution from the people who oppose genetically modified food for poor african countries that could feed their people within their available budget. But that doesn't seem to bother otherwise concerned people. Yes. There is a choice. That is all I'm asking. The risk to the enviroment is same as with natural evolution of species. Evolution does modify genes constantly wether we want it or not. AIDS happen to be one of those undesired. Quite frankly not a single plant today has the same gene pool as the Jurasic time plants :-) Generally the health is rated as a life expectancy. It is in US on the same level as in Western Europe and much higher than in Eastern Europe. As far as I know, due to the recent lack of funding, Eastern Europe has the most organic grown food in the western civilization. Some of them even lack mechanized equipment and still use horses :-) That is my point. Since years Europe is blocking American farming goods, automobiles and electronics and other products by duty fees, but cries faul when US happens to do the same. Quite true. Americans (if not emigrants) rarely know other language, and expect other to know english. I do agree with your oobservation. Of course that has nothing to do with market protection :-) Good for you. I do admire this. That is because it was 3000 American civilians that died in New York, not 3000 Swiss civilians that died in a normal working day in Geneva. I'm sure, that makes a big difference in your attitude. Contrary to you if that would happen in Geneva and Swiss army would decide to attack Afghanistan, I would not thought about the Swiss as imperialists. It is a matter of taste of course. What exactly was neglected ? ???? You mean, negotiating in Geneva is illegal ? Then why you care about Geneva convention ? By your logic it is illegal document anyway :-) I don't blame him. I'm surprised, Swiss do not allow two American to even talk on their soil. That was unheard of even in USSR. The first world war, the second world war. The list can go on and on. Of course Swiss have a rgiht to say that. They did nothing much when Hitler killed 6 milion Jews and milions of others, but at least they were not imperialist. Kyoto protocol was not signed by Bush because it was ans is strongly against US interests and does practically nothing to adress still scientifically unproven problem. The obligation of the goverment is to represent people who elected them. I know, that for many europenas raised on the glorius examples of eastern europe it seems outdated and stupid idea, but that what we call in US democracy :-) And just to name a few, Kyoto protocol is based on the same unproven science as the genetcially modified food danger. That is unfortunately nonsense. Where do you get such news ? Could you poinmt which one, because FBI still have no more leads to find who actually send it ? What a shame that you did rememeber only Jews. Swiss banks had huge sums of money that belonged to other, non semitic people who were killed during second WW. They just happen to have less pressure :-) But what the hell, it nice to be rich when the money just happen to flow to our banks. Who cares, if the money belong to narcotic mafias, or blood bathed tyrannical goverments. As long as US does not pressures ... :-) If you would learn history you would understand, that as long as US went to isolation, Europe was paying with hekatomb of war victims twice in a XX century and was risking even higher genocide under Soviet rule if it wasn't for US involvement. Even recently it was US commiting troops to highly unpopular in US campaign in Balkans clearly because of European demands for help and fear of Europe destabilisation. The last 57 years is the longest peace time in the whole 2000 years of European history and that mainly due to the American involvement. And that is what ? Are you a Nazi sympathizer, or big fan of General Toyo ? Or maybe you are sorry for the Soviet politbiuro ? I know, that a lot of European left thinks, that it is US who destroyed the beautiful world of world communism growing in USSR. I would strongly advice you to try to live in Korea, Cuba or China for some time to better understand, what exactly Americans did to Europe. Jack X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 17:36:18 CST ==== Jean-Denis wrote in message news:01HW.B8CE65FD00D3394902072638@news.noos.fr... Not exactly. The Amazon.com prices are before VAT. It is stated on their web site. But anyway, it still makes the piano cheaper or in a worst case same price in US as in Eurpope :-) shown There is no tax in US when buying online unless online retailer headquaters is in the same state as the buyer :-) Extacly what is significantly cheaper in Europe ? much. You simply don't want to see clear pattern. Check all Intel CPU's prices. Chec all AMD Athlon CPU's prices including those manufactured in Germany. Check digital cameras prices, printers, scanners, hard drives, check Japanese vehicle prices, etc. etc. These are everyday products, that most consumers do spend money. How it is possible, that BMW 540i manufactured in Munich cost exactly the same in United Kingdom as it costs in USA despite being shipped across Atlantic, but it takes at least $5000 more to buy Cadillac Seville in Europe than it takes in USA ? Are BMW ripping customers in England or dumping US market ? You tell me ? Jack ==== has anybody written a vim syntax file for the MASD syntax? if so, where can i find it? thanx -- Hiroshima 45, Tchernobyl 86, Windows 95 ==== I have a new HP49 with version 1.18 and have access to an older one with version 1.9-3 How do I upgrade the new one to 1.9-3? I can't seem to understand the instructions in the ROMUPGRADE command. References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 3639245527.mi.dial.hexcom.