D14
Nosy is a very good tool, but the up/down scroll should
be a bit \slower...> Maybe the BUSCC can be interpreted by a
future ver. of Nosy???Actually, Nosy *does* interprete the
BUSCC command already (at least,it can display \BUSCC\).
About the byte after, indeed, there isnšt aproper
interpretation...Yoann.====>Nosy is a very good tool, but the
up/down scroll should be a bitslower...>Maybe the BUSCC can be
interpreted by a future ver. of Nosy???>> Actually, Nosy
*does* interprete the BUSCC command already (at least,> it
can display \BUSCC\). About the byte after, indeed, there
isnšt a> proper interpretation...Well if you Ūnd out anything
more about BUSCC parametersI suggest your tell about that
directly to the Author of Nosy====Thanx for everybody
contributing this year, have a great new
year!Kaspaas====Happy Holidays to you as well.Tom Scott====>
When I want to use ->SD-> to> restore from an SD card back to
a port, how do I know what port each> object will be returned
to? Is it always returned to the original> port? If I store
other objects on the SD card, how can I differentiate> the
->SD-> backups from my other objects?> What I was suggesting
is that ->SD-> should create directories Port1> and Port2 on
the SD Card to represent the source port for objects it>
copies to the SD card...The operating system does not support
the creation of directories on theSD-card. This has clearly
been stated in the 49+ docus. Thus, from thecard, ->SD->
transfers the selected Ūles to port2. Itšs your businessto
remember and to MOVE or COPY afterwards the ones you want to
port 1or 0. At any rate, ->SD-> saves the content of all
ports on the card inone keystroke, and this was what people
wanted.It is an extraordinary challenge to program tools
supporting a directorydivision of the SD-card in SysRPL in
such a way that the Ūles of eachdirectory can be handled
separatly. Nobody (except perhaps the HP49+developer) is
presently able to realize this. - Wolfgang====> I currently
have a TI-89 which is getting pretty old. The link portšs>
broken, and therešs a chance it will break soon. I have taken
a look> at the HP-49G+, and it looks pretty cool. I have some
questions,> though...Yes,even at a technology level the TI89
looks old. > How does the Computer Algebra System compare
between the TI and the> HP? The 89 is very natural in how it
works with equations, and Išm> wondering if the HP is less
intuitive, since the CAS was added> separately.It depends.The
TI-CAS is the result of over 20 years of work from the Derive
teamthus from some point of views it is quite powerful.For
example it has from far the most powerful equations and
systemequations solver of all availlable calculators.It is
quite fast for symbolic integrations,etc...Unfortunately TI
hasnšt taken full advantage of the Derive technology.Because
of that and thanks to the work of its authors,the HP49G+
CASis a more powerful and more complete CAS.It has more
functions especially in algebra and linear algebra and ismuch
more ūexible. > How does the speed compare? Especially with
programming--TI-BASIC is> *horribly* inefŪcient, and it also
has some semantic annoyances, such> as the inability to
interact with the user or change global variables> in a
function. (They eliminated side effects of order of function>
evaluation by not allowing functions to change anything.)
UserRPL> seems much more elegant, but Išm really worried
about speed; TI-BASIC> is interpreted, and itšs horribly
slow. I heard that the HP stores> programs as ROM addresses,
so is it faster? Anyone willing to test> and time a couple of
sample programs for me?The userRPL is much faster than
TI-Basic especially on the HP49G+.And you wonšt have all the
annoyances you have with TI-Basic.You donšt have the 32 KB
size limit for algebraic object and the 64 Kbsize limit for
data,texts,etc...You can fully customise the calculator from
the keyboard to the stacksize.You can take screenshot of the
screen.You can redeŪne the virtual size of the graphic
screen.And last but not list you have access to other
applications such asthe Equation writer,the matrix writer,the
text editor,etc... duringthe execution of a RPL
program.Something completely impossible on the TI89.However
for a beginner(and even for an expert),user RPL programs
arenot as easy to understand and to write as TI-Basic
programs.The HP49G+ is also much faster for any kind of
numeric computationsespecially in linear lagebra.Note that
even the old HP48G was faster than the TI89 in this
domain.Additionnaly,the HP49G+ GUI seems lightning fast and
everythinggraphing related should be faster on the HP49G+.>
Does anyone know a good place to Ūnd *all* the commands on
the HP,> organized by usage (not alphabetically) and with
sufŪcient examples> to understand them? The Useršs Manual and
Useršs Guide are very> informative, but they do not have a
full listing of the commands and,> most notably, leave out
the IR/Serial stuff which I would want to play> with. I found
the Advanced Useršs Reference for the HP-49G, but> therešs no
intermmediate document between step-by-step tutorials for>
speciŪc uses and an alphabetical listing of commands.My 89
has actually lasted for much longer than previously expected.
