B5A-Creation Graham Kendall Modified 5/7/2008 Email grahamkendall74135@yahoo.com I am found on IRC Efnet, Undernet, Dalnet as glk Files found at http://www.grahamkendall.net http://snipurl.com/yt8o my url http://tinyurl.com/ydjvt3 my url All are free to use any of this material without limit. ============================================================================== ==== THE FLORIDA ACADEMIC FREEDOM ACT If passed, the Academic Freedom Act (Senate Bill 2692/House Bill 1483) would provide fundamentalist religionists the opportunity to incorporate Bible-based religion into public school science curricula to be taught on equal footing with a scientific understanding of the biological, chemical and physical nature of the universe and their interrelationships. It is an attempt to introduce an ancient, pre- scientific era religious book the bible and, at least one scientifically discredited text Of Pandas and People, into science classrooms for equal consideration along with modern scientific texts, despite the fact that the basic science in the bible is mathematically false and the science in Pandas is inaccurate and misrepresents evolutionary theory. The mathematical symbol Pi does not equal three as calculated in First Kings, 7: 23-24 and Second Chronicles 4: 2-3. If such a travesty were to become law, the consequences will be dire since it could impair students' critical thinking skills and their ability to differentiate scientific from non-scientific information, thus negatively impacting their chances for success in the 21st century workplace. Florida's Legislature is aware that national and state political and economic survival depends on the ability of our scientists and engineers to compete in a scientifically and technologically oriented world by continuously developing new knowledge which can be translated into technological growth. That is why Florida and Palm Beach County spent time and money recruiting Scripps Institute as a base around which to build a biotechnology industry. The intellectual and creative minds required for such activities depend on the early inculcation and cultivation of accurately represented scientific knowledge in our public school classrooms. The integrated knowledge gained from the biological, geological, and cosmological sciences provides the best explanation( s) for the history of the planet and the diversity of life found thereon. Although scientists continue to engage in research on all aspects of evolution and their myriad ramifications, there is near universal agreement that evolution is a fact. Evolution is every bit a fact as is gravity. Dozhansky stated, over 50 years ago: "Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution." Unlike the Biblically based science of Creationism or Intelligent design, the core elements of evolution, as presented in textbooks today, have been repeatedly tested and verified by scientists throughout the world. Florida legislators should be proud that they passed new science standards. These standards, if implemented properly, make Florida a paradigm of what enlightened legislators should be doing and what an enlightened public school science curriculum should consist of. Floridians citizens and legislators should not permit the dilution of these standards by pandering to ignorance. Science is not about beliefs: in our democratic society people are free to believe whatever they want to believe. However, belief is not scientific knowledge: science is about knowing and how to know. Students should be tested on their knowledge of well-understood concepts as embodied in the recently passed state science standards. Legislators should insist that teachers adhere to the new standards and ensure that students spend their valuable classroom time learning, through classwork and homework, the best knowledge that centuries of scientific investigation have placed before them. Citizens and legislators should not permit precious tax dollars to be wasted in frivolous lawsuits that are bound to occur should the Academic Freedom Act pass. That money could be better spent on computers, science laboratories, science equipment, and library resources. Eric Hoffer wrote: "We have rudiments of reverence for the human body but we consider as nothing the rape of the human mind." There is a forty-plus-year history of Supreme Court and lower court decisions in which it was pointed out time and again that Creationism is religion, not science. In the latest case, Kitzmiller v Dover..., Intelligent Design was shown to be biblically based and false. Intelligent Design has no place in public school science curricula. The time has come for the Florida legislators to protect Florida's present and future: they must stop all attempts at deceiving the minds of Florida's youth and to prevent unnecessary drainage of hard earned tax dollars for lawyers. The Academic Freedom Act must not pass. == Only a name, ID, and absolutely no theory whatsoever. is amply presented by Behe and Dembski and No theory here, either. Ah, the logic that lies in argument from incredulity. I can't see how that could happen so it didn't. In the case of the bacterial flagellum, Behe demonstrated at the Dover trial that he had made no real effort to determine how a flagellum might evolve. He didn't want an explanation. He just wanted to say it couldn't happen. According to a review of his new book, Behe has backed off irreducible complexity completely. Right. We will have a scientific theory of intelligent design when you come up with a paper. == The only plans they seem to have is to intimidate teachers and confuse the issue. == Florida Senate Passes Evolution Challenge Bill Two senators from Tampa Bay squared off on the floor of the Florida Senate today in a fight over how