HP-209 Subject: Foring SD Card Confusion So I managed to corrupt my SD card. When I pressed ON F4 9, the format failed. I plugged the sucker into my computer and fored it. Then it would not work in my 49g+,but.......ON F4 9 successfully fored the dang thing. Is there anything definitive on this? Why couldn't the calculator format its own card? I assume that my Toshiba laptop fored to FAT32 and the calculator refored to FAT16? Anyone know about this? === Subject: Re: Foring SD Card Confusion I had to do this once, too. My card got corrupted by a bad usb reader, and my calculator would only format it at half the capacity. I got a new reader and refored on my PC, and everything was ok. > So I managed to corrupt my SD card. When I pressed ON F4 9, the format > failed. I plugged the sucker into my computer and fored it. Then it > would not work in my 49g+,but.......ON F4 9 successfully fored the dang > thing. > Is there anything definitive on this? Why couldn't the calculator format its > own card? I assume that my Toshiba laptop fored to FAT32 and the > calculator refored to FAT16? Anyone know about this? > === Subject: Re: Foring SD Card Confusion > I had to do this once, too. My card got corrupted by a bad usb reader, > and my calculator would only format it at half the capacity. I got a > new reader and refored on my PC, and everything was ok. > So I managed to corrupt my SD card. When I pressed ON F4 9, the format > failed. I plugged the sucker into my computer and fored it. Then it > would not work in my 49g+,but.......ON F4 9 successfully fored the dang > thing. > Is there anything definitive on this? Why couldn't the calculator format its > own card? I assume that my Toshiba laptop fored to FAT32 and the > calculator refored to FAT16? Anyone know about this? X It looks like the calculator can't format a CORRUPTED card easily === Subject: Re: Foring SD Card Confusion > I had to do this once, too. My card got corrupted by a bad usb reader, > and my calculator would only format it at half the capacity. I got a > new reader and refored on my PC, and everything was ok. > So I managed to corrupt my SD card. When I pressed ON F4 9, the format > failed. I plugged the sucker into my computer and fored it. Then it > would not work in my 49g+,but.......ON F4 9 successfully fored the > dang > thing. > > Is there anything definitive on this? Why couldn't the calculator format > its > own card? I assume that my Toshiba laptop fored to FAT32 and the > calculator refored to FAT16? Anyone know about this? > It looks like the calculator can't format a CORRUPTED card easily > objects with filer, they looked like they were all binary code, at least not the usual ASCII. This occurred when I was trying to copy files to the PC. Anyway, the 49g+ would not format at all. === Subject: Re: Foring SD Card Confusion try [ON]+[D] and then [7] after that everything is ok, at least with my 49g+ > I had to do this once, too. My card got corrupted by a bad usb reader, > and my calculator would only format it at half the capacity. I got a > new reader and refored on my PC, and everything was ok. > > > So I managed to corrupt my SD card. When I pressed ON F4 9, the format > failed. I plugged the sucker into my computer and fored it. Then > it > would not work in my 49g+,but.......ON F4 9 successfully fored the > dang > thing. > > Is there anything definitive on this? Why couldn't the calculator > format > its > own card? I assume that my Toshiba laptop fored to FAT32 and the > calculator refored to FAT16? Anyone know about this? > X > It looks like the calculator can't format a CORRUPTED card easily > > objects with filer, they looked like they were all binary code, at least not > the usual ASCII. This occurred when I was trying to copy files to the PC. > Anyway, the 49g+ would not format at all. === Subject: Re: Foring SD Card Confusion > try [ON]+[D] and then [7] > after that everything is ok, at least with my 49g+ > I had to do this once, too. My card got corrupted by a bad usb reader, > and my calculator would only format it at half the capacity. I got a > new reader and refored on my PC, and everything was ok. > > > So I managed to corrupt my SD card. When I pressed ON F4 9, the > format > failed. I plugged the sucker into my computer and fored it. Then > it > would not work in my 49g+,but.......ON F4 9 successfully fored > the > dang > thing. > > Is there anything definitive on this? Why couldn't the calculator > format > its > own card? I assume that my Toshiba laptop fored to FAT32 and the > calculator refored to FAT16? Anyone know about this? > X > It looks like the calculator can't format a CORRUPTED card easily > > > the > objects with filer, they looked like they were all binary code, at least > not > the usual ASCII. This occurred when I was trying to copy files to the PC. > Anyway, the 