HP-259 Subject: 33s emulator I found this on HPs website; http://www.hp.ca/promotions/calc_emulator/index.php Now you can show your entire class what you're talking about. HP's calculator emulator software transforms your PC into a working replica of an HP financial (10bII, 12c Platinum, 17bII+), graphing (39g+, 48gII, 49g+) or scientific (33s) calculator. Just attach the PC (desktop or portable) to a PC-compatible projector and your class will see a large onscreen calculator that you control with your mouse. Is this emulator available somewhere else for non educators. === Subject: Re: 33s emulator how do you get the 33s emulator if you are not an educator?? === Subject: HP49g+ 9-wire serial irda commands Hey there, I'm still working on my communication device to emulate serial communication between the HP49g+ and a microprocessor. What I've accomplished: Irda-9wire cooked protocol works and detects hp49g+ when hp tries to communicate via transfer.... My problem: My programmer who was suppose to take care of the HP's end of the communication has dropped connection on me. I know no commands of how to get hp to send WITHOUT using an additional protocol like Kermit and Xmodem. Yes the provide error checking, but Im not really concerned with that. I would much rather be able to program a sort of Xon Xoff setup with the HP49 where dataflow would interpret incoming bytes to see when it can send, or when it has to listen. Any good links/ sample programs? === Subject: Re: HP49g+ 9-wire serial irda commands Spanish Version Quiero saber que se necesita en hardware y software para comunicar la hp49g+ con un PIC. Intent.8e comunicar la hp49g+ con el PC usando un adaptador USB-IrDA, pero no lo he logrado. Intal.8e el IRCOMM, aparece el nuevo COM pero no logro establecer comunicaci.97n. English Version I want to know what I need (hardware and software) to comunicate my hp49g+ and a PIC. I tried to comunicate hp49g+ and PC using USB-IrDA adapter, but I couldn't. I installed IRCOMM, a new COM is created, but there isn't communication. === Subject: Re: HP49g+ 9-wire serial irda commands I've been slowly working on this task for a little over 2 months. The communication I'm using is a IrCOMM 9 wire cooked. It detects communication and shows that it is ready for communication, but when the HP is trying to send, it continues to retry the connection. What I've discovered is that unless you are able to get it to communicate without using Kermit or Xmodem while still correctly setting up the protocol (ie not just spitting out the data) there is no low memory way of making it happen. Latley I've been screwing around with Xmodem and I'm finding it takes up allot of ram. bytes EEprom. Before adding Xmodem, I'm using 58% of my rom. I could go for a larger ROM on a different chip, but the 870 has all the periferials I need and I get them super cheep from my work. Lemme know how your project is going (Go to groups.yahoo.com and join Piclist ) === Subject: Re: HP49g+ 9-wire serial irda commands problem: My programmer who was suppose to take care of the HP's end > of the communication has dropped connection on me. I know no > commands of how to get hp to send WITHOUT using an additional protocol > like Kermit and Xmodem. XMIT and SERCV I think. Try ABCDEF XMIT. cheers, === Subject: See how my USB Connection does NOT work... I«ve tried EVERYTHING, bur the connection doesnt work. But look yourself: http://home.arcor.de// === Subject: Re: See how my USB Connection does NOT work... posting-account=Mar1jg0AAACF6QN5u0nozPQnCpvfsx_l Christian, Is your USB cable connected to a USB slot which connects to your motherboard? Is your USB drivers installed from your motherboard CD? Or is the USB card or front USB panel connected to your motherboard correctly or at all. Maybe try a USB port you know is working, printer etc. Your USB card might be dead. Try a different device, printer, camera, mouse etc and make sure it works with the USB port. or Perhaps you have corrupted USB Drivers. May I suggest removing these. Your possibly best using your Windows XP system for this. OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller and possibly all items under Universal Serial Bus controllers. And reboot your machine. Windows XP should install a fresh set of drivers for all new hardware. Then re-install the Connectivity Kit as usual. Comment: Couldn't see your PC screen in you AVI files very well. Noel Causerano (Registered Surveyor) GEOCALC SOFTWARE Registered Reseller HP Invent Cairns, QLD, Australia Email: noel@geocalc.net WEB: www.geocalc.net === Subject: Re: See how my USB Connection does NOT work... Noel, thx for your replies.... NC schrieb im Newsbeitrag > Christian, > Is your USB cable connected to a USB slot which connects to your > motherboard? Is your USB drivers installed from your motherboard CD? > Or is the USB card or front USB panel connected to your motherboard > correctly or at all. Maybe try a USB port you know is working, printer > etc. Your USB card might be dead. Try a different device, printer, > camera, mouse etc and make sure it works with the USB port. all usb ports on all tested computer work fine with other devices.... > or > Perhaps you have corrupted USB Drivers. Maybe.... but on six computers at the same time? On these different machines all corrupted drivers? I «t think so but of course I will try. > May I suggest removing these. Your possibly best using your Windows XP > system for this. > OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller and possibly all items > under Universal Serial Bus controllers. > And reboot your machine. Windows XP should install a fresh set of > drivers for all new hardware. Then re-install the Connectivity Kit as > usual. > Comment: Couldn't see your PC screen in you AVI files very well. Hehe, my digital camera has a bad resolution.... do you want to see my desktop more detailed?? > Noel Causerano (Registered Surveyor) > GEOCALC SOFTWARE > Registered Reseller HP Invent > Cairns, QLD, Australia > Email: noel@geocalc.net > WEB: www.geocalc.net === Subject: Re: See how my USB Connection does NOT work... <418910c4$0$20936$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net> posting-account=Mar1jg0AAACF6QN5u0nozPQnCpvfsx_l There could be a chance that your HP49G+ is faulty, this is very well possible, however I do recall your on your 3rd or 4th HP49G+. Now this is unlikely that each were faulty. Sorry if