evolution should be taught in public schools. Plant City Senator Ronda Storms introduced the Evolution Academic Freedom Act, which permits teachers to challenge the theory of evolution in science classes. This comes months after a state panel voted to require teaching evolution in Florida. Storms says her law would protect teachers who want to offer other theories for mankind's existence besides evolution. Tampa Senator Arthenia Joyner argued the law opens public school classrooms to debate on creationism, intelligent design and God's role in mankind's existence. Joyner said that debate belongs in church and at home, not in Florida's public schools.The bill passed 21-17 and now goes to the House. That chamber is considering a version of the bill that would not just permit, but require teachers to present "critical analysis" of the theory of evolution. The Senate rejected that version of the bill. == Excerpt from: http://static. cbslocal. com/station/ ktvt/docs/ 2008/April/ creation. pdf Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board Media Advisory Austin, April 23, 2008 The Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board's Academic Excellence and Research (AER) Committee today voted to recommend to the full Board that a proposal for a certificate of authority to offer a Master of Science degree in Science Education by the Institute for Creation Research (ICR) Graduate School not be approved. The Committee's decision was based on a recommendation by Texas Commissioner of Higher Education, Dr. Raymund Paredes. Commissioner Paredes based the recommendation on two considerations: 1) that ICR failed to demonstrate that the proposed degree program meets acceptable standards of science and science education; and 2) that the proposed degree is inconsistent with Coordinating Board rules which require the accurate labeling or designation of programs. Standard 12, Chapter 7 of Board rules requires that proposed programs "shall adequately cover the breadth of knowledge of the discipline taught" and that "degree level, degree designation, and designation of the major course of study should be appropriate to the curriculum offered." Since the proposed degree program inadequately covers key areas of science, it cannot be properly designated either as "science" or "science education." In his recommendation, Commissioner Paredes stressed that he was "not questioning the validity of religious belief as a means of comprehending the world and universe around us." However, he further stated that "Religious belief is not science. Science and religious belief are surely reconcilable, but they are not the same thing." The full Board is scheduled to vote on the recommendation of the AER Committee at the April 24, 2008 Board meeting. If the proposal is not approved, the ICR will have 45 days to file an appeal or 180 days to reapply for another certificate of authority. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Commissioner' s Recommendation on the Request by the Institute for Creation Research for a Certificate of Authority to Offer a Master of Science Degree in Science Education Dr. Raymund A. Paredes, Texas Commissioner of Higher Education April 23, 2004 The Institute for Creation Research (ICR) Graduate School first contacted Coordinating Board (CB) staff in July, 2005 to gather information regarding the application process for a Certificate of Authority (COA) to offer degree programs. Two years later, ICR formally submitted a request for a COA to offer an on-line Master of Science degree in Science Education. CB staff soon thereafter began the review process which typically includes the following: preliminary staff evaluation of the proposal; a site visit to the applying institution by CB staff and subject-matter experts; preparation of a draft assessment of the proposed program; response to draft assessment by the proposing institution; review of both the staff assessment and the institutional response by the Certification Advisory Council (CAC); and preparation of a final recommendation on approval by CB staff based on the preceding steps. The CAC recommendation then comes to me. I have three options: I can accept the recommendation and carry it to the Coordinating Board for formal action; I can reject the recommendation and make another to the Board; or I can send it back to the staff for further review. It is not unprecedented for me to exercise either option two or three: indeed, in the last several weeks I rejected a staff recommendation on a doctoral program proposal. I first learned of the ICR proposal after the CAC had voted to support the staff recommendation that the ICR proposal be approved. It was clear to me immediately that the review process had been flawed. The site visit team had included no experts in science education; one such expert had cancelled her participation at the last minute and the decision was made to proceed with the site visit anyway. Furthermore, the site visit team members were instructed to focus on questions of process and infrastructure and to disregard the academic focus of the proposed program. In its review, the CAC followed a similar tack and recommended provisional approval of the proposed program pending the correction of certain problems related to such issues as institutional governance and library resources. It seemed clear to me upon reading the various evaluation documents that the central issue of whether the proposed program met appropriate standards of science education had been insufficiently addressed. As a result, I directed staff to conduct a fresh review. I believe that the second-stage review was thorough and balanced. On January 7, 2008, we brought in a group of nine scientists and science educators to review the ICR