> Išve dropped it so many times I canšt count, and itšs still
working. > The link port broke, but very few people have 89šs
anyway.Anything else I should know about whether to buy one of
these? By the> way, Išm a high school student taking Geometry,
Pre-Calc, and> Calculus.> (Random side note) Does anybody
think it would be possible to write a> program to receive and
execute BASIC programs from TIšs? It would be> great to have a
TI-83+ emulator (TI-BASIC only) on my HP so I could> write
games for friends... ;-)Not yet but perhaps if one could have
access to ARM asm on theHP49G+,he/she would be able to write a
TI83+ emulator. Thomas Tuttle====I believe the 49G+ has a 16
bit processor while the 89 is an 8 bit.(subtract 1 from 0
when in hex mode and count the Fšs) I donšt howuseful this is
for you, but the TIšs canšt do large numbercomputations (such
as 1000 factorial).====> I believe the 49G+ has a 16 bit
processor while the 89 is an 8 bit.The 89 uses a Motorola
68000 equivalent which is a 16-bit bus / 32-bitcomputational
processor. The fact that it canšt do 1000! has nothing to
dowith the number of bits the CPU can handle. It has
everything to do withthe representation of ūoating point
numbers in the interpreter. Even an4-bit processor can
calculate 1000! if the software designers representnumbers
internally to allow such a thing.Tom Lake-- Capaci
Occasio====> I believe the 49G+ has a 16 bit processor while
the 89 is an 8 bit.The 49g+ has a 32-bit CPU which emulates
the Saturn CPU,which is a 4-bit serial computer with 64-bit
registers, 20-bit addr> (subtract 1 from 0 when in hex mode
and count the Fšs) I donšt how> useful this is for you, but
the TIšs canšt do large number> computations (such as 1000
factorial).The MC64000 used in the TI is a 16/32-bit CPUThe
registers are 32-bit, but Išm not wheter the addr is 24 or 32
bit?====> I believe the 49G+ has a 16 bit processor while the
89 is an 8 bit.The HPšs ARM920T chip is 32 bit. (
http://www.hpcalc.org/hp49gplus.php )The TIšs is 16 bit. (
http://richŪles.solarbotics.net/TIInfo.html )====No,the TI89
has a 16 bits CISC CPU and the HP49G+ has a 32 bits RISCC.P.U
which unfortunately emulates the SATURN(unfortunately,because
ifthe HP49G+ doesnšt emulate the HP49G it could have been
much morepowerful both hardware(more memory,better
screen,etc...) and softwarewise).> I believe the 49G+ has a
16 bit processor while the 89 is an 8 bit.> (subtract 1 from
0 when in hex mode and count the Fšs) I donšt how> useful
this is for you, but the TIšs canšt do large number>
computations (such as 1000 factorial).
