D-169 == Just buy the HP49G !!! There is much more than just the MetaKernel49, etc...libs [VPN] news:Bj1C7.770$xS6.1198@www.newsranger.com... a 49G How you 0 two of From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 < 25. 30. GCD gives an integer 5 as a result, without changing the mode. I would have given 5. but I think 5 is ok, too ;-). 25. 30. LCM gives an integer 150 as a result, but it is change the calc to exact mode. And it clears flag -123, when it was set (== Forb. Switch Mode). What does it mean, please: Forbidden Switch Mode? 150 FACTOR gives 150. FACTOR is only working in exact mode with an integer as an input :-( I think, functions for HP-integers should work for integer-reals as well. Appreciate your comments Heiko From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 This flag should prevent the calclulator to switch modes. Obviously you fing another bug. Veli-Pekka From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 19:10:34 +0100 Organization: and X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141701 Hi When I have drawn it and pressed the soft cancel, but it shows all the \ equation Y1(X)=2*X. I have not this \bug\. Time To Paws wrote: From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141668 denis martinez wrote: Hi Denis, hi all Denis meanwhile analysed MASD more deeply. In the most general case, it is unable to recompile some decompiled code to its original. Modifying asm code without possessing its full source can seemingly be carried out only by specialists. Also, it seems to be impossible at present to use flag 4 for MASD in the same way as it can be used in JAZZ. Code objects occurring inside a SysRPL program must be disassembled locally, i.e., extra. Global and uniform disassembling/reassembling as with JAZZ is a problem in MASD. I renamed the rompointer Sys~ in OT49 (version 3.2002) to MDA~ (MASD disass/ass toggler) but resigned from using a flag. MDA~ now also handles pure asm code in the limits of the MASD capabilities. Maybe Emacs is able to modify asm occurring inside a SysRPL object, at least to some degree. - Wolfgang From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141689 Thanks, Nick the Greek !!! [VPN] X From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141686 news:cd9ca36b.0110260128.3db751fa@posting.google.com... X Nope! The CAS (read:Bernard Parisse) surely knows what flag to change before that fkag is changed, so it can saved and later restored. X [VPN] From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141661 Thanks, this is useful to know. I'll note this on the wishlist for a while, and then probably remove the item once people are more well-informed about it (unless people already are). --Rahul Hore' From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141662 So, you believe the addition of libraries is a better choice? I believe, in a sense, this is not suitable for some things, but I do see your point. The reason some of these things have been suggested as additions to the ROM is that (1) it will be fully integrated into the system, and (2) if I recall correctly, the commands will be, in general, noticeably faster this way (please someone more knowledgeable on the subject correct me if I'm wrong about this). This is true. Do you think the release of optional ROMs would be a plausible solution? Reasons for including additions to the ROM are same as above. In an additional statement, most of what comes to us in libraries is fine where it is (and by the way, installing libraries add all its commands to the CATolog so your argument about cluttering CAT with new commands is essentially flawed -- solution: use RPLCPL). Furthermore, I would be willing to scratch off anything from the list that people find satisfactorily implemented in a library and not necessary to include in the ROM, e.g. a full-blown programming editor like Emacs. I'm glad it is useful to at least someone! With regards to \outrageous desires,\ do you see any on my list? I agree some of them would be difficult to implement like say, generalized hypergeometric functions or symbolic products, but I believe most of these requests are reasonable and would be wonderful additions to any CAS. Please, if you see something that you don't think should be on the list, tell me and I'll see what others think and remove it according to general consensus. That's why I post it here--I'm looking for people's opinions on what should be relegated to ROM and what should stay as a library. This can always be debated. I believe that there was a similar debate on this newsgroup not too long ago about moderating comp.sys.hp48 itself. I, for one, cannot say *by myself* that such and such cannot be on the wishlist, but this and that can be. The reason for this is simple: this is not my wishlist, but the entire HP 49G community's wishlist. I will gladly moderate it provided that others can give me a valid reason for removing something (note, there are things on this list that I don't much care for, but that doesn't mean I can just ignore them). I do not want this to be just some arbitrary list, but a series of goals to attain to make