proposal. They examined proposed admission standards, course prerequisites for the proposed program, syllabi and textbooks for the proposed ICR courses, and the mission statement of ICR. On January 10, 2008, we met with representatives of ICR to address questions raised earlier by the group of scientists and science educators. Shortly after the January 10 meeting, ICR representatives requested until March 26 to submit responses to the questions raised and also asked that their request for a certificate of authority be deferred until the April 24 CB meeting. ICR submitted an updated file for review by the requested deadline. CB staff in turn reconvened a group of science educators on April 7 to review the new materials. I have now received a staff recommendation, with which I concur. I recommend to members of the Coordinating Board that the proposal by the Institute for Creation Research Graduate School to receive a certificate of authority to offer a Master of Science program in Science Education not be approved. My recommendation to the Board is based on two considerations, the first of which is that ICR failed to demonstrate that the proposed program meets acceptable standards of science and science education. As indicated in a faculty job announcement, ICR requires that applicants "be committed to young earth creation science and the Bible;" in its current general catalog, ICR states that its mission "is to study, teach and communicate the works of God's creation." Also in the catalog appears this statement: "All things in the universe were created and made by God in the six literal days of the Creation Week described in Genesis...and confirmed in Exodus....The creation record is factual, historical and perspicuous; thus all theories of origin and development that involve evolution in any form are false." ICR's catalog also states "The phenomenon of biological life did not develop by natural processes from inanimate systems but was specially and supernaturally created by the creator." This statement runs counter to the conventions of science which hold that claims of supernatural intervention are not testable and, therefore, outside the realm of science. A primary educational goal of Texas and the country as a whole is to increase significantly the number of high school graduates who have mastered basic science and are prepared to pursue careers in science in our colleges and universities. The submitted ICR documents simply do not provide persuasive evidence that the proposed program will move us towards this goal. In Thousands... not Billions, a text used in ICR courses and submitted by ICR for review, the author Don DeYoung writes: "One principle agreed on... is that the earth is young, on the order of 6000 years old. This is not a working hypothesis to be tested as to whether it is true of false. Instead, it is a basic conclusion drawn from the biblical record of creation as written by the only One who was present, God himself." At another point, DeYoung writes: "It is clear that the One who created all things can alter physical constants and laws at His will. In fact, most biblical miracles require a temporary suspension of basic natural laws." Whatever the ultimate merit of such views, they clearly stand at odds with the most basic tenets of scientific work such as observation, testing and analysis. Furthermore, the proposed ICR program is inconsistent not only with the conventions of science but with Coordinating Board rules. For example, Standard 12, Chapter 7 of Board rules requires that proposed programs "shall adequately cover the breadth of knowledge of the discipline taught" and that "degree level, degree designation, and the designation of the major course of study should be appropriate to the curriculum offered...." As our consultants on science education emphasized, the proposed ICR program, in insisting on a literal interpretation of biblical creation, gives insufficient coverage to conventional science and does not "adequately prepare students in the field of science education." Program reviewers also noted the inherent difficulty of providing adequate training in experimentation and laboratory workhallmarks of effective science educationthrough an on-line program. Thus, the proposed ICR program meets neither standard cited above. The key point here is this: the proposed Master of Science in Science Education program inadequately covers key areas of science and their methodologies and rejects one of the foundational theories of modern science; hence, the program cannot be properly designated either as "science" or "science education." In recommending against approval of the ICR program, I am not questioning the validity of religious belief as a means of comprehending the world and universe around us. As far as I know, science has no answer to the question of how life on earth began or how the Big Bang was initiated some 14 billion years ago. Believers of many faiths might well attribute both these astonishing events to the intervention of a great Creator. It is entirely possible that science may never answer these fundamental questions and that, in these and other instances, religious belief supersedes science. But religious belief is not science. Science and religious belief are surely reconcilable but they are not the same thing. == How can they be sure humans and other apes aren't all one kind? == "Virtually every discipline and endeavour is presently under a naturalistic pall. To lift that pall will require a new generation of scholars and professionals who explicitly reject naturalism and consciously seek to understand the design that God has placed in the world," ~William A. Dembski, Intelligent Design, Downers Grove, Ilinois: InterVarsity Press, 1999. pp. 