<91017fd2.0312231325.130e3498@posting.google.com>
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<210c7b91.0312232357.1492d72f@posting.google.com>====Bonjour,
> I believe the 49G+ has a 16 bit processor while the 89 is
an 8 bit.> (subtract 1 from 0 when in hex mode and count the
Fšs) I donšt howIf you only get #FFFFh, then please type: 64
STWS (from memory, nottested), and test your Œtrickš again.--
-----Cšest tout b\.90te mais avec OE 4 je nšarrive plus \.88
envoyer de-+- JC in GNU : Docteur, quand je fais ca, je nšy
arrive pas ! -+-====> those who use Keyman+ for the HP49G+
get a Christmas present: an> updating to version 1.2004. What
is new? The optional assignment> \longhold 0..2\ in More has
been expanded to \longhold 0..3\. Thus,> holding one of these
numeric keys a bit longer launches a correspnding> port
browser. This is the SD-card in case of longhold 3. The>
accompagning 2-page menu covers the basic options to manage
ports or> card...I updated Keyman+ once again. It is obvious
that in default (stack) modea port browser is much better
than a port menu (not only becausebrowsing is faster than
paging). But while programming, port menu accessmay be still
useful. Hence, in edit mode, 0, 1, 2 set the port menu
asbefore. 3 longhold errors since a menu of the card Ūles
doesnšt existand is not easily created as long as 3 PVARS
errors (ROM 1.22).By the way, also Libman+ has been updated.
At the end of the LIB menuyou see the options :0: :1: :2: :3:
which in default mode setcorresponding port browsers instead
of lengthy menus. In particular,:3: is a SD-card browser.
Altogether much faster than port browsing viaa Ūler. -
Wolfganghttp://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/~raut/WR49/index.htm#Keys
====> but indeed I am looking for these boys that are > in
the HP comunity since 1994 or before. As wel as for their
pages, to> link them from my site.> Išll just repeat the
previous post.you can Ūnd the FAQ and ALL the information you
need in HPCALC.ORG,you just have to LOOK for it.Virgilio
Guillen====> Recently I found on this newsgroup a command
CLVAR supposed to delete all> variables in one shot.> All I
get from it is an error message \Non-empty directory\, even
if I \run> it with a just resetted calc (F1+F6+ON)> Can
someone explain how to put this command at work ? (It does
not exist \in> the doc, nor in the HELP, nor in the
CASCMD...)> HerveI use a list to clear unwanted
variables.example{var1 var2 var2 ...}press TOOLS then
PURGEThis is a holdover from using a hp48sx.It is simple,
fast, and safe because it only removes items in
list.---1281====----- Original Message -----had HP41C, CV, CX
failed at certain stage. Nothing lasts forever. So youšvegot
to be prepared to bye a new one sooner or later. $150 is not
much moneythese days. The 41 series keyboard (when new) is
the best ever Išve seen oncalculators. I just wander WHY
CANšT THEY MAKE IT ANYMORE? What changed?keyboard layout and
HP41 keys.Merry Christmas====X> these days. The 41 series
keyboard (when new) is the best ever Išve seenon>
calculators. I just wander WHY CANšT THEY MAKE IT ANYMORE?
What changed?HP48> keyboard layout and HP41 keys.I would not
- for the \HP48 keyboard layout\:the alpha & cursor keys
donšt work at the same time!====Agreed, there is always place
for improvements :)Išm used to the HP48 size and layout; never
used the HP49.> X>these days. The 41 series keyboard (when
new) is the best ever Išve \seen> on>calculators. I just
wander WHY CANšT THEY MAKE IT ANYMORE? What \changed?>
HP48>keyboard layout and HP41 keys.> I would not - for the
\HP48 keyboard layout\:> the alpha & cursor keys donšt work
at the same time!====I thought I had more than $271 tied up
in my 48GX by the time I had theexpansion cards etc. Išd have
paid it again to have a 49g+ of
similarquality.....gladly.Scott> Agreed, there is always
place for improvements :)> Išm used to the HP48 size and
layout; never used the HP49.>X>> these days. The 41 series
keyboard (when new) is the best ever Išveseen>on>>
calculators. I just wander WHY CANšT THEY MAKE IT ANYMORE?