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; ==== Virgil wrote: I recommend upgrading both calculators to 1.19-6, available at www.epita.fr/~avenar_j/hp/49.html. -- Regards, James Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ==== Virgil schrieb: ROMUPLOAD actually. It works just the same as if the uploading side was the computer, not a calculator. Connect the calculators with a 49-49 cable, and follow these steps: 1. On the receiver: Hit ON-D [hold ON, hit D]. This beeps and takes you to the Tests menu. Next hold both + and ENTER, and press ON. Now you're in the No System menu. Press 4, the screen goes blank. 2. On the sender: Type ROMUPLOAD and press ENTER (if you haven't done so yet), then press the ANY KEY ;-) The sender now shows XModem Server, while the receiver shows the ROM download menu. 3. On the reciever: Press 1. The two calculators should now both start to transmit/recieve and show their progress. Note that if you're upgrading from an older ROM to 1.19-5 or 1.19-6, you should save your bank 0 contents first. A program which does this is availiable at the URL James mentioned, along with the newest ROM: www.epita.fr/~avenar_j/hp/49.html. Have fun =) Thomas -- Thomas Rast If you cannot convince them, confuse them. -- Harry S. Truman ==== Gents: Does the ROMUPLOAD command exist in ROM version 1.05 to 1.16? Thanks Luis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.145.205.253 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1017737808 208.145.205.253 (2 Apr 2002 02:56:48 -0600) Lines: 144 ==== I thank Gregory Warsewicz-Savage, PE, for posting: I almost agree, but I would look just a bit further into identifying what's missing from the process: We have a complete vertical array of schools on our campus, from grade school through post-graduate, and we have students who have for decades been mostly crime-free, drug-free, well-balanced, enthusiastic and eager to learn, deeply satisfied with their teachers, and have been carrying away state-wide (and higher) trophies and awards for many years, in a wide array of academic, artistic, and athletic competitions. Although I don't have any direct budget information at hand, I think that these are also extremely economically run institutions, unlikely to be overpaying teachers or administrators, nor overspending on purchasing. Would anyone be interested in how this comes about? All students, teachers, and administrators enrich their inner consciousness every day, through group practice of the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi programs of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, which water the roots of the silent, organizing intelligence that is inside us all, out of which blossoms everything else we are. Period. There's nothing else we have or do that other's don't. And we have self-respect, moral conduct, and are law-abiding, without needing force to so become, primarily because the deepening of human awareness, which is consciousness, which is what's alive inside, is the missing element of nourishment that isn't known or recognized or understood elsewhere. As an exercise, see whether you can explain to what you are referring when you use the word I -- What is it? Where is it? How big is it? Does it still exist when you are unconscious? Where did it come from? When did it start to exist? Where will it go when you die? Does it have mass? If not, what are its UBASE units, or can it be material at all? Was it any less when you were a small child, or would it be any less if you lost a limb? Does it change as most of the atoms in your body get replaced many times throughout your lifetime? What makes your I and my I different? Is there nothing in common between my I and yours, or do these have a common source? Where? Can you explain any of this without using the word I itself, as a word still unexplained and undefined? It's another term we use all the time, as if we know what we're talking about, but mostly we have no idea what it really means or is! That's why we are looking everywhere else, in the material world, for something which isn't within the material world. I is something *through* which we outwardly experience, learn, think, feel, and act, but while we are doing so, we do not experience it. When all our *activity* of acting and thinking comes to complete rest, but in a state of complete wakefulness instead of sleep, *then* we experience I directly, and this causes more pure intelligence to manifest within the