49g+ would not format at all. === Subject: Re: connection Make sure that FLAG 33 is UNchecked (Transfer via wire) That one bit me, too. John, out! ******** | plug it in and they are connected :) | dont press on and right arrow at the same time but one by one | | > hi | > no er what i do i cant get the g+ to communicate with the USB cable | > any hint? | | === Subject: Re: HP 49G+ Keyboard vs. TI 89's > Which keyboard is considered to have better quality, putting layouts > aside? Does the TI 89 miss keystrokes and if so, is it more or less > frequent than the 49G+? The TI keyboards, especially on the new Titanium series, are light-years ahead of any current HP. Sad, but true. === Subject: Re: HP 49G+ Keyboard vs. TI 89's > Which keyboard is considered to have better quality, putting layouts > aside? Does the TI 89 miss keystrokes and if so, is it more or less > frequent than the 49G+? > The TI keyboards, especially on the new Titanium series, are light-years > ahead of any current HP. Sad, but true. 1) True, if you consider the missing keys problem 2) False, if you consider the mushy touch 3) False if you consider the layout 4) False if you consider the ALPHA & cursor keys don't co-operate (this is the problem with the 48 series, too.) Nobody is perfect <- from a Marilyn Monroe film === Subject: Re: HP 49G+ Keyboard vs. TI 89's > Which keyboard is considered to have better quality, putting layouts > aside? Does the TI 89 miss keystrokes and if so, is it more or less > frequent than the 49G+? > The TI keyboards, especially on the new Titanium series, are light-years > ahead of any current HP. Sad, but true. > 1) True, if you consider the missing keys problem > 2) False, if you consider the mushy touch > 3) False if you consider the layout > 4) False if you consider the ALPHA & cursor keys don't co-operate > (this is the problem with the 48 series, too.) > > Nobody is perfect <- from a Marilyn Monroe film Some Like it Hot? :) === Subject: Re: Emulated Saturn new opcodes Let me rectify an error: The opcode A=A^C.A does not raise to a power. It does a XOR, which was missing in the old Saturn. Claudio === Subject: Re: File names, types and SD cards It was written by Chapin[rschapin@comcast.net] in message : > Can someone straighten my head out here? I hate to rename my objects to be > cross-platform compatible. Their names have a purpose! Will the connectivity > kit be the way to go here? Do the names have characters that are illegal in FAT32 filesystems, like '?' (question ) ? You'd be better using 8.3 file names (like MS-DOS uses) and uppercase names [1]. [1] You seen to be using Windows. So this may not be a problem in this case... []s -- Chaos Master¨, posting from Brazil. REPLY TO GROUP! MSN: wizard_of_yendor[@]hotmail[.]com http://marreka.no-ip.com People told me I can't dress like a fairy. I say, I'm in a rock band and I can do what the hell I want! -- Amy Lee === Subject: Re: File names, types and SD cards Yes, I see that now. One was SMÖC. I hate to rename it because it so clearly tells me that the SMPTE timecode in level 2 will be divided by the object in level 1. > It was written by Chapin[rschapin@comcast.net] in message > : > Can someone straighten my head out here? I hate to rename my objects to be > cross-platform compatible. Their names have a purpose! Will the connectivity > kit be the way to go here? > Do the names have characters that are illegal in FAT32 filesystems, like '?' > (question ) ? You'd be better using 8.3 file names (like MS-DOS uses) and > uppercase names [1]. > [1] You seen to be using Windows. So this may not be a problem in this case... > []s > -- > Chaos Master¨, posting from Brazil. REPLY TO GROUP! > MSN: wizard_of_yendor[@]hotmail[.]com http://marreka.no-ip.com > People told me I can't dress like a fairy. I say, > I'm in a rock band and I can do what the hell I want! -- Amy Lee === Subject: Re: File names, types and SD cards It was written by Chapin[rschapin@comcast.net] in message : > Yes, I see that now. One was SMÖC. I hate to rename it because it so > clearly tells me that the SMPTE timecode in level 2 will be divided by the > object in level 1. Name it SMdivC? (SM divided by C) []s -- Chaos Master¨, posting from Brazil. REPLY TO GROUP! MSN: wizard_of_yendor[@]hotmail[.]com http://marreka.no-ip.com People told me I can't dress like a fairy. I say, I'm in a rock band and I can do what the hell I want! -- Amy Lee === Subject: Re: File names, types and SD cards > It was written by Chapin[rschapin@comcast.net] in message > : > Yes, I see that now. One was SMÖC. I hate to rename it because it so > clearly tells me that the SMPTE timecode in level 2 will be divided by the > object in level 1. > Name it SMdivC? (SM divided by C) Yes, yes I see that, but it won't fit on a softkey, but I can be creative. This example mixes lower case