Whatchanged?>HP48>> keyboard layout and HP41 keys.>I would
not - for the \HP48 keyboard layout\:>the alpha & cursor keys
donšt work at the same time!====: > : > How do you get the rom
image onto the SD card? The only downloads I can: > Ūnd are
compressed in a .exe format.: At
www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php3 you will Ūnd a tool
called \cabextract,: which enables decompressing the
rom-images.I got cabextract and was able to extract the
images. I copied them to an SDcard and used sum to verify
that nothing got munged during the copy. the \outputI got
from sum are as follows:# sum hp49g22.bin61755 1264# sum
update.scp33090 1I put the sd card in my 49g+ and followed
the directions. When I indicated \thatI wanted to update from
an sd card I got the following error:NO CARD, OR ERRORCHECK
CARDTHEN PRESS ANY KEYAny ideas??-- Keep working millions on
welfare depend on
you-------------------fwp@deepthought.com====> : : > How do
you get the rom image onto the SD card? The only downloads
Ican> : > Ūnd are compressed in a .exe format. : At
www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php3 you will Ūnd a tool
calledcabextract,> : which enables decompressing the
rom-images. I got cabextract and was able to extract the
images. I copied them to anSD> card and used sum to verify
that nothing got munged during the copy. theoutput> I got
from sum are as follows: # sum hp49g22.bin> 61755 1264> # sum
update.scp> 33090 1 I put the sd card in my 49g+ and followed
the directions. When I \indicatedthat> I wanted to update
from an sd card I got the following error: NO CARD, OR ERROR>
CHECK CARD> THEN PRESS ANY KEY Any ideas??Your script Ūle
indicates probably Œupdate.binš insteadEither rename the Ūle
or change the script Ūle====: > : > How do you get the rom
image onto the SD card? The only downloads I: can: > : > Ūnd
are compressed in a .exe format. : At
www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php3 you will Ūnd a tool
called: cabextract,: > : which enables decompressing the
rom-images. I got cabextract and was able to extract the
images. I copied them to \an: SD: > card and used sum to
verify that nothing got munged during the copy. \the: output:
> I got from sum are as follows: # sum hp49g22.bin: > 61755
1264: > # sum update.scp: > 33090 1 I put the sd card in my
49g+ and followed the directions. When I \indicated: that: >
I wanted to update from an sd card I got the following error:
NO CARD, OR ERROR: > CHECK CARD: > THEN PRESS ANY KEY Any
ideas??: Your script Ūle indicates probably Œupdate.binš
instead: Either rename the Ūle or change the script
ŪleAssuming that the \Script Ūle\ is update.scp. I checked
itšs contentsit contains hp49g22.bin. Itšs in plain ascii
text.-- Keep working millions on welfare depend on
you-------------------fwp@deepthought.com====X> Assuming that
the \Script Ūle\ is update.scp. I checked itšs contents> it
contains hp49g22.bin. Itšs in plain ascii text.I really donšt
know - how about re-formatting the card and starting over?(1st
you back-up the SD to a PC)====: > : > I would love to be able
to. Alas I only have linux, solaris and \irix: > running: > :
> at home and HP only supports windows.: > : Try using the SD
card it should work.: > : > How do you get the rom image onto
the SD card? The only downloads I can: > Ūnd are compressed
in a .exe format.: When you run that .exe Ūle, you are asked
for a path. Then look in: that path and youšll Ūnd the 2 Ūles
you have to copy in the SD card.The problem is that I canšt
run the .exe Ūles as they only work MS osšs.-- Keep working
millions on welfare depend on
you-------------------fwp@deepthought.com====I am wondering
if some program exists, for pc that could safe the healthof
my poor eyes, and my patience and mood when I write this crap
inuser-rpl.I have just dev4x, but it doesnšt seem good:I canšt
understand how to write or edit any program!I remember there
was something like an editor with a few charactersubstitution