the HP 49G calculator even better. And my goal is to facilitate this by making sure everyone knows what everyone else wants. Making my wishlist widely accepted, of course, is the challenge. Thank you very much. I enjoyed your comments thoroughly (and as you can see by the length of this thread minus my posts, you are not the only one who is wary of wishlists :-). If you have any further suggestions or would like to add to the list, do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks again, for your input. --Rahul Hore' From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Oh, come now--I've always wanted this! Okay so it's not too useful to most, but *I* could find some uses for it. :-) Luckily the aforementioned library has this functionality. I agree. Do you think I should remove it from the list? [snip] Same here. This is one of VPN's suggestions, if I'm not mistaken. Agreed. I'm one of those that doesn't really need too much autosimplification; it seems fine to do this on one's own, but I'm sure there are people who disagree, so I'm not removing this from the list just yet. If you're responding to item 14, I believe this was Keith Farmer's idea. I think at one time he had something of the sort implemented for the 48. Maybe I should bug him and see if he's interested in porting it to the 49. [snip] Agreed. I suppose CdB is who we ask for this. Sure, why not? [snip] Yes. I have grown accustomed to the HP way. I'm even slightly disappointed at using e instead of EXP in EQW! That's a good question. I'll have to search the archives to find out about this. Could it refer to displaying fractions as on earlier HP models (of which I have no idea about)? [snip] Agreed. I'm not too wild about keeping this on the list, but I'll leave it on for now. No. You should guess that VPN has an HP 41! :-) Wolfgang Rautenberg's suggestion; not terribly important to me, either. [snip] I said 1 user bank just to be conservative. I have so much extra ROM memory remaining, it's kind of ridiculous. It might as well be put to some good use. [snip] This would certainly be nice. --Rahul Hore' From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141673 news:698661a1.0110272119.1c4d9851@posting.google.com... useless Yes, there are things that doesn't make sense if they're not integrated in the system; on the other hand libraries are a modular way to approach the problem, and should be kept in consideration. Sometimes libraries are more cleverly built than the built-in commands, and achive higher performance; the choice of the algorithm in Matrix49 was clever and it pays off for general use. average need, Never heard of such a thing... what is it supposed to be? I believe it's flawed: remember that the average newbie will not start installing more libraries (thus his catalog's size will be minimum). OTOH the average user will install what he likes and generally will have no problems with a longer CATalog. CAT is supposed to be a tool for newbies, and cluttering it will decrease its usefulness. RPLCPL is a great tool that I use everyday, when I *already* know which command I need, or at least I remember the first letters... CAT provides a higher point of view when I can't remember the name. Yes that's an uttermost interestingly approach to the problem. Not \ removing, though, but pointing out which library will be useful. This way you avoid the problem of ppl repeatedly submitting the same wish, and you also provide a sort of \best programs\ service to the readers. When I say outrageous, I mean \modifications that need too much time to be implemented\. It's quite a flexible solution, because the good ppl at ACO don't seem to have much spare time to work on the 49 anymore. oh, well, consider that many of the things that were requested exceed by \ far my mathematical knowledge, in so much that I don't even know what the hell they are asking for :) [moderated wish-list] You may be interpreting my words in a way they were not intended to, as I only meant pondering wishes just like you're already doing :) Some ideas may be fascinating, I know, but one should always ponder and try to understand whethere it's a realistic wish, or just a dream. Thanks to you for your commitment :) have a nice sunday From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 But not for me! 1/3 are mine I think :-) X The HP39/40 has a special FRACTION display mode. Re-flash your HP49G and try it out, than you will see the light!!! No, no, no! It's not the same! The Alarms that start programs don't run them as subroutines (forcing a new Virtual Stack Environment) but simply display as a message. I'm looking for more like the commands in the HP-75C, HP-71B and the HP-41CX Correct !!! VPN - a :-D user of a HP-41CX (one working, three down :-( From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141667 Does this \largest amount\ even exist? Well, my diffy is But I suggest to write a program yffid, which is the inverse of diffy: for a given list, say {1 2 4 5}, find a second list L s.t. L diffy yields {1 2 4 5}. (Here L could be L := {1 0 2 6} or {5 6 4 0}.) -- -= Key fingerprint = 74 FD 0A E3 8B 2A 79 82 25 