with upper case. Is that really a factor? === Subject: Re: File names, types and SD cards It was written by Chapin[rschapin@comcast.net] in message <_66dndJ-M- jVlLTcRVn-vQ@comcast.com>: [problem with names] > Yes, yes I see that, but it won't fit on a softkey, but I can be creative. > This example mixes lower case with upper case. Is that really a factor? Don't know for sure as I don't have a 49G+, but if you're downloading it into a Windows system (it seems, since you're using Outlook Express to post), file names in Windows aren't case sensitive. So, in theory this wouldn't be problem.. []s -- Chaos Master¨, posting from Brazil. REPLY TO GROUP! MSN: wizard_of_yendor[@]hotmail[.]com http://marreka.no-ip.com People told me I can't dress like a fairy. I say, I'm in a rock band and I can do what the hell I want! -- Amy Lee === Subject: Re: File names, types and SD cards > I used Jorge's program to backup my 49g+ to an SD card. Everything is fine, > except that I cannot copy 9 of 163 objects to my PC. It appears as though > the PC doesn't recognize the hp valid names and so won't copy them over. > Next, I tried Wolfgang's Filer6 to back my ports up using -SD->. The hp ROM > 1.23 update was on the card I used to backup to. When that card is in the > calculator, the ROM update shows ERROR for file type. When I stick the card > in my PC, it recognizes the ROM update, but doesn't see the Filer6 backup > objects at all. > Can someone straighten my head out here? I hate to rename my objects to be > cross-platform compatible. Their names have a purpose! Will the connectivity > kit be the way to go here? X I sincerely hope that the FAT32 would be somehow recognized Because of the many problems I started a new naming standard: 1) Names are 8.3 characters only 2) Avoid the same name in small and big letters 3) No special characters in names === Subject: Re: File names, types and SD cards > I used Jorge's program to backup my 49g+ to an SD card. Everything is > fine, > except that I cannot copy 9 of 163 objects to my PC. It appears as though > the PC doesn't recognize the hp valid names and so won't copy them over. > Next, I tried Wolfgang's Filer6 to back my ports up using -SD->. The hp > ROM > 1.23 update was on the card I used to backup to. When that card is in the > calculator, the ROM update shows ERROR for file type. When I stick the > card > in my PC, it recognizes the ROM update, but doesn't see the Filer6 backup > objects at all. > Can someone straighten my head out here? I hate to rename my objects to be > cross-platform compatible. Their names have a purpose! Will the > connectivity > kit be the way to go here? > I sincerely hope that the FAT32 would be somehow recognized > Because of the many problems I started a new naming standard: > 1) Names are 8.3 characters only > 2) Avoid the same name in small and big letters > 3) No special characters in names > Yeah, I haven't a clue why the backup objects weren't recognized. I refored and ran -SD->. Then the PC did see the files. I'll have to check the case of the characters. Of course changing case has that adds and subtracts SMPTE timecodes and using (+/-) etc. in the object names certainly helps identify their purpose on the keyboard. === Subject: Re: File names, types and SD cards you might consider applying a harmless char as a first in names, (~ does the job for me) and stick to uppercase > I used Jorge's program to backup my 49g+ to an SD card. Everything is > fine, > except that I cannot copy 9 of 163 objects to my PC. It appears as > though > the PC doesn't recognize the hp valid names and so won't copy them over. > > Next, I tried Wolfgang's Filer6 to back my ports up using -SD->. The hp > ROM > 1.23 update was on the card I used to backup to. When that card is in > the > calculator, the ROM update shows ERROR for file type. When I stick the > card > in my PC, it recognizes the ROM update, but doesn't see the Filer6 > backup > objects at all. > > Can someone straighten my head out here? I hate to rename my objects to > be > cross-platform compatible. Their names have a purpose! Will the > connectivity > kit be the way to go here? > X > I sincerely hope that the FAT32 would be somehow recognized > Because of the many problems I started a new naming standard: > 1) Names are 8.3 characters only > 2) Avoid the same name in small and big letters > 3) No special characters in names > > Yeah, I haven't a clue why the backup objects weren't recognized. I > refored and ran -SD->. Then the PC did see the files. > I'll have to check the case of the characters. Of course changing case has > that adds and subtracts SMPTE timecodes and using (+/-) etc. in the object > names certainly helps identify their purpose on the keyboard. === Subject: Re: File names, types and SD cards Wouldn't these characters have to be DOS compatible