for special charactes, like programming brackets, but it wasa
lot of time ago, developed for hp48sx.Thanx and... merry
Christmas :-)====I recently took a 64MB SD card from a
Windows Pocket 2002 PDA to put it inthe HP49G+. I know there
are a lot of *.wma music Ūles on it. The FILEScommand
displays 1344KB available that I imagine is the free space
left bythe music.However I canšt succeed to enter in the card
it self -CHDIR just beeps, andON brings me to te HOME
directory - so I canšt read/delete the content.Moreover, I
have not found any \format\ type of command which would allow
\toreset the card.Any idea on how to blank this card and bring
it to the best format for theHP49G+, only using the calc
itself, will be welcome.Herve====> I recently took a 64MB SD
card from a Windows Pocket 2002 PDA to put it \in> the
HP49G+. I know there are a lot of *.wma music Ūles on it. The
FILES> command displays 1344KB available that I imagine is the
free space left \by> the music.> However I canšt succeed to
enter in the card it self -CHDIR just beeps, \and> ON brings
me to te HOME directory - so I canšt read/delete the
content.> Moreover, I have not found any \format\ type of
command which would \allow to> reset the card.> Any idea on
how to blank this card and bring it to the best format for
\the> HP49G+, only using the calc itself, will be welcome.>
HerveTo enter the SD, you canšt press CHDIR, it tells the HP
to have the SDas current directory and it cannot do it. You
have to go to the Ūlerand press RigthArrow while selecting
the SD or press [3] while in anyport or in Home.To format the
card, press [ON](hold)+[F4], then press 9. Jorge
Cevallos====Super, it worked, thankšs !Too bad all of this
this is so poorly documented...At least it is keeping this
newsgroup up and running :-)Seasonšs Greetings,Herve\Jorge\
<jorge@005.com> a \.8ecrit dans le message de>I recently took
a 64MB SD card from a Windows Pocket 2002 PDA to put itin>the
HP49G+. I know there are a lot of *.wma music Ūles on it.
TheFILES>command displays 1344KB available that I imagine is
the free space leftby>the music.>However I canšt succeed to
enter in the card it self -CHDIR just beeps,and>ON brings me
to te HOME directory - so I canšt read/delete the
content.>Moreover, I have not found any \format\ type of
command which wouldallow to>reset the card.>Any idea on how
to blank this card and bring it to the best format
forthe>HP49G+, only using the calc itself, will be
welcome.>Herve> To enter the SD, you canšt press CHDIR, it
tells the HP to have the SD> as current directory and it
cannot do it. You have to go to the Ūler> and press
RigthArrow while selecting the SD or press [3] while in any>
port or in Home. To format the card, press [ON](hold)+[F4],
then press 9. Jorge Cevallos====> What I was suggesting is
that ->SD-> should create directories Port1> and Port2 on the
SD Card to represent the source port for objects it> copies to
the SD card. That will make clear what does not need to be>
restored, where objects will be restored, and give a method
for> restoring all objects to a port - highlight the
directory and then do> ->SD->.Theoretically, one could tag
the content of a Ūle with the port numberfrom which it stems.
But the ->TAG command need twice as much Temp.Memas the Ūle to
be tagged. E.g., tagging the 112 KB library extable with\2\
needs seemingly over 225 KB free RAM and thatšs not available
ifHOME has about 100 KB. But the best which could be done has
now been done. In the back-transferfrom the card, you may
choose in a browser the port to which theselected Ūles have
to return. Also other small details in Filer5 havebeen
modiŪed (but no version change). -
Wolfganghttp://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/~raut/WR49/index.htm#
General====X> Theoretically, one could tag the content of a
Ūle with the port number> from which it stems. But the ->TAG
command need twice as much Temp.Mem> as the Ūle to be tagged.