D0 AD 2B 75 6A AE 63 -= PGP public key (0xE0A5731D) available on request. =--------------- From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141688 news:cd9ca36b.0110260137.1bb2d96e@posting.google.com... X X thanks & thanks but they do, others may clean their brains with Vodka (and no, I didn't vlean my HP49G prior to the BORG accident) Yes and no: sometimes it's used by it's own, so it is indeed a name that can be used separately. I can't remember any only_prefix_first names.. Greekkings Adelfos-Petros From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141681 news:cd9ca36b.0110260442.5d6aa1f3@posting.google.com... X Exponential Curve? (I sometimes even disagree with myself ;-) Sure! X Yes! Do you know how many different christian churches there are? X Well, the wages of sin is death. That's what I meant. But your thought are well received anyway. X But after all, since years, decates, centuries, centennials passed by the believers of Manitu \The Great Spirit\ maybe right after all... They just don't have the Bible to refresh their memory?! Yes, but I still see it as saving someones eternal soul from Hades/Hell/Gehenna X X You are right! Now I finally got your point. X I can't tell exactly. First, there hasn't been a new film from Monty Python for ages 2. I easily mix up Monty Python & Mel Brooks 'cause they're both ~ grazy III) I have not seen any gallup about the popularity of MP (nor MB) greetings, Brother Peter PS: Joe said \no thanks\ From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141682 news:cd9ca36b.0110260453.68fd9cea@posting.google.com... X X I use overstrike... Veli-Pekka From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141655 Die B\237cher Volume 1 und 2 gegen Gebot abzugeben. MfG Joaquin Enriquez Beltran From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141666 I spent a good deal of time working on a program called Daily Bible for the hp49. The current version has some problems, and in particular needs a new (ML would be nice) calendar. I don't have the time right now to fix the problems or try to write a better version. It has great potential. I would like to know if anyone is interested in revising the code. I have recieved several emails from users that have expressed interest in a new version. Would anyone be able/willing to take on the Daily Bible project? Of course, I am willing to help out as much as I can. Please email me if you are interested. Thanks. -Hp49er@hotmail.com From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48 Subject: Re: Beta testing of Xcell 2.0 for the HP49G (from Daniel Lopez \ Sancho) Lines: 48 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141654 Sorry Colin, I don't know enough to confirm that this is feasible. But, Xcell uses a quite a few unsupported entries which make the port to the 39/40 uncertain. Alain 3BD802D0.C6F1F6EE@iinet.net.au... as Daniel to testers the 48 From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141658 Apparently Tim Wessman is thinking of having a go. Can you point me in the direction of some documentation on Xcell so that I \ can see what it does? I'm assuming from the name that it is a spreadsheet \ style tool? That's why I'm interested - adding spreadsheet capabilities will \ enhance the calc as a teaching tool immensely. Alain Robillard wrote: -- Colin Croft \Old mathematicians never die; they just lose some of their functions. \ ====================================== Applications in Mathematics ccroft@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~ccroft/ ====================================== From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141660 If I have enough time. Chemlab comes first. TW ~The enemy's gate is down. From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48 Subject: Re: Beta testing of Xcell 2.0 for the HP49G (from Daniel Lopez \ Sancho) Lines: 91 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141699 Collin, this is the link to the desciption file for Xcell48 version 2.0 http://www.hpcalc.org/viewzip.php?id=93&file=XCELL48v20.txt Alain 3BDB778B.F2D8ACE6@iinet.net.au... can style enhance uncertain. HP39/40G like available on not \ From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 18:54:24 +0100 Organization: and X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141700 Hi all, I think this is a bug and not a feature. I`m using the ROM 1.19-6 1. Write this equation in the stack: A*EXP(-D*X/C)+B*SIN(X*W)+A*COS(X*W) 2. Load the equation in the EQUATIONWRITER. 3. Take the lim command to calculate the limit X= infinity 4. Press ENTER and EVAL it. After a moment the calc makes a reset. From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141703 I don't think restaring for no reason is ever a feature. . . ;-) I worte it in the EQW and then evaluated. ASked to switch to approximate \ mode, then gave an unsigned infinity error and restarted. TW ~The enemy's gate is down. From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 19:42:22 +0100 Organization: and X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141704 Hello, When I do all in the stack, it returns also the unsigned infinity error. It makes only a reset when you do the same, as I wrote in the first post. Tim Wessman wrote: From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141696 Hi, Anybody know what the problem is with the CalcPro Web site? It complains about certificates and I can't look through the catalod without errors. www.calcpro.com Jim Klein From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141672 Thanks for the \over-qualified\. Anyway, I would willingly translate it in Portuguese, just send the files to my e-mail. I could try translating that in Esperanto, too, but I'm not so good speaker of that language. -- If you know the answer to a question, don't ask. -- Petersen Nesbit Eduardo M Kalinowski ekalin@bol.com.br -- **Novo e-mail** **New e-mail** http://move.to/hpkb From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141656 Copy worked great, thanks! Jason news:3BD648B4.76E3D0D6@jps.net... From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141652 Julian I want to start different directories for subjects that I will build onto \ as I create new programs such as for chemical engineering and other subjects. My reason for port 2 is it is the safest memory location. I have not \ thought of any alternatives since I do not know enough about the calculator yet. larry news:76ea4fd3.0110261938.5638b4fe@posting.google.com... and have There From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141678 Put everything into a single compacted file and send it to port 2... You can Use the BZ or TNT, I like TNT cos the compactation level is better \ than BZ. It's safe and save a lot of memory :] DanieL. From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141650 Thanks, Roman. I tried the method you mentioned. It works for some equations but not all. Sometimes, after I enter the values for other variables, and press L-shift-unknown, an error message popped up saying \RCL Error: Undefined Name\. I don't know why. First I thought maybe I should give the unknown a guess value, but after that when I pressed L-shift-unkown again, the calc had no response. Also the result seemed not showing up on the stack level. Would you please advise? Thanks! Lin From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48 Subject: Re: Equation Libraries Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 12:51:35 +0100 Lines: 90 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141676 Hi Lin, Maybe I wasn't clear enough about the keys to use. You have to press \ L-shift and then press the function-key below the unknown you want to solve for (soft-menu). You should not get an \RCL-Error\ by doing it this way. In \ case you give not enough values to solve the system you should get a message \ like \Error: Too many unknowns\. And also should the value of the unknown you solve for be put on the stack (In case MSLV is able to solve the \ equations). But you can also bring (back) the values on the stack by pressing R-shift-(function-key). As above but R-shift! I think you are probably \ using an old ROM-version. AFIK the first Rom-versions weren't able tu use MSLV. You can check this by typing \version\ (CAT-Menu). The latest Rom-Version \ is \1.19-6\. If you have an old Rom-version you should make an update to the newest Rom. If you can't (If you don't own a connectivity-kit) you may want to check if your Rom-version is causing the problem. I can't remember by which Rom-version \MSLV\ was first possible. But try to solve the following system (without equl49). RPN-version: ['X^2-3*Y=2' '8*X-3*Y^2=0] ['X' 'Y'] [0 0] MSLV ALG-version: MSLV('[X^2-3*Y=2','8*X-3*Y^2=0]','[X,Y]','[0,0]') (You can find MSLV in the \NUMSLV\-Menu or with the CAT-key. But maybe \ the command didn't even exist in the first Roms, I can't Remember.) The HP49G should be able to solve the system above. (You shoud get \ something like [.1623..,-.6578...] ) If not you may have to purge the 'X' and 'Y' variables first to make sure they don't have already some values. If it still doesn't work the (old) Rom-version might be the problem. You can also check this by looking on the changes on the different Rom-version at www.hpcalc.org . Hope this helps, Greetings Roman news:73e7f863.0110271539.2e90324b@posting.google.com... choose can by be From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141649 Thanks, Peter. I'll go look at it. Also want to apologize for posting the same message twice. I didn't see my post immediately, so I thought I didn't submit it. Regards, Lin From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141679 Can you execute SysRPL from within ML more than once during a program? From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141694 On 28 Oct 2001 04:13:43 -0800, NeyT@dnr.qld.gov.au (Timothy Ney) wrote: This question has come up before a few times. Here are some links to previous discussions : http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=0Wmj7.500%24P4.3144%40www.newsranger.co\ m http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=99pkhv%248ls%241%40fizban.solace.mh.se http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=jvk43t4c7g396cs5am0tfe6opnt6odejap%404a\ x.com Here's a method based on the above code from Werner Huysegoms that lifts the burden of having to include the necessary support code every time you want to jump into RPL : ASSEMBLE STARTRPL MACRO GOSUBL startrpl CON(5) =DOCOL RPL ENDM ENDRPL MACRO COLA ASSEMBLE CON(5) =DOCODE REL(5) end ENDM CON(5) =DOCODE REL(5) end . . Assembly stuff goes here. . STARTRPL \RPL Segment 1\ FlashMsg ENDRPL . . More assembly stuff. . STARTRPL \RPL segment 2\ FlashMsg ENDRPL . . And yet more assembly. . startrpl C=RSTK A=C A PC=(A) end Make sure the RPL pointers are in the CPU before using STARTRPL. Hope this helps... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------ Remove the random permutation of \HPRULES!\ from my e-mail address before replying. From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141675 news:cd9ca36b.0110150809.19790cc4@posting.google.com... I've uploaded yesterday a complete document regarding the HP49G flags at hpcalc.org. It's in PDF format, and I think you've to wait at least until monday to download it from Eric's web-site; the future URL should be: http://www.hpcalc.org/hp49/docs/misc/flags10.zip The document Nick point you was one of my main point of reference, but unfortunately was incomplete. It was a NG post, if I'm not wrong, so it wasn't born as a reference document as mine. So if you like have a look to my work also. Regards, Kickaha From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141698 I doubt you will be able to repair it. The 28 is not meant to be taken apart without distroying it. If you really like the 28, I would suggest ebay. Charles Perry P.E. news:3BDA35F7.1A6BA4CC@ottawa.com... From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141705 it may be in the key pad connector (i never seen any taken apart) you can try this: 1- press firmly with your fingers on the calc (massage). or, 2- if they don't have an orifice (battery ?), drill a small hole in each \ piece ( i.e. bottom of calc) and blow compressed air in the hole (burst). 3- last resort: try to open it (to clean connectors). if nothing does, get \ a razor blade knife and start cutting (edge). it ain't nothing that cannot be opened ;) good luck says... From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141659 If you go to my FAQ page you will find documentation on the DISPXY command (question #64). -- Colin Croft \Old mathematicians never die; they just lose some of their functions. \ ====================================== Applications in Mathematics ccroft@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~ccroft/ ====================================== \Micha³ Niechwiej\ wrote: From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141665 news:tfbmtt8v2sbk5od0iu4h5t3f46d36b77pq@4ax.com: Took a look at that one. The interface doesn't look too familiar. Besides, \ I just found out that there is a emulator for WinCE for the HP48/49. Now, the question is would there be something similar for the Palm? Cheers, Vince From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141695 What is the link to it? Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141684 My neighbor has the 48G, and I have the 48SX. I am really suprised at the extent of differences. The SX is easy to set modes, and nearly all \ functions are right were you would logically think they should be. The G seems to be missing the intuitive feel of function location and modes? For instance, the \ G owner is in high school, and just starting to get into matrix math. I \ thought I would demonstrate the DETerminant function. Can not find it??? I guess I \ need to look through his manual, but I am really suprised at this. Is there any \ good function maps for both calcs side by side, for comparison? thanks From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141690 Just by a HP 49G and you'll never find a function again. That is - unless you use Wolfgangs KEYMAN49 [VPN] news:20011028085246.22526.00000258@mb-mn.aol.com... functions the G thought I need good From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141697 9rh4ld$eum$1@news.kolumbus.fi... Oh man, that's so true. But maybe because I'm a 48 user. I find my 48G easier to use as an 48S too, so it depends on which one you use.... Anyway, DET and every other matrix related command is under the key MTH -MATR. To get it press MTH then MATR NORM DET. But you can always type it if it's hard to find. cybernesto the be any From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141677 Hi to the NG. I simply post to announce that I've finished the flags list in PDF for the HP49G which I hope is really comphrensive of all the related stuff. I've uploaded to www.hpcalc.org, and I hope someone can have a look to tell me what he/she(?) think of the work. Have fun! Kickaha From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141687 news:EDRC7.19625$Qj6.1409400@news.infostrada.it... Hello! I'd be glad to review your document, please mail it to me so I can print it out ASAP :) From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141664 A while back (like, 1994) I posted the same question as to how to make a directory in CST look