120-121. == Stones and Bones: Powerful Evidence Against Evolution (Paperback) by Carl Wieland (Author) == TX Creation College to Defend Science Degrees at Upcoming Ruling A Christian research institute, which is seeking to grant science degrees in Texas, is asking for prayers and support as it faces the final hearing before state education officials next week. The Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board (THECB) will decide at its regularly scheduled meeting next Thursday whether The Institute for Creation Research (ICR) can grant an online master's degree in Science Education. For the past few months, the school experienced several setbacks in getting state approval for its program, mostly due to a heightened battle between intelligent design and evolution playing out in the state and in Florida where public schools were recently required to teach evolution in science classes. The Dallas-based school has already cleared several hurdles, including an on-site evaluation by THECB Advisory Committee and the submission of a comparison study. Next Wednesday, ICR officials must also pass a cross-examination hearing in Austin that will determine THECB Commissioner Raymund Paredes's recommendation to the board. A e-mail update sent Thursday by Dr. Henry Morris, founder of ICR, reported that the April 23 hearing will also include an "unusual" half-hour session which will be open to public comments. Morris told The Christian Post that his contact, who has worked with THECB for 15 years, informed him that the Board never before authorized such a public comment session. Nevertheless, he said he was "confident" that the school's graduate program meets all the state standards for private higher education in Texas. "We think we have everything in order and then some," said Morris, who will be among the ICR representatives participating in the hearing. In his e-mail, which concluded with an endorsement of the film "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed," the ICR CEO invited nearby supporters, particularly educators who taught science or higher education in Texas, to consider signing up for one of the 10 slots for public comment. He also appealed to supporters to pray for an orderly and fair hearing. The science degree in question has been offered by ICR, which teaches from a literal biblical worldview, in California since 1981. The program has four concentrations: Astro-Geophysics, Biology, Geology and General Science, according to the institute's Web site. Critics of the ICR program have mainly questioned the science label of the degree. Eugenie Scott, executive director of National Center for Science Education, alleged the institute taught "distorted science," the Dallas Morning News reported earlier. Despite such criticism, Morris said the school will seek state approval for a science degree. "We have been told second-hand, through our contact, that their objection is that we are using the word 'science.' If we would just drop the word science," the approval would go through, said Morris. He argued that students exercise critical thinking skills when they are taught how to compare an evolutionary mindset to a creationist mindset. "How can you be a critical thinker if you don't know what the other side is?" he asked. "We think it makes a better student." After Wednesday's hearing, the Advisory Committee is expected to issue a formal recommendation to Paredes who will in turn present his own take on the ICR graduate program to the full Board on Thursday. The Board will then rule on whether to approve the school's science degree offering. The ICR has the option to appeal within 45 days and/or to reapply within 180 days if the Board rejects the application. In the case of approval, ICR will begin its effort to obtain accreditation from the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools. == OK HB 2200, by Kern, creates the Religious Viewpoints Antidiscrimination Act, directing a school district to treat the voluntary expression by a student of a religious viewpoint on an otherwise permissible subject in the same manner the district treats the expression by a student of a secular viewpoint. The bill requires each school district to adopt a policy on voluntary student expression of religious viewpoints, which must include the establishment of a limited public forum for student speakers at all school events at which a student is to publicly speak. The measure also permits students to express their religious beliefs in homework, artwork and other written and oral assignments free from discrimination based on the religious contents of their submissions. The bill also permits students to organize prayer groups or religious clubs before, during or after school to the same extent students are permitted to organize other noncurricular student groups. The bill also creates the Model Religious Viewpoints Antidiscrimination Policy as a policy for school districts to adopt; and HB 2211, by Kern and Williamson, creates the Religious Viewpoints Antidiscrimination Act, directing a school district to treat the voluntary expression by a student of a religious viewpoint the same as it treats a secular expression on an otherwise permissible subject and may not discriminate against the student based on a religious viewpoint. The bill directs school districts to adopt a policy, which shall include the establishment of a limited public forum for student speakers at all school events at which a student is to publicly speak. The measure contains a Model Religious Viewpoints Antidiscrimination Policy. The bill also authorizes students to express their religious beliefs in homework, artwork or other written and oral assignments. It allows students to organize prayer groups, religious clubs, "see