for PC transfer? > you might consider applying a harmless char as a first in names, (~ does the > job for me) and stick to uppercase > I used Jorge's program to backup my 49g+ to an SD card. Everything is > fine, > except that I cannot copy 9 of 163 objects to my PC. It appears as > though > the PC doesn't recognize the hp valid names and so won't copy them > over. > > Next, I tried Wolfgang's Filer6 to back my ports up using -SD->. The > hp > ROM > 1.23 update was on the card I used to backup to. When that card is in > the > calculator, the ROM update shows ERROR for file type. When I stick the > card > in my PC, it recognizes the ROM update, but doesn't see the Filer6 > backup > objects at all. > > Can someone straighten my head out here? I hate to rename my objects > to > be > cross-platform compatible. Their names have a purpose! Will the > connectivity > kit be the way to go here? > X > I sincerely hope that the FAT32 would be somehow recognized > Because of the many problems I started a new naming standard: > 1) Names are 8.3 characters only > 2) Avoid the same name in small and big letters > 3) No special characters in names > > > > Yeah, I haven't a clue why the backup objects weren't recognized. I > refored and ran -SD->. Then the PC did see the files. > I'll have to check the case of the characters. Of course changing case has program > that adds and subtracts SMPTE timecodes and using (+/-) etc. in the object > names certainly helps identify their purpose on the keyboard. === Subject: Re: File names, types and SD cards ~ is, don't know about other, never needed one :) > Wouldn't these characters have to be DOS compatible for PC transfer? > === Subject: Circuit simulator program for HP-48 people! Is there any circuit simulation program (like SPICE on the PC) for HP-48 calculators? []s -- Chaos Master¨, posting from Brazil. REPLY TO GROUP! MSN: wizard_of_yendor[@]hotmail[.]com http://marreka.no-ip.com People told me I can't dress like a fairy. I say, I'm in a rock band and I can do what the hell I want! -- Amy Lee === Subject: Campaign for optimize Emu48 & Emu42 http://www.hp42s.com/campaign/index.html Campaign for optimize Emu48 & Emu42 text extracted of http://www.hp42s.com/campaign/index.html http://www.hp42s.com/campaign/screenshots_emu48_pocketpc.html Why a campaign for Emu42? I have been a great supporter of Emu42 ever since I first heard about Christoph Giesselink's work on a HP-42S emulator in the same vein as Emu48. Not only would this be an essential piece of software for bringing the discontinued HP-42S into the 21st century. Neither could I have dreamed up someone more suitable for this task than Christoph Giesselink himself - for many years the maintainer of the Emu48 project. Later on I had the opportunity to become a beta tester of Emu42 and to see the emulator grow into the fullblown finished product it is today. Seldom could I contribute much more as a beta tester than just saying Yes, this is definitely on the right track. My expectations were raised even further when I learned about the Pocket PC 2002 version of Emu42 and that the aim was to also port Emu48 to the Pocket PC. (Previous attempts at porting Emu48 had been marred by a certain sluggishness making it close to unusable). stated that he would be willing to release the full versions of Emu42 both for Windows (9X/ME/2000/XP) and Pocket PC 2002 (later also the new port of Emu48 for Pocket PC 2002 was added) if he received 700 EUR or more. The aim of this campaign is therefore very simple - collect as many donations as possible in order to get Emu42 (and Emu48 for Pocket PC) publically released! Every single contribution will be important and could make the difference between a success of failure! Erik Ehrling (Sweden) www.hp42s.com === Subject: letter to Carly Fiorina & the Board I have been a user of HP products for some years now, particularly graphing calculators. As of late, the majority of end users have experience massive quality control problems with the newest 48 & 49 series. This in itself is a big enough problem, but it is also an indicator of a greater problem. The lack of quality, attention to detail, and desire to maximize profit over all else is a company that I am no longer interested in investing in. I was going to try to broker a promotional agreement between HP and our local colleges, but with the poor construction of products, I refuse to put my reputation at stake. et share is plummeting, and your people are not listening to the customers. If your goal is to eliminate HP from the calculator business, then you have nearly accomplished that goal. Schools no longer support HP, local business no longer support HP and end users throughout the community are no longer supporting HP and most importantly, your customer have lost faith in your company power in numbers