like a directory would when created in the VAR menu. It was something with a SYSEVAL, but then again it's been 7 years since \ I've thought about this. My calculator recently lost it's memory and I'd like \ to recreate these graphic objects in the CST menu. Thanks in advance, Matt From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 11:05:29 +0100 Reply-To: t.rast@freesurf.ch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [de] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i586) X-Accept-Language: de-CH, de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141670 Matt wrote: grob ), take care not to feed it anything else. It turns the string into a grob for menu display, with the little bar above that marks it as a directory. Thomas -- Thomas Rast \If you cannot convince them, t.rast@iname.com confuse them.\ ICQ# 103670088 -- Harry S. Truman From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 11:11:29 +0100 Reply-To: t.rast@freesurf.ch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [de] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i586) X-Accept-Language: de-CH, de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141671 I wrote: That's the 49 address, sorry! Since I guess there weren't any 49s in 1994, here's the 48G address, from XREF49.TXT: #3A3EC. Thomas -- Thomas Rast \If you cannot convince them, t.rast@iname.com confuse them.\ ICQ# 103670088 -- Harry S. Truman From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 -123 SF [VPN] Thomas' From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141693 Ok try this eqn in Hp49, 5*(1-EXP(-0.2*X)).....it works in my hp48 but I do not see it draw the plot in my hp49. Why? Also how do you use the 'limit' function? I put an expression on level 2 \ and then x=some number on level 1 but it does not work. thanks larry From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141653 Hey Tim Where and for how long are you going anyway? larry news:0HrC7.2427$xS6.3109@www.newsranger.com... . . From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141657 All of these are true in the EQW as well, so you don't need RPN for these. I am the exception, then, I suppose :-) I use both algebraic and RPN. Bhuvanesh. From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 10:51:14 +0100 Reply-To: t.rast@freesurf.ch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [de] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i586) X-Accept-Language: de-CH, de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141669 Tim Wessman wrote: RPN is extremely dangerous!! ;-) I've used it since I have my HP, about for a year. Now I've got trouble trying to correctly parenthesize an algebraic expression to feed it into the TIs or the computer, and also to say \sqare root of x plus y\ instead of \x plus y, then take square root\. Does that matter?? There's no difference between using SPACE and ENTER in this case. Same number of keystrokes, same result. (Well, the CMD history will look a bit different.) Thomas -- Thomas Rast \If you cannot convince them, t.rast@iname.com confuse them.\ ICQ# 103670088 -- Harry S. Truman From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 It looks different to me! Because if you enter a dozen of objects and then press enter, the process of checking for syntax correctness and putting \ them on the stack is made all in a run, and that seems to take less time than doing step by step. Also it may be more confortable 'cos you can check for and correct typos more easily... when objects are on the stack, the number of objects you see is lower, and correcting an object on level 4 is slower than just going \ back and editing it on the command line. From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141702 Not only can more things be ing CMD, but it also is a little faster because \ the display is upodated only once instead of four times. TW ~The enemy's gate is down. From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141648 Yeah man continue the good work ! By the way is there a pop email reader ? Thx in Adavnce ! MAt 3bd6b719$0$32594$626a54ce@news.free.fr... From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141651 On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, M. 'Anarchy' Lopez wrote: Some sort of one is provided with Usinagaz. See http://youpibouh.thefreecat.org/info/prog/48inet.html for more information. -- Samuel Thibault From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999 Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com comp.sys.hp48:141706 When I try to connect my hp49 to the PC using HPcomm, it comes back and asks me to make sure and set the calculator in server mode (of course it already is) However, when I use kermit.exe or emu48 have no problem. When I switch PC's I get the same problem. I have used HPcomm without problem in the past. It is as if there is some setting on my hp49 which keeps it from conncting. When I start HPcomm there activity on the calculator screen as if it is going to connect but in the end fails. This is a really strange problem, I cannot imagine what it could be causing it. Please help Thanks; Luis