E.g., tagging the 112 KB library extable with> \2\ needs
seemingly over 225 KB free RAM and thatšs not available if>
HOME has about 100 KB.Hmm. maybe a ->TAG2 is needed: do
tagging in-place...> But the best which could be done has now
been done. In the back-transfer> from the card, you may choose
in a browser the port to which the> selected Ūles have to
return. Also other small details in Filer5 have> been modiŪed
(but no version change).Wow! Why not a version change?!> -
Wolfgang>
http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/~raut/WR49/index.htm#General====>
XX> Wow! Why not a version change?!-
Wolfgang>http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/~raut/WR49/index.htm#
GeneralI evenforgot the \tag\:====I get my HP49g+ today, and
try to connect it with the connectivity Kit2.1 Build 1588,
but I have some troubles. My pc has Widow XP, withservice Pck
update.When I set \Connect\ the program says \ Looking for
Calculator\ for a few seconds and then says: \ERROR (The
connectivity kis is unable to open communications
to:HPx9G+)\Then I tried with the \Capture calculator screen\
option of theconnectivit Kit and the program says \Setup
Calculator Screen, then on the HP49G+, (...) Press ON plus
up-arrow\I did it and it WORKS, I got a copy of the HP49G+
screen on thepc.?????So ... they are connected but ....Can
someone help me ?? I wish to connet the HP49G+ to the PC but
I amdoing something wrong???DePerez====> I get my HP49g+
today, and try to connect it with the connectivity Kit> 2.1
Build 1588, but I have some troubles. My pc has Widow XP,
with> service Pck update.Go download Build 2118 from HP
Web:http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/
SoftwareDescription.jsp?loc\ale=en_US&lang=English&pnameOID=
351776&prodSeriesId=33568&prodTypeId=215348&b\asePartNum=
COL4344&locBasepartNum=ca-14082-3&os=Microsoft+Windows+XP&
tech=App\licationit will be a whole lot better and it
includes the updated USB drivers (vers \1.1.000)-- - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - -Bill Graves
RKBA!bgraves@ix.netcom.com==== I get my HP49g+ today, and try
to connect it with the connectivity Kit> 2.1 Build 1588, but I
have some troubles. My pc has Widow XP, with> service Pck
update.Did you also install the USB driver 1st?HP pages have
brand new versions of both in a Ūle for the Conn4x====thanks
for the help!but I must say I dont know how to assign two
functions to a \key withkeyman.I have tried to read the
readme, but as my mother lenguage is notenglish, I am afraid
i didn`t understand too much. can you help mewith
that?greetingsEstevo====Conn4X connects Ūne to HP49G+ (latest
version...), but I canšt see the SDcard.Any idea of a tool
which would allow to see the card ?====> ... I canšt see the
SD card.> Any idea of a tool which would allow to see the
card ?You have hopefully ROM at least 1.22. You can browse
the card with theŪler, going Ūrst into TREE. But a much
simpler method is this: LoadLibman from my site below and
customize the LIB key. Then youšll see :0: :1: :2: :3:at the
end of the LIB menu if pressing righshift LIB. These are
portbrowsers. In particular, :3: is the card browser.Išm
still looking for somebody who translates Libman.htm into
French :-)-
Wolfganghttp://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/~raut/WR49/index.htm#
General====>I believe the 49G+ has a 16 bit processor while
the 89 is an 8 bit.The 89 uses a Motorola 68000 equivalent
which is a 16-bit bus / 32-bit> computational processor. The
fact that it canšt do 1000! has nothing to \do> with the
number of bits the CPU can handle. It has everything to do
with> the representation of ūoating point numbers in the
interpreterActually, the 89 keeps integers and ūoats as
different data types. Integers never have decimal points and
never have exponents--if you dosomething huge like 2^32, it
shows all the digits, or inŪnity if itoverūows. Sometime I
will Ūnd the highest integer it can hold... stay tuned.> Even
an> 4-bit processor can calculate 1000! if the software
designers represent> numbers internally to allow such a