combination of our awareness with our material component, which together is what walks around and is alive in the world. But I said this all before, perhaps much better: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3BD56139.222431D2%40miu.edu I suppose that now we'd better see whether we know what we mean when we say love or truth :) Truth is within ourselves; it takes no rise From outward things, whate'er you may believe. There is an inmost centre in us all, Where truth abides in fulness; and around, Wall upon wall, the gross flesh hems it in, This perfect, clear perception — which is truth. A baffling and perverting carnal mesh Binds it, and makes all error: and, to KNOW, Rather consists in opening out a way Whence the imprisoned splendor may escape, Than in effecting entry for a light Supposed to be without. [Robert Browning] Group consciousness and enlightenment, as explained by Dante: The love of God, unutterable and perfect, flows into a pure soul the way that light rushes into a transparent object. The more love that it finds, the more it gives itself; so that, as we grow clear and open, the more complete the joy of loving is. And the more souls who resonate together, the greater the intensity of their love, for mirror-like, each soul reflects the others. http://www.mum.edu http://www.tm.org . -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <%Trq8.164339$7b.16621267@bin7.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 18:19:07 CST ==== John H Meyers wrote in message news:3CA5CEEE.FEB35A19@miu.edu... You have a very good point, John. That is why it is never a clear cut between left and right. But becuase I've lived big part of my life on the society is more important than individual side and now I'm experiencing the opposite, I can speak from my personal experience and I'm extremally happy where I'm now. I would still strongly advice people who prefer rule of society over personal freedom to try if first :-) In my opinion not only the left leads to the personal disaster, but also such experiments led to the genocide on the scale far exceeding what Nazis did to the society. Not only the left destroyed so many human beings but also damaged much of the local enviroment, poisoned continents with radioactive fallouts, and other dangerous sustances. If you compare genocide of the left with Nazis, you will openly question why it was Nurenberg for the Nazis but there is none for the left ? Is it because there is still so much left in the opinion creating circles of the western intelligentsia ? It is a poor analogy, but if you really want to know, it is a single cell organisms that is the most succesfull evolution product. Single cell organisms are outnumbering other organisms by a factor of bilions, they exist in the world about 4 bilion years which is 4 times longer than multicell organisms, they are found in far more enviromental niches than multicell organisms and their survival is far more guaranteed in case of massive enviroment change than any other organisms :-) That of course if we all agree to compare people to pile of dumb bricks - see later in your post. Yes, but you make the same intelligentsia (do not confuse with intelligent people - Russian joke) mistake that led to the communism disaster. You assume, that people are dumb as brick and only the choosen one can lead the others. That is exactly the sectret of the massive failure of the left. In general it is the leaders of the left, who are either dumb or criminal or both and they are nopt controlled. Left is always degenrating to the nonsensical tyrany. How many more proofs do you need ? You already had literally dozens of socialist or communist countries that are rotting now in front of our eyes with disasterous and generation lasting effects to their citizens. How can anyone assume, that Marx theories can produce anything beeter. Why is it that people condemn fascism after just one try of Hitler but they still belive in communism after so many failuers that in fact are more horrific than the IIWW and even before the IIWW. Of course. It would be ridiculous to force anybody to accept western examples. That is why it was just one armored divison needed to crush those stupid Chinese students. They simply did not know that Chinese government knows better for them and will steer them in the right direction ;-) Unfortunately Pol-Pot was eliminated by those fooled by the western ideas, but I've heard that Shining Path is back on the rise in Peru :-) Also Fidel is still feeling good. Not all is lost ! That someone obviusly did not worked in Nazi concentration camps, was not imprisoned in Gulag, was not experiencing Taliban rule, was not a Tybetan citizen trying to continue with his religion, etc. Yes, the left is really trying nice to confuse things. And of course, in a great scheme of things, the destruction of Tybetan society probably lies in the interest of the majority of Chinese society. Let's the society rule over individual rights. Jack ==== John H Meyers wrote in message news:<3CA586CC.4C9C9322@miu.edu>... And also mountainpathage outside but not so far from the EU :-) Greetings, Nick.