you at the pole" gatherings or other religious gatherings before, during and after school to the same extent that students are permitted to organize other noncurricular student activities and groups. HB 2200 was assigned to the House Education Committee but was not heard. HB 2211 was approved by the same committee and won approval on the House floor March 13 on a vote of 71 to 25. It subsequently was assigned to the Senate Rules Committee where it was not heard. "We live in a country founded on religious freedom," Williamson said in a press release. "This legislation is a step forward in protecting the rights our students have in expressing their religious views at school. A student or group of students can no longer be discriminated based upon the content of their religious expression, which is the right our forefathers gave us all." == "Astronomy is not theology," said Copernicus. == Although many may not realize it, we are in the midst of a struggle to preserve sound science education. A recent survey by the National Science Teachers Association found that 30 percent of responding members had felt pressure to omit evolution and related topics from their teaching, while 31 percent had felt pressure to include nonscientific alternatives to evolution. It is crucial to resist such pressure, whether it comes from parents, community groups, administrators, or school board members. == According to a recent Gallup Poll, 45% of Americans believe that God create human beings in their present form at some point in the last 10,000 years. == 2005 Creationism Trial (Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District) http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Kitzmiller_ v._Dover_ Area_School_ District [link may be line-wrapped] Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial documents http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District_trial_documents Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District Decision by U.S. District Judge John E. Jones III (12/20/2005) http://coop. www.uscourts. gov/pamd/ kitzmiller_ 342.pdf 1987 Creationism Trial (Edwards v. Aguillard) U.S. Supreme Court Decision http://supreme. justia.com/ us/482/578/ case.html 1981 Creationism Trial (McLean v. Arkansas) McLean v. Arkansas Documentation Project http://www.antievol ution.org/ projects/ mclean/new_ site/ == Peloza v. Capistrano Unified School District: U.S. Court of Appeals, Ninth Circuit John E. PELOZA v. CAPISTRANO UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT High school biology teacher brought action against school district, its board of trustees, and various personnel at high school, challenging school district's requirement that he teach evolutionism, as well as school district order barring him from discussing his religious beliefs with students. The United States District Court, Central District of California, David W. Williams, J., 782 F.Supp. 1412, dismissed and awarded attorney fees to school district. Teacher appealed. The Court of Appeals held that: (1) teacher failed to state claim for violation of establishment clause of First Amendment in connection with school district's requiring him to teach evolution, i.e., that higher life forms evolved from lower ones; (2) school district's restriction on teacher's right of free speech in prohibiting teacher from talking with students about religion during school day, including times when he was not actually teaching class, was justified by school district's interest in avoiding establishment clause violation; (3) teacher's allegations of injury to his reputation as result of allegedly defamatory statements made to and about him were insufficient to support claim for deprivation of liberty interest under 1983; but (4) teacher's complaint was not entirely frivolous, precluding award of costs and attorney fees under Rule 11 and 1988. John E. Peloza is a high school biology teacher. He sued the Capistrano Unified School District and various individuals connected with the school district under 42 U.S.C. 1983. He alleges in his complaint that the school district requires him to teach "evolutionism" and that evolutionism is a religious belief system. He alleges this requirement violates his rights under the (1) Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment; (2) Establishment Clause of the First Amendment; (3) Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment; and (4) Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.(1) He also alleges the defendants conspired to violate these constitutional rights and attempted by harassment and intimidation to force him to teach evolutionism. He alleges they did this because they have a class-based animus against practicing Christians, a class of which he is a member, in violation of 42 U.S.C. 1985(3). He also alleges state law claims for violation of California's Tom Bane Civil Rights Act, Cal.Civ.Code 52.1 (which provides a cause of action for interference with an individual's enjoyment of rights secured by the United States or California Constitution or by federal or state law), and for intentional infliction of emotional distress. The district court dismissed the federal claims for failure to state a claim upon which relief could be granted. Fed.R.Civ.P. 12(b)(6). The court then dismissed the state claims for lack of jurisdiction. The court also determined that the action was frivolous. Relying on Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and 18 U.S.C. 1988, the court ordered Peloza and his attorney to pay approximately $32,000 to the defendants for their attorney fees and costs. THE ALLEGATIONS OF THE COMPLAINT The following summarizes the allegations of Peloza's complaint: Peloza is a biology teacher in a public high school, and is