thing.But if it has no way to store the answer, then it
doesnšt work...Tom Lake====> >I currently have a TI-89 which
is getting pretty old. The link portšs>broken, and therešs a
chance it will break soon. I have taken a look>at the
HP-49G+, and it looks pretty cool. I have some
questions,>though...Yes,even at a technology level the TI89
looks old.How does the Computer Algebra System compare
between the TI and the>HP? The 89 is very natural in how it
works with equations, and Išm>wondering if the HP is less
intuitive, since the CAS was added>separately.It depends.>
The TI-CAS is the result of over 20 years of work from the
Derive team> thus from some point of views it is quite
powerful.> For example it has from far the most powerful
equations and system> equations solver of all availlable
calculators.> It is quite fast for symbolic
integrations,etc...> Unfortunately TI hasnšt taken full
advantage of the Derive technology.> Because of that and
thanks to the work of its authors,the HP49G+ CAS> is a more
powerful and more complete CAS.Sweet!> It has more functions
especially in algebra and linear algebra and is> much more
ūexible.How does the speed compare? Especially with
programming--TI-BASIC is>*horribly* inefŪcient, and it also
has some semantic annoyances, such>as the inability to
interact with the user or change global variables>in a
function. (They eliminated side effects of order of
function>evaluation by not allowing functions to change
anything.) UserRPL>seems much more elegant, but Išm really
worried about speed; TI-BASIC>is interpreted, and itšs
horribly slow. I heard that the HP stores>programs as ROM
addresses, so is it faster? Anyone willing to test>and time a
couple of sample programs for me?The userRPL is much faster
than TI-Basic especially on the HP49G+.> And you wonšt have
all the annoyances you have with TI-Basic.> You donšt have
the 32 KB size limit for algebraic object and the 64 Kb> size
limit for data,texts,etc...> You can fully customise the
calculator from the keyboard to the stack> size.Sweet!> You
can take screenshot of the screen.Sweet!> You can redeŪne the
virtual size of the graphic screen.Sweet!> And last but not
list you have access to other applications such as> the
Equation writer,the matrix writer,the text editor,etc...
during> the execution of a RPL program.> Something completely
impossible on the TI89.> However for a beginner(and even for
an expert),user RPL programs are> not as easy to understand
and to write as TI-Basic programs.> The HP49G+ is also much
faster for any kind of numeric computations> especially in
linear lagebra.> Note that even the old HP48G was faster than
the TI89 in this domain.> Additionnaly,the HP49G+ GUI seems
lightning fast and everything> graphing related should be
faster on the HP49G+.> >Does anyone know a good place to Ūnd
*all* the commands on the HP,>organized by usage (not
alphabetically) and with sufŪcient examples>to understand
them? The Useršs Manual and Useršs Guide are
very>informative, but they do not have a full listing of the
commands and,>most notably, leave out the IR/Serial stuff
which I would want to play>with. I found the Advanced Useršs
Reference for the HP-49G, but>therešs no intermmediate
document between step-by-step tutorials for>speciŪc uses and
an alphabetical listing of commands.My 89 has actually lasted
for much longer than previously expected. >Išve dropped it so
many times I canšt count, and itšs still working. >The link
port broke, but very few people have 89šs anyway.Anything
else I should know about whether to buy one of these? By
the>way, Išm a high school student taking Geometry, Pre-Calc,
and>Calculus.(Random side note) Does anybody think it would be
possible to write a>program to receive and execute BASIC
programs from TIšs? It would be>great to have a TI-83+
emulator (TI-BASIC only) on my HP so I could>write games for
friends... ;-)Not yet but perhaps if one could have access to
ARM asm on the> HP49G+,he/she would be able to write a TI83+
emulator.> Thomas TuttleDid I mention I think the HP-49G+ is
sweet?====X>Because of that and thanks to the work of its
authors,the HP49G+ CAS>is a more powerful and more complete
CAS.> Sweet!X>You can fully customise the calculator from the
keyboard to the stack>size.> Sweet!>You can take screenshot of
the screen.> Sweet!>You can redeŪne the virtual size of the
graphic screen.> Sweet!>And last but not list you have access
to other applications such as>the Equation writer,the matrix
writer,the text editor,etc... during>the execution of a RPL
program.> Sweet!> Sweet!> Sweet!>Something completely
impossible on the TI89.X> Did I mention I think the HP-49G+
is sweet?Better see your dentist, soon...(-;I like very much
of the task switching ability of the 49G OS - sweet...====>I
believe the 49G+ has a 16 bit processor while the 89 is an 8
bit.> The 49g+ has a 32-bit CPU which emulates the Saturn
CPU,> which is a 4-bit serial computer with 64-bit registers,
20-bit addr> >(subtract 1 from 0 when in hex mode and count
the Fšs) I donšt how>useful this is for you, but the TIšs
canšt do large number>computations (such as 1000 factorial).>
The MC64000 used in the TI is a 16/32-bit CPU> The registers
are 32-bit, but Išm not wheter the addr is 24 or 32 bit?If I
recall, the address is 32-bit internally but the 89 only uses
24bits for its memory, so the most signiŪcant byte is ignored
and/orzero.====>No, a program cannot return values. Thatšs my
only complaint--I want>to split up my programs into
sub-programs for good organization, and I>canšt, for example,
make a separate program that shows a form to the>user to Ūll
in variables and then returns a created equation.Yes, a
program CAN return values!They can return variables, but not
in a syntactic manner. You can
doProgram1(x)Prgmx\\->yEndPrgmand then sayProgram1()Disp xto
show it, but you canšt sayDisp Program1()Itšs not much of a
problem here, but it is very annoying when you wantto make
several programs for different steps in a process that
eachneed data from the previous program. Itšs also slower to
store andretrieve than to just return.> If you donšt declare
variables to be> LOCAL, they persist after the program ends
and can be used by the next> program.Tom Lake====>I believe
the 49G+ has a 16 bit processor while the 89 is an 8 bit.>
The 49g+ has a 32-bit CPU which emulates the Saturn CPU,>
which is a 4-bit serial computer with 64-bit registers,
20-bit addr> >(subtract 1 from 0 when in hex mode and count
the Fšs) I donšt how>useful this is for you, but the TIšs
canšt do large number>computations (such as 1000 factorial).>
The MC64000 used in the TI is a 16/32-bit CPU> The registers
are 32-bit, but Išm not wheter the addr is 24 or 32 bit?It
uses 24 bit addressing-Samuelwww.nyall.net====I shouldnšt
have said anything; these guys know way more than me
:)====The problem is not if there are FAQs available or not
in HPCALC.org orelsewhare, the problem is that many people
desapeared from thisnewsgroup, and I am looking for
them.Carlos> >but indeed I am looking for these boys that are
>in the HP comunity since 1994 or before. As wel as for their
pages, to>link them from my site. Išll just repeat the
previous post.you can Ūnd the FAQ and ALL the information you
need in HPCALC.ORG> ,you just have to LOOK for it.> Virgilio
Guillen====hallo,wer kann mir erkl\.8aren wie man eine
kurvendiskussion mit dem hp49gmachen kann und wie man die
komplette history des plottens l\.9aschenkann? obwohl ich die
history l\.9asche, k\.9annen die alten plotfunktionentrotzdem
aufgerufen werden.danke.====Richtiges Klicken [F1 EIN] [DEL],
Gleichungen zu l\.9aschen. RichtigesKlicken [F1 EIN]
[HINZUF\.86GEN] zu hinzuzuf\.9fgen neue Gleichungen., Sie.
\>wer kann mir erkl\.8aren wie man eine kurvendiskussion mit
dem hp49g>machen kann und wie man die komplette history des
plottens l\.9aschen>kann? obwohl ich die history l\.9asche,
k\.9annen die alten plotfunktionen>trotzdem aufgerufen
werden.====May fond memories, shared joys, and exciting plans
be yours today andthroughout 2004!-Joe-====Best wishes to you
and everyone who posts to this group. Happy Holidays!Rod>
Thanx for everybody contributing this year, have a great new
year!>====