I'm not correct, I havn't More detailed desktop, well just only to be able to read the words on screen, how Connectivity software looks, error message, etc. === Subject: Re: See how my USB Connection does NOT work... An update is here: http://home.arcor.de/ NC schrieb im Newsbeitrag > There could be a chance that your HP49G+ is faulty, this is very well > possible, however I do recall your on your 3rd or 4th HP49G+. Now this > is unlikely that each were faulty. Sorry if I'm not correct, I havn't > More detailed desktop, well just only to be able to read the words on > screen, how Connectivity software looks, error message, etc. > === Subject: need SYSEVAL address to functions on my 48 Can someone post the SYSEVAL for these three user RPL function function PSDEV ->COL COL-> - === Subject: Re: need SYSEVAL address to functions on my 48 > Can someone post the SYSEVAL for these three user RPL function function > PSDEV > ->COL > COL- thank you These are no SYSEVAL. You must use LIBEVAL (they are available only on the G series) for PSDEV use #AB028h LIBEVAL ->COL #AB043h LIBEVAL COL-> #AB044h LIBEVAL cheers Fabian === Subject: Once again: USB & Connectivity Kit probs... This is what I found out: Transfer with: APPS -> 2. IO-Functions -> 5. Transfer -> Type: XMODEM seems to be ok. On two computers I could send small variables with the connectivity kit to the calc..... But the normal connection still refuses to work.... Anyone an idea? William Graves maybe? Christian P.S.: Now I am really excited. Tonight I will try it with big variables and libs.... === Subject: Re: Once again: USB & Connectivity Kit probs... Christian Buhmann a .8ecrit : > This is what I found out: > Transfer with: > APPS -> 2. IO-Functions -> 5. Transfer -> Type: XMODEM seems to be ok. > On two computers I could send small variables with the connectivity kit to > the calc..... > But the normal connection still refuses to work.... > Anyone an idea? William Graves maybe? > Christian > P.S.: Now I am really excited. Tonight I will try it with big variables and > libs.... Same problem. No solution. I've tested on Xp and Windows 2000 === Subject: Re: Once again: USB & Connectivity Kit probs... ....ok.. every kind of data can be transfered.... http://home.arcor.de//screenshots.pdf Christian Buhmann <@web.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > This is what I found out: > Transfer with: > APPS -> 2. IO-Functions -> 5. Transfer -> Type: XMODEM seems to be ok. > On two computers I could send small variables with the connectivity kit to > the calc..... > But the normal connection still refuses to work.... > Anyone an idea? William Graves maybe? > Christian > P.S.: Now I am really excited. Tonight I will try it with big variables and > libs.... === Subject: Re: Once again: USB & Connectivity Kit probs... <41893758$0$20950$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net> posting-account=Mar1jg0AAACF6QN5u0nozPQnCpvfsx_l That that mean your problem is solved? How did you solve it? === Subject: Re: Once again: USB & Connectivity Kit probs... NC, no, my problem is definetely NOT SOLVED. But I found an interesting thing. The question is now: Why does the manual file transfer with XRECV work fine but the XSERV refuses to work? I am not able to use the explorer like functions in the connectivity kit. It«s hard work to create directories, move files, write programs with only the calc keyboard.... and most of all I didnt pay 180,-? for a calcualtor that preserves only some parts of what it really can do... I hope I can get some answers, espacially from William.... Christian Buhmann NC schrieb im Newsbeitrag > That that mean your problem is solved? > How did you solve it? > === Subject: Re: Once again: USB & Connectivity Kit probs... Hi Christian looks interesting. However, I used 49g+ with Windows XP and the latest version of the drivers and it works fine without any problem. Therefore I suppose that it is a problem rather on the side of PC that calculator. Maybe the re-nstallation of WinXP would resolve that(?) Johny > NC, > no, my problem is definetely NOT SOLVED. But I found an interesting thing. > The question is now: > Why does the manual file transfer with XRECV work fine but the XSERV refuses > to work? > I am not able to use the explorer like functions in the connectivity kit. > It«s hard work to create directories, move files, write programs with only > the calc keyboard.... and most of all I didnt pay 180,-? for a calcualtor > that preserves only some parts of what it really can do... > I hope I can get some answers, espacially from William.... > Christian Buhmann > NC schrieb im Newsbeitrag > That that mean your problem is solved? > How did you solve it? > === Subject: Re: Once again: USB & Connectivity Kit probs... > NC, > no, my problem is definetely NOT SOLVED. But I found an interesting thing. > The question is now: > Why does the manual file transfer with XRECV work fine but the XSERV refuses > to work? > I am not able to use the explorer like functions in the connectivity kit. > It's hard work to create directories, move files, write programs with only > the calc keyboard.... and most of all I didnt pay 180,-? for a calcualtor > that preserves only some parts of what it really can do... > I hope I can get some answers, espacially from William.... I'm not William, or even Noel, but for whatever they're worth, I'll offer my thoughts. Okay, it works with XRECV, but have you tried sending a file to the PC using XSEND? If XSEND doesn't work, perhaps something on the PC is blocking receiving files over USB? Maybe a firewall or MS Windows XP SP2 security enhancements? Blocking USB file transfers via USB doesn't make much sense to me, but that's not the first thing about MS Windows that doesn't make much sense. -- === Subject: thousand separator on the 49g+? Hi How do I get the display to use thousand separators (commas ideally) on my new 49g+? My ancient 19B finally died and I got this as a replacement and I can't seem to find the flag/option to put separators in the display. Most of my calcs are on numbers that really need the separators. Any help appreciated. lex === Subject: Re: thousand separator on the 49g+? > Hi > How do I get the display to use thousand separators (commas ideally) > on my new 49g+? > My ancient 19B finally died and I got this as a replacement and I > can't seem to find the flag/option to put separators in the display. > Most of my calcs are on numbers that really need the separators. > Any help appreciated. > lex Get into MODE, and set de Number Format to FIX. Commas DO NOT work with UNITS, even in Fix mode. Daniel === Subject: Re: thousand separator on the 49g+? >> Hi >> How do I get the display to use thousand separators (commas ideally) >> on my new 49g+? >> My ancient 19B finally died and I got this as a replacement and I >> can't seem to find the flag/option to put separators in the display. >> Most of my calcs are on numbers that really need the separators. >> Any help appreciated. >> lex > Get into MODE, and set de Number Format to FIX. > Commas DO NOT work with UNITS, even in Fix mode. And the same happens in my (t)rusty HP-48GX === Subject: Re: thousand separator on the 49g+? > And the same happens in my (t)rusty HP-48GX > and again :-) It's good to have you back -keep up the good spirit === Subject: Re: thousand separator on the 49g+? Hi Lex change the settings of the number format (MODE key) from standard to fix. It should help you out :) Johny > Hi > How do I get the display to use thousand separators (commas ideally) > on my new 49g+? > My ancient 19B finally died and I got this as a replacement and I > can't seem to find the flag/option to put separators in the display. > Most of my calcs are on numbers that really need the separators. > Any help appreciated. > lex === Subject: Not connecting to pc I have reinstalled drivers and program, as well as rebooted several times. when i hook the calc to pc and turn it on windows xp beeps to let me know it is connected. the problem is connx4 says no device found. any ideas? === Subject: Re: Not connecting to pc > I have reinstalled drivers and program, as well as rebooted several > times. when i hook the calc to pc and turn it on windows xp beeps to > let me know it is connected. the problem is connx4 says no device > found. any ideas? Same Problem. Usb driver seems ok : I can see the device in the windows list but connx4 can't connect. I've tried on 3 different PCs. (One with W2000). The problem is the same. Latest driver and program from Internet 't solve it. Snif !... === Subject: Re: Not connecting to pc > I have reinstalled drivers and program, as well as rebooted several > times. when i hook the calc to pc and turn it on windows xp beeps to > let me know it is connected. the problem is connx4 says no device > found. any ideas? > Same Problem. Usb driver seems ok : I can see the device in the windows > list but connx4 can't connect. > I've tried on 3 different PCs. (One with W2000). The problem is the same. > Latest driver and program from Internet 't solve it. > Snif !... Yes. I've tried on PCs with Windows XP, and while the PC recognizes the device connected to it, the Connectivity kit (I downloaded the latest one from hpcalc.org - should I be trying something else?) doesn't recognize anything, and so can't connect. Interestingly enough, though, I can connect perfectly with a Mac (OS 10.3.6) lip === Subject: Re: Not connecting to pc >I have reinstalled drivers and program, as well as rebooted several >times. when i hook the calc to pc and turn it on windows xp beeps to >let me know it is connected. the problem is connx4 says no device >found. any ideas? >>Same Problem. Usb driver seems ok : I can see the device in the windows >>list but connx4 can't connect. >>I've tried on 3 different PCs. (One with W2000). The problem is the same. >>Latest driver and program from Internet 't solve it. >>Snif !... > Yes. I've tried on PCs with Windows XP, and while the PC recognizes > the device connected to it, the Connectivity kit (I downloaded the > latest one from hpcalc.org - should I be trying something else?) Presumably that would be Conn4x Version 2.2 Build 2353 with Kinpo USB driver version 1.2? As far as I know, those are the latest. If new versions come out, they'll presumably show up on HP's Web site first. I usually check from: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DriverDownload.jsp?taskId=1 35&prodSeriesId=33568&prodTypeId=215348&pnameOID=351776 I'm not absolutely certain, but I think that although there are separate pages for the different MS Windows versions, the files are actually identical. > doesn't recognize anything, and so can't connect. I hope you're all trying with flag -33 clear (Transfer via wire), and for screen captures, flag -34 set (Print via wire). so, you want to be in XModem server mode, with the sreen displaying Xmodem Server, Waiting for command. Press and release RightShift, then press CursorRight to get into XModem server mode. If your display is Awaiting Server Cmd., then you're in Kermit server mode, and Conn4x won't be able to connect. > Interestingly enough, though, I can connect perfectly with a Mac (OS > 10.3.6) Do you mean in some sort of Windows emulator, or using Michael Heinz's HP Connect? See: http://sourceforge.net/projects/hpconnect/ Note that if you have an SD card reader for your computer, you can transfer using an SD card (or a MultiMedia card, MMC). As built-in to the 49g+, files are stored on the card as binary transfers See: http://www.hpcalc.org/search.php?query=ASCII+on+SD -- === Subject: Re: Not connecting to pc > >I have reinstalled drivers and program, as well as rebooted several >times. when i hook the calc to pc and turn it on windows xp beeps to >let me know it is connected. the problem is connx4 says no device >found. any ideas? > >>Same Problem. Usb driver seems ok : I can see the device in the windows >>list but connx4 can't connect. > >>I've tried on 3 different PCs. (One with W2000). The problem is the same. > >>Latest driver and program from Internet 't solve it. > >>Snif !... > Yes. I've tried on PCs with Windows XP, and while the PC recognizes > the device connected to it, the Connectivity kit (I downloaded the > latest one from hpcalc.org - should I be trying something else?) > Presumably that would be Conn4x Version 2.2 Build 2353 with Kinpo > USB driver version 1.2? That is correct - when I download the file and unzip it, do I need to install the USB driver? I didn't think so, since Windows recognizes that and HP calculator is connected. > As far as I know, those are the latest. If new versions come out, > they'll presumably show up on HP's Web site first. I usually check > from: > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DriverDownload.jsp?taskId=13 5&prodSeriesId=33568&prodTypeId=215348&pnameOID=351776 > I'm not absolutely certain, but I think that although there are > separate pages for the different MS Windows versions, the files > are actually identical. > doesn't recognize anything, and so can't connect. > I hope you're all trying with flag -33 clear (Transfer via wire), > and for screen captures, flag -34 set (Print via wire). I am. > so, you want to be in XModem server mode, with the sreen > displaying Xmodem Server, Waiting for command. Press and > release RightShift, then press CursorRight to get into XModem > server mode. Yes. > If your display is Awaiting Server Cmd., then you're in Kermit > server mode, and Conn4x won't be able to connect. > Interestingly enough, though, I can connect perfectly with a Mac (OS > 10.3.6) > Do you mean in some sort of Windows emulator, or using Michael > Heinz's HP Connect? See: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/hpconnect/ No, I'm using HP Connect, which I downloaded from hpcalc.org - now I know the development site. > Note that if you have an SD card reader for your computer, you can > transfer using an SD card (or a MultiMedia card, MMC). As built-in > to the 49g+, files are stored on the card as binary transfers > See: http://www.hpcalc.org/search.php?query=ASCII+on+SD I might do that - I have a 32 Kb SD card installed, but as I use school computers for all transfers (which is why I have both PCs and Macs - and Sun stations for that matter - available to me), only one station has a card reader installed. lip === Subject: Re: Not connecting to pc >>Do you mean in some sort of Windows emulator, or using Michael >>Heinz's HP Connect? See: >>http://sourceforge.net/projects/hpconnect/ > No, I'm using HP Connect, which I downloaded from hpcalc.org - now I > know the development site. Note that on hpcalc.org, sometimes the description has a H link (presumably for Home page) next to the author's e-mail link. hpcalc.org is a valuable resource, but authors might not immediately upload revisions, and sometimes it takes a while for Eric to get around to adding them to the site. It may be worthwhile following the link to the author's site to check for later releases and additional information. -- === Subject: Re: Not connecting to pc X >> Presumably that would be Conn4x Version 2.2 Build 2353 with Kinpo >> USB driver version 1.2? > That is correct - when I download the file and unzip it, do I need to > install the USB driver? I didn't think so, since Windows recognizes > that and HP calculator is connected. X You need to uninstall the old driver and install the new driver === Subject: Re: Not connecting to pc Had the same problem when I installed the connection kit that comes on the cd with the calc. In my case, a new version of the original program, found at hp.calc.org (hp49/pc/link page) HP48GII and HP49G+ PC Connectivity Kit version 2.2 built 2353 replaced the old one and works decently. >> I have reinstalled drivers and program, as well as rebooted several >> times. when i hook the calc to pc and turn it on windows xp beeps to >> let me know it is connected. the problem is connx4 says no device >> found. any ideas? > Same Problem. Usb driver seems ok : I can see the device in the windows > list but connx4 can't connect. > I've tried on 3 different PCs. (One with W2000). The problem is the same. > Latest driver and program from Internet 't solve it. > Snif !... === Subject: Re: Not connecting to pc I have the same problems ans I know there is NO SOLUTION until now..... I have sent my calc back and I am waitung for an answer.. Did you try the manually file transfer with XRECV or XSEND?Look here: http://home.arcor.de// http://home.arcor.de//screenshots.pdf pm schrieb im Newsbeitrag > Had the same problem when I installed the connection kit > that comes on the cd with the calc. > In my case, a new version of the original program, found at > hp.calc.org (hp49/pc/link page) > HP48GII and HP49G+ PC Connectivity Kit version 2.2 built 2353 > replaced the old one and works decently. >> I have reinstalled drivers and program, as well as rebooted several >> times. when i hook the calc to pc and turn it on windows xp beeps to >> let me know it is connected. the problem is connx4 says no device >> found. any ideas? > Same Problem. Usb driver seems ok : I can see the device in the windows > list but connx4 can't connect. > I've tried on 3 different PCs. (One with W2000). The problem is the same. > Latest driver and program from Internet 't solve it. > Snif !... === Subject: Re: Not connecting to pc This seems the same problem that my first 49g+ had. It actually connected the very first time I used it with it's USB, but then died and wouldn't talk ever again. (It was detected by windows as a USB device but the ConnX4 would not detect the calc.) I assumed it was some sort of mechanical problem with the USB connector or cracked tracks on the PCB of the calculator aggravated by the plugging in/out of the cable (although I'm not ham fisted or anything, and I didn't use any force with it). I tried three w2k (sp4) and an WinXP (SP1) machine before I complained and got a warranty replacement HP49g+ that works fine. > I have reinstalled drivers and program, as well as rebooted several > times. when i hook the calc to pc and turn it on windows xp beeps to > let me know it is connected. the problem is connx4 says no device > found. any ideas? > Same Problem. Usb driver seems ok : I can see the device in the windows > list but connx4 can't connect. > I've tried on 3 different PCs. (One with W2000). The problem is the same. > Latest driver and program from Internet 't solve it. > Snif !... === Subject: Re: Not connecting to pc This is really interesting..... But my replaced calculator doesnt connect too.... I sent i back again and the repair center said it worked fine.... strange... This week I will send the replaced calculator AND my computer back. I want them to have a look at the whole system. Then I am very curious to see what they say.... Christian B. Simon Massey schrieb im Newsbeitrag > This seems the same problem that my first 49g+ had. It actually connected > the very first time I used it with it's USB, but then died and wouldn't talk > ever again. (It was detected by windows as a USB device but the ConnX4 would > not detect the calc.) I assumed it was some sort of mechanical problem with > the USB connector or cracked tracks on the PCB of the calculator aggravated > by the plugging in/out of the cable (although I'm not ham fisted or > anything, and I didn't use any force with it). I tried three w2k (sp4) and > an WinXP (SP1) machine before I complained and got a warranty replacement > HP49g+ that works fine. > > I have reinstalled drivers and program, as well as rebooted several > > times. when i hook the calc to pc and turn it on windows xp beeps to > > let me know it is connected. the problem is connx4 says no device > > found. any ideas? > Same Problem. Usb driver seems ok : I can see the device in the windows > list but connx4 can't connect. > I've tried on 3 different PCs. (One with W2000). The problem is the same. > Latest driver and program from Internet 't solve it. > Snif !... === Subject: Re: Not connecting to pc <418cf605$0$30747$636a15ce@news.free.fr> <418d02e7$0$43628$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net> <418e6354$0$22613$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> posting-account=Mar1jg0AAACF6QN5u0nozPQnCpvfsx_l I very much doubt your PC will have a problem, this is because your PC hardware would have gone vigorous quality assurance tests. I dare say there will be no problems with your PC ? May I suggest you take this problem directly with HP Warranty Support. There is high probability your problems are directly influenced by your HP49G+. Best of Luck!!! Please keep us informed. Noel Causerano (Registered Surveyor) GEOCALC SOFTWARE Registered Reseller HP Invent Cairns, QLD, Australia Email: noel@geocalc.net WEB: www.geocalc.net === Subject: Re: Not connecting to pc posting-account=Mar1jg0AAACF6QN5u0nozPQnCpvfsx_l 1. Check to see that your HP49G+ is set to WIRE transfer. 2. On the PC. In the Connect Using: Can you see HPx9G+ ? === Subject: Writing variables on computer for 49g+ Is it possible to write EqWriter variables on computer and then transfer to my 49G+? I'm hoping to write all the important formulas into the calc... === Subject: Re: Writing variables on computer for 49g+ terkel > Is it possible to write EqWriter variables on computer and then > transfer to my 49G+? I'm hoping to write all the important formulas > into the calc... Yeah, sure, no problem. Open your favorite text editor and start the first line with the following %%HP: T(3)A(R)F(.); The translation level T(3) is the most important part to observe. Next lines are just like on the HP49G+ in edit mode on the stack. Keep in mind the backslash for those special machine characters such as the program delimiters and square root for example. Illustrating the above with the following is a program to find the longest side on a right triangle: %%HP: T(3)A(R)F(.); TEST DIR RUNME << -> a b << a DUP * b DUP * + v/ ->NUM >>> README Enter right sides a and b EQ 'c=v/(a^2+b^2)' END Note that it creates a directory named TEST and under it creates a program named RUNME, a string description named README and an equation version of the program using global variable named EQ (the reserved name) ready to solve with 30 MENU (the SOLVER). Off to play with my libretto 50ct now :-) have fun :-) !Demeter! === Subject: Re: Writing variables on computer for 49g+ > terkel >> Is it possible to write EqWriter variables on computer and then >> transfer to my 49G+? I'm hoping to write all the important formulas >> into the calc... > Yeah, sure, no problem. Open your favorite text editor > and start the first line with the following > %%HP: T(3)A(R)F(.); > The translation level T(3) is the most important part > to observe. Next lines are just like on the HP49G+ > in edit mode on the stack. Keep in mind the backslash Hi...could you point me in the direct of some good doc for the uploading downloading features of the 49g+. not exactly sure how your geting your program below to create the directory string etc... should there not be a STO behind them.. thanxs for any help. merlyn. > for those special machine characters such as the program > delimiters and square root for example. Illustrating the > above with the following is a program to find the longest > side on a right triangle: > %%HP: T(3)A(R)F(.); > TEST > DIR > RUNME << -> a b << a DUP * b DUP * + v/ ->NUM >> README Enter right sides a and b > EQ 'c=v/(a^2+b^2)' > END > Note that it creates a directory named TEST and under it > creates a program named RUNME, a string description named > README and an equation version of the program using global > variable named EQ (the reserved name) ready to solve with > 30 MENU (the SOLVER). > Off to play with my libretto 50ct now :-) > have fun :-) > !Demeter! === Subject: Re: Writing variables on computer for 49g+ Merlyn (again) > create the directory string etc... > should there not be a STO behind them.. OK, now I get what you meant. The HPconnect version for the junk (HP49G+) needs a 'STO' by the user at the end of the transfer 'cause it puts the DIR and it's name on the stack. STUPIDO! !Demeter! aargh^&#$@!!! === Subject: Re: Writing variables on computer for 49g+ > Merlyn (again) > create the directory string etc... > should there not be a STO behind them.. > OK, now I get what you meant. The HPconnect > version for the junk (HP49G+) needs a 'STO' > by the user at the end of the transfer 'cause > it puts the DIR and it's name on the stack. > STUPIDO! > !Demeter! aargh^&#$@!!! That should not happen; could you send me the file to look at? === Subject: Re: Writing variables on computer for 49g+ Merlyn > Hi...could you point me in the direct of some good doc > for the uploading downloading features of the 49g+. > not exactly sure how your geting your program below to > create the directory string etc... > should there not be a STO behind them.. I forgot to mention the ... obvious. This is text typed on the PC and is transfered over to the HP48-49 using the HPconnect program in text mode. The variables in that case are automatically created on the calculator. As far as documentation is concerned I used/use good old HP48G documents which you can find in www.hpcalc.org (both user's manual and advanced user's guide). Have fun! !Demeter! === Subject: Re: Writing variables on computer for 49g+ Sure it is, but why would you do it that way? It's heaps easier to key them in on the calc IMO > Is it possible to write EqWriter variables on computer and then > transfer to my 49G+? I'm hoping to write all the important formulas > into the calc... === Subject: HP48 Family Disassembly of ROM Code Has anyone disassembled the ROM for the HP48G/X? I am particularily interested in the bootup code and at least major outlining of the calculator functions in the ROM code. Has anyone developed custom ROMs for the HP48? Tom === Subject: Re: HP48 Family Disassembly of ROM Code X-GPG-FINGRPRINT: 6813 0372 183A 4E76 FB00 C858 1FFC A3A7 110E 3327 X-GPG-PUBLIC_KEY: http://n.ethz.ch/student/hasslerf/download/public_key.asc > Has anyone disassembled the ROM for the HP48G/X? I am particularily > interested in the bootup code and at least major outlining of the > calculator functions in the ROM code. Has anyone developed custom > ROMs for the HP48? There is the program called sad which is a disassembler with a database of symbols and comments: http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id=3815 I once disassembled the whole hp48gx-rom but cannot find the file now. cheers, Fabian ------------ And now a word from our sponsor --------------------- For a secure high performance FTP using SSL/TLS encryption upgrade to SurgeFTP ---- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_surgeftp.htm ---- === Subject: Re: HP48 Family Disassembly of ROM Code > Has anyone disassembled the ROM for the HP48G/X? I am particularily > interested in the bootup code and at least major outlining of the > calculator functions in the ROM code. Has anyone developed custom > ROMs for the HP48? > Tom There is one called sS in hpcalc.org. but it doesn't use the built in rom. it is a 32kb archive to put in port1. It works great, but has not many applications. There is another called MKor metakernel that uses and expands the built in rom. === Subject: Re: HP48 Family Disassembly of ROM Code Has anyone disassembled any parts of the HP48G series Rom. I am looking for commented code as a result of someone already Tom > Has anyone disassembled the ROM for the HP48G/X? I am particularily > interested in the bootup code and at least major outlining of the > calculator functions in the ROM code. Has anyone developed custom > ROMs for the HP48? Tom > There is one called sS in hpcalc.org. but it doesn't use the > built in rom. it is a 32kb archive to put in port1. > It works great, but has not many applications. > There is another called MKor metakernel that uses and expands the > built in rom. === Subject: Re: HP48 Family Disassembly of ROM Code Look for Voyager on hpcalc.org, Derek Nickel's amazing re-write of my TA program from long ago... so see http://www.hpcalc.org/hp48/docs/programming/ >Has anyone disassembled any parts of the HP48G series Rom. I am >looking for commented code as a result of someone already >Tom >> Has anyone disassembled the ROM for the HP48G/X? I am particularily >> interested in the bootup code and at least major outlining of the >> calculator functions in the ROM code. Has anyone developed custom >> ROMs for the HP48? >> >> Tom >> There is one called sS in hpcalc.org. but it doesn't use the >> built in rom. it is a 32kb archive to put in port1. >> It works great, but has not many applications. >> There is another called MKor metakernel that uses and expands the >> built in rom. === Subject: Re: HP48 Family Disassembly of ROM Code Hi Pete: Tom > Look for Voyager on hpcalc.org, Derek Nickel's amazing re-write of my > TA program from long ago... > so see > http://www.hpcalc.org/hp48/docs/programming/ >Has anyone disassembled any parts of the HP48G series Rom. I am >looking for commented code as a result of someone already >Tom >> Has anyone disassembled the ROM for the HP48G/X? I am particularily >> interested in the bootup code and at least major outlining of the >> calculator functions in the ROM code. Has anyone developed custom >> ROMs for the HP48? >> >> Tom >> >> >> There is one called sS in hpcalc.org. but it doesn't use the >> built in rom. it is a 32kb archive to put in port1. >> It works great, but has not many applications. >> >> There is another called MKor metakernel that uses and expands the >> built in rom. > Pete M. Wilson > Gamewood, Inc. > wilsonpm@gamewood.net === Subject: Re: HP48 Family Disassembly of ROM Code It's on Joe Horn's Goodies Disk #2. Georg. > Hi Pete: > searching. > Tom >> Look for Voyager on hpcalc.org, Derek Nickel's amazing re-write of my >> TA program from long ago... === Subject: HP49+, Unknown commands I have accidently discovered some commands that I did not know existed and for which I can find no explanations. They can be seen by entering 782 MENU. The commands are apparently extra stack manipulation commands. Some are easy enough to figure out and potentially useful: NDUP, NDROP and KEEP, each using one argument; ROLLN, PICKN, KEEPN and DRPNM each using two arguments; A couple of oddball commands, DO2 and NDO for which the argument must be on level 2, and which for positive integer arguments, n, permutes cyclicly the lowest n+2 other levels. I am sure that there is some potential use for these commands, but I have not found it. And one command, DSTCK, which looks interesting but which I cannot get to work at all. Does anyone know the purpose of DO2 or NDO, or anything at all about DSTCK? Any info would be most welcome. === Subject: Re: HP49+, Unknown commands > I have acc=idently discovered some commands that I did not know existed > and for which I can find no explanations. > They can be seen by entering 782 MENU. > The commands are apparently extra stack manipulation commands. > Some are easy enough to figure out and potentially useful: > NDUP, NDROP and KEEP, each using one argument; > ROLLN, PICKN, KEEPN and DRPNM each using two arguments; > A couple of oddball commands, DO2 and NDO for which the argument must be > on level 2, and which for positive integer arguments, n, permutes > cyclicly the lowest n+2 other levels. I am sure that there is some > potential use for these commands, but I have not found it. > And one command, DSTCK, which looks interesting but which I cannot get > to work at all. > Does anyone know the purpose of DO2 or NDO, or anything at all about > DSTCK? > Any info would be most welcome. But 782 MENU gives me a blank menu on my 49g+, so I believe that you've installed library 782, STACK 1.0, available at: http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id=5573 Sometimes it's difficult to remember what we have installed on our calculators, isn't it? -- === Subject: Re: HP49+, Unknown commands >> extra stack manipulation commands. >> Some are easy enough to figure out and potentially useful: >> NDUP, NDROP and KEEP, each using one argument; >> ROLLN, PICKN, KEEPN and DRPNM each using two arguments; See also 73 MENU (on any HP48 or HP49), and the Interactive Stack menu (on any HP48G or HP49G). With best wishes from http://www.mum.edu === Subject: Re: HP49+, Unknown commands > I have acc=idently discovered some commands that I did not know existed > and for which I can find no explanations. > They can be seen by entering 782 MENU. > The commands are apparently extra stack manipulation commands. > Some are easy enough to figure out and potentially useful: > NDUP, NDROP and KEEP, each using one argument; > ROLLN, PICKN, KEEPN and DRPNM each using two arguments; > A couple of oddball commands, DO2 and NDO for which the argument must be > on level 2, and which for positive integer arguments, n, permutes > cyclicly the lowest n+2 other levels. I am sure that there is some > potential use for these commands, but I have not found it. > And one command, DSTCK, which looks interesting but which I cannot get > to work at all. > Does anyone know the purpose of DO2 or NDO, or anything at all about > DSTCK? > Any info would be most welcome. > But 782 MENU gives me a blank menu on my 49g+, so I believe that > you've installed library 782, STACK 1.0, available at: > http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id=5573 > Sometimes it's difficult to remember what we have installed on > our calculators, isn't it? Should have realized it was a library from the high menu number. I standardly have about 25 to 30 libraries loaded, including a few of my own, out of about 50 to 60 on my SD card, so I do tend to lose track of exactly which ones are actually loaded. I had to get a replacement for my hp49+, and I have a lot more libs on my SD card than I had actually downloaded onto my previous 49+, so I accidentally downloaded this library, and a few others that I do not usualy use, onto my new 49+ without being aware of what I was doing. Actually, it is a pretty neat library, and I think I will keep it loaded, and look for ways to use it in my programs. === Subject: hp49g+ Is there a flag to keep all angles positive in polar form? When working with vectors angles greater than Pi (180 degrees) or less than 0 are shown as negative angles. Is there a flag that can be set to keep the angles positive? === Subject: Re: hp49g+ Is there a flag to keep all angles positive in polar form? > When working with vectors angles greater than Pi (180 degrees) or less > than 0 are shown as negative angles. Is there a flag that can be set > to keep the angles positive? I 't think there is. Actually, less than zero is necessarily negative, so you'd end up with wrong answers. I take it that you want all your answers in the range [0,2Pi) rather than [-Pi,Pi)? JasonG === Subject: Re: hp49g+ Is there a flag to keep all angles positive in polar form? Yes, all answers in the range of (0, 2Pi). There doesn't seem to be a flag for this, that I have found anyway. The negative angles aren't wrong, they just need to be adjusted after the fact to keep results all formatted in the way I wanted to display them. I can easily adjust them with 2Pi (or 360) Mod, at the expense of the few extra steps, I was trying to save with the hoped for flag. >> When working with vectors angles greater than Pi (180 degrees) or less >> than 0 are shown as negative angles. Is there a flag that can be set >> to keep the angles positive? >I 't think there is. >Actually, less than zero is necessarily negative, so you'd end up with >wrong answers. >I take it that you want all your answers in the range [0,2Pi) rather >than [-Pi,Pi)? >JasonG === Subject: Re: hp49g+ Is there a flag to keep all angles positive in polar form? posting-account=Mar1jg0AAACF6QN5u0nozPQnCpvfsx_l I use the ABS command to automatically turn a negative number to a positive. Maybe this might help? === Subject: Re: hp49g+ Is there a flag to keep all angles positive in polar form? >I use the ABS command to automatically turn a negative number to a > positive. Maybe this might help? No way when angular functions are concerned!!! ways use MOD (or similar) === Subject: Re: hp49g+ Is there a flag to keep all angles positive in polar form? >>I use the ABS command to automatically turn a negative number to a >> positive. Maybe this might help? >No way when angular functions are concerned!!! >ways use MOD (or similar) > I have been looking for my HP 25 owners manual, but I think when I find it, it will say that all angles are returned in the 1st and fourth quadrants. This has been a chacteristic of HP calculators since the beginning. Harold A. Climer Dept. Of Physics,Geology, and Astronomy U.T. Chattanooga 318 Grote Hall 615 McCallie Ave Chattanooga TN 37403 === Subject: Re: hp49g+ Is there a flag to keep all angles positive in polar form? >>I use the ABS command to automatically turn a negative number to a >> positive. Maybe this might help? >No way when angular functions are concerned!!! >ways use MOD (or similar) > > I have been looking for my HP 25 owners manual, but I think when I > find it, it will say that all angles are returned in the 1st and > fourth quadrants. This has been a chacteristic of HP calculators since > the beginning. > Harold A. Climer > Dept. Of Physics,Geology, and Astronomy > U.T. Chattanooga > 318 Grote Hall > 615 McCallie Ave > Chattanooga TN 37403 Harold - The MOD function is indeed the correct method. I have used it in a program I have uploaded to hpcalc.org today. It is a spin-off of the Polar and Rectangular functions that were in the 41 and used by surveyors for many years. 't know why it was dropped from the 48/49 though. This version is geared to the surveyor as it works in DMS (HMS) angles and Latitude and Departure. It also works in the 4 quads depending on the sign of the angle/distance. The angles can be entered negative, but when inversed back become whole circle CW positive angles. The source files will be included so you can see the procedure. Maybe this will help. === Subject: Re: hp49g+ Is there a flag to keep all angles positive in polar form? > Harold - The MOD function is indeed the correct method. I have > used it in a program I have uploaded to hpcalc.org today. It is a > spin-off of the Polar and Rectangular functions that were in the 41 > and used by surveyors for many years. 't know why it was dropped > from the 48/49 though. This version is geared to the surveyor as it > works in DMS (HMS) angles and Latitude and Departure. It also works in > the 4 quads depending on the sign of the angle/distance. The angles > can be entered negative, but when inversed back become whole circle CW > positive angles. The source files will be included so you can see the > procedure. Maybe this will help. I 't get it, what was dropped in the 48/49? === Subject: Re: hp49g+ Is there a flag to keep all angles positive in polar form? >.... Polar and Rectangular functions that were in the 41 > and used by surveyors for many years. 't know why it was dropped > from the 48/49 though... >I 't get it, what was dropped in the 48/49? Hi Reth - I was refering to this function which I haven't found in any of the the literature of the 48. It was a very useful tool for us, but it didn't seem to make the cut in the 48. I have found where others have noticed it missing from the functions too. So unless I missed it somewhere ... :) . Scott H. === Subject: Re: hp49g+ Is there a flag to keep all angles positive in polar form? >.... Polar and Rectangular functions that were in the 41 > and used by surveyors for many years. 't know why it was dropped > from the 48/49 though... >I 't get it, what was dropped in the 48/49? > Hi Reth - I was refering to this function which I haven't found in any of the > the literature of the 48. It was a very useful tool for us, but it didn't seem > to make the cut in the 48. I have found where others have noticed it missing > from the functions too. So unless I missed it somewhere ... :) . > Scott H. Now I see... they are there (P-R and R-P) but in SysRPL; in the 48/49 you wouldn't need them but if you do: RP :: CK2&Dispatch 2REAL %REC>%POL ; @ PR :: CK2&Dispatch 2REAL %>POL%REC ; @ The above will work as the 41 ones; you might modify them slightly: RP :: CK2&Dispatch 2REAL :: %REC>%POL %360 (to get angle ) %MOD (between 0-360) %>HMS (and even in DMS format ; ; @ PR :: CK2&Dispatch 2REAL :: %HMS> (input angle in DMS format) %POL>%REC ; ; @ === Subject: Re: hp49g+ Is there a flag to keep all angles positive in polar form? Hi Reth - Wow now that is cool. I looked all over for it. I haven't e the system programming much. But I have perused it a bit. Guess ***original message below *** > Now I see... > they are there (P-R and R-P) but in SysRPL; in the 48/49 you wouldn't need > them but if you do: > RP > :: > CK2&Dispatch > 2REAL > %REC>%POL > PR > :: > CK2&Dispatch > 2REAL > %>POL%REC > The above will work as the 41 ones; > you might modify them slightly: > RP > :: > CK2&Dispatch > 2REAL > :: > %REC>%POL > %360 (to get angle ) > %MOD (between 0-360) > %>HMS (and even in DMS format > ; > PR > :: > CK2&Dispatch > 2REAL > :: > %HMS> (input angle in DMS format) > %POL>%REC > ; === Subject: Re: hp49g+ Is there a flag to keep all angles positive in polar form? Okay, I know I'm being lazy for asking this but how does one compile a SysRPL program on the 49G/49G+ calculators? My limited experience so far has been with User RPL and thought it would be quicker if one of the HP guru's of this fantastic forum could provide an answer. The more I learn the more I want to learn! Gary > Hi Reth - Wow now that is cool. I looked all over for it. I haven't > e the system programming much. But I have perused it a bit. Guess > ***original message below *** > Now I see... > they are there (P-R and R-P) but in SysRPL; in the 48/49 you wouldn't need > them but if you do: > RP :: > CK2&Dispatch > 2REAL > %REC>%POL > ; > @ > PR :: > CK2&Dispatch > 2REAL > %>POL%REC > ; > @ The above will work as the 41 ones; you might modify them slightly: RP :: > CK2&Dispatch > 2REAL > :: > %REC>%POL > %360 (to get angle ) > %MOD (between 0-360) > %>HMS (and even in DMS format > ; > ; > @ PR :: > CK2&Dispatch > 2REAL > :: > %HMS> (input angle in DMS format) > %POL>%REC > ; > ; > @ > === Subject: Re: hp49g+ Is there a flag to keep all angles positive in polar form? > Okay, I know I'm being lazy for asking this but how does one compile a > SysRPL program on the 49G/49G+ calculators? > My limited experience so far has been with User RPL and thought it > would be quicker if one of the HP guru's of this fantastic forum could > provide an answer. search for SysRPL in the www.hpcalc.org Eduard Kalinowsky has written an excellent book about SysRPL Read also the HP 48 version You need at least extable downloaded to your calc and saved in the Flash Your text source file should end with @ alone as the last line and start with...hmmmm.was it !NOCODE !RPL My memory is not so good, I'm still sick, but much better now. === Subject: Re: hp49g+ Is there a flag to keep all angles positive in polar form? > Okay, I know I'm being lazy for asking this but how does one compile a > SysRPL program on the 49G/49G+ calculators? > My limited experience so far has been with User RPL and thought it > would be quicker if one of the HP guru's of this fantastic forum could > provide an answer. > search for SysRPL in the www.hpcalc.org > Eduard Kalinowsky has written an excellent book about SysRPL > Read also the HP 48 version > You need at least extable downloaded to your calc and saved in the Flash > Your text source file should end with > alone as the last line and start with...hmmmm.was it > !NOCODE > !RPL > My memory is not so good, I'm still sick, but much better now. > wasn't as difficult as I thought it would be. Gary === Subject: Re: hp49g+ Is there a flag to keep all angles positive in polar form? no > When working with vectors angles greater than Pi (180 degrees) or less > than 0 are shown as negative angles. Is there a flag that can be set > to keep the angles positive? === Subject: TI-89 emulator for Mac OS X is there any TI-89 emulator for Mac OS X? === === Subject: HP 9G bug? I have foung a bug in the Citizen SRP-325G calculator (similar to HP 9G) http://www.leninburg.com/calc/srp-325g.php I have not a HP-9G in my hands, and can not test this bug. Can you help me and input a small test program in the HP-9G for the bug testing? Programm is following: FOR ( A=1; A<=10; A++ ) { GRAPH Y= .2 } If the bug will appeat, your data may be lost. Sergei Frolov http://www.rk86.com/frolov === Subject: Re: HP 9G bug? > Programm is following: > FOR ( A=1; A<=10; A++ ) { GRAPH Y= .2 } This is a known bug. Please refer to the HP 9g learning module Graphing Functions - Part 1 for a workaround: http://www.hp.com/calculators/docs/guides/9g/9ggraphone.pdf (Ex. 8) Jordi Hidalgo HPCC #1046 === Subject: Re: HP 9G bug?