employed by the Capistrano Unified School District. He is being forced by the defendants (the school district, its trustees and individual teachers and others) to proselytize his students to a belief in "evolutionism" "under the guise of [its being] a valid scientific theory." Evolutionism is an historical, philosophical and religious belief system, but not a valid scientific theory. Evolutionism is one of "two world views on the subject of the origins of life and of the universe." The other is "creationism" which also is a "religious belief system." "The belief system of evolutionism is based on the assumption that life and the universe evolved randomly and by chance and with no Creator involved in the process. The world view and belief system of creationism is based on the assumption that a Creator created all life and the entire universe." Peloza does not wish "to promote either philosophy or belief system in teaching his biology class." "The general acceptance of ... evolutionism in academic circles does not qualify it or validate it as a scientific theory." Peloza believes that the defendants seek to dismiss him due to his refusal to teach evolutionism. His first amendment rights have been abridged by interference with his right "to teach his students to differentiate between a philosophical, religious belief system on the one hand and a true scientific theory on the other." Peloza further alleges he has been forbidden to discuss religious matters with students the entire time that he is on the school campus even if a conversation is initiated by a student and the discussion is outside of class time. He also alleges that the defendants have conspired to destroy and damage his professional reputation, career and position as a public school teacher. He has been reprimanded in writing for proselytizing students and teaching religion in the classroom. His inquiries as to whether he is being required to teach evolution as "fact" or "as the only valid scientific theory" have not been answered directly. He has not taught creationism in his classroom. He has been wrongly accused in the school newspaper and in the public press of teaching religion in his science class. He has been harassed by the defendant teachers and has received a formal written reprimand from defendant Thomas R. Anthony, the school principal, wrongly accusing him of proselytizing his students and teaching religion in the classroom, directing him to teach evolution as the only valid scientific theory, and forbidding him from teaching creationism as a valid scientific theory. Anthony further directed him not to discuss religion or attempt to convert students to Christianity while on campus. He has been criticized in a petition signed by faculty members for threatening litigation over the rights of faculty members to speak fully to the news media and each other. Peloza's complaint alleges that the school district has violated the Establishment Clause "by pressuring and requiring him to teach evolutionism, a religious belief system, as a valid scientific theory." Complaint at 19-20. Evolutionism, according to Peloza, "postulates that the 'higher' life forms ... evolved from the 'lower' life forms ... and that life itself 'evolved' from non-living matter." Id. at 2. It is therefore "based on the assumption that life and the universe evolved randomly and by chance and with no Creator involved in the process." Id. at 1. Peloza claims that evolutionism is not a valid scientific theory because it is based on events which "occurred in the non-observable and non-recreatable past and hence are not subject to scientific observation." Id. at 3. Finally, in his appellate brief he alleges that the school district is requiring him to teach evolutionism not just as a theory, but rather as a fact. [2] Peloza's complaint is not entirely consistent. In some places he seems to advance the patently frivolous claim that it is unconstitutional for the school district to require him to teach, as a valid scientific theory, that higher life forms evolved from lower ones. At other times he claims the district is forcing him to teach evolution as fact. Although possibly dogmatic or even wrong, such a requirement would not transgress the establishment clause if "evolution" simply means that higher life forms evolved from lower ones. Peloza uses the words "evolution" and "evolutionism" interchangeably in the complaint. This is not wrong or imprecise for, indeed, they are synonyms.(3) Adding "ism" does not change the meaning nor magically metamorphose "evolution" into a religion. "Evolution" and "evolutionism" define a biological concept: higher life forms evolve from lower ones. The concept has nothing to do with how the universe was created; it has nothing to do with whether or not there is a divine Creator (who did or did not create the universe or did or did not plan evolution as part of a divine scheme). [3] On a motion to dismiss we are required to read the complaint charitably, to take all well-pleaded facts as true, and to assume that all general allegations embrace whatever specific facts might be necessary to support them. Lujan V. Nat'l Wildlife Federation, 497 U.S. 871, 889, 110 S.Ct. 3177, 3189, 111 L.Ed.2d 695 (1990); Abmmson V. Brownstein, 897 F.2d 389, 391 (9th Cir.1990). Charitably read, Peloza's complaint at most makes this claim: the school district's actions establish a state-supported religion of evolutionism, or more generally of "secular humanism." See Complaint at 24, 20. According to Peloza's complaint, all persons must adhere to one of two religious belief systems concerning "the origins of life and of the universe:" evolutionism, or creationism. Id. at 2. Thus, the school district, in teaching evolutionism, is establishing a state-supported "religion." We reject this claim because neither the Supreme Court, nor this circuit, has ever held that evolutionism or secular humanism are "religions" for Establishment Clause purposes. Indeed, both the dictionary definition of religion(4) and the clear weight of the case law(5) are to the contrary. The Supreme Court has held unequivocally that while the belief in a divine creator of the universe is a religious belief, the scientific theory that higher forms of life evolved from lower forms is not. Edwards V. Aguillard. 482 U.S. 578, 107 S.Ct. 2573, 96 L.Ed.2d 510 (1987) (holding unconstitutional, under Establishment Clause, Louisiana's "Balanced Treatment for Creation-science and Evolution-Science in Public School Instruction Act"). Peloza would have us accept his definition of "evolution" and "evolutionism" and impose his definition on the school district as its own, a definition that cannot be found in the dictionary, in the Supreme Court cases, or anywhere in the common understanding of the words. Only if we define "evolution" and "evolutionism" as does Peloza as a concept that embraces the belief that the universe came into existence without a Creator might he make out a claim. This we need not do. To say red is green or black is white does not make it so. Nor need we for the purposes of a 12(b)(6) motion accept a made-up definition of "evolution." Nowhere does Peloza point to anything that conceivably suggests that the school district accepts anything other than the common definition of "evolution" and "evolutionism." It simply required him as a biology teacher in the public schools of California to teach "evolution." Peloza nowhere says it required more. The district court dismissed his claim, stating: Since the evolutionist theory is not a religion, to require an instructor to teach this theory is not a violation of the Establishment Clause.... Evolution is a scientific theory based on the gathering and studying of data, and modification of new data. It is an established scientific theory which is used as the basis for many areas of science. As scientific methods advance and become more accurate, the scientific community will revise the accepted theory to a more accurate explanation of life's origins. Plaintiffs assertions that the teaching of evolution would be a violation of the Establishment Clause is unfounded. Id. at 12-13. We agree. B. Free Speech [4] Peloza alleges the school district ordered him to refrain from discussing his religious beliefs with students during "instructional time," and to tell any students who attempted to initiate such conversations with him to consult their parents or clergy. He claims the school district, in the following official reprimand, defined "instructional time" as any time the students are on campus, including lunch break and the time before, between, and after classes: You are hereby directed to refrain from any attempt to convert students to Christianity or initiating conversations about your religious beliefs during instructional time, which the District believes includes any time students are required to be on campus as well as the time students immediately arrive for the purposes of attending school for instruction, lunch time, and the time immediately prior to students' departure after the instructional day. Complaint at 16. Peloza seeks a declaration that this definition of instructional time is too broad, and that he should be allowed to participate in student-initiated discussions of religious matters when he is not actually teaching class.(6) The school district's restriction on Peloza's ability to talk with students about religion during the school day is a restriction on his right of free speech. Nevertheless, "the Court has repeatedly emphasized the need for allowing the comprehensive authority of the States and of school officials, consistent with fundamental constitutional safeguards, to prescribe and control conduct in the schools While at the high school, whether he is in the classroom or outside of it during contract time, Peloza is not just any ordinary citizen. He is a teacher. He is one of those especially respected persons chosen to teach in the high school's classroom. He is clothed with the mantle of one who imparts knowledge and wisdom. His expressions of opinion are all the more believable because he is a teacher. The likelihood of high school students equating his views with those of the school is substantial. To permit him to discuss his religious beliefs with students during school time on school grounds would violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. Such speech would not have a secular purpose, would have the primary effect of advancing religion, and would entangle the school with religion. In sum, it would flunk all three parts of the test articulated in Lemon V. Kurtzman,-403 U.S. 602, 91 S.Ct. 21O5, 29 L.Ed.2d 745 (1971). See Roberts V. Madigan, 921 F.2d 1047, 1O56-58 (loth Cir.1990) (teacher could be prohibited from reading Bible during silent reading period, and from stocking two books on Christianity on shelves, because these things could leave students with the impression that Christianity was officially sanctioned), cert. denied, -U.S. -, 112 S.Ct. 3025,120 L.Ed.2d 896 (1992). C. Due Process [5] Peloza alleges that some of the defendants made defamatory statements to and about him, and that these statements damaged his reputation. He alleges this was state action which violated his right to due process under the Fourteenth Amendment. The district court did not err in dismissing the part of Peloza's section 1983 claim which was predicated on an alleged violation of his right to due process under the Fourteenth Amendment. II. The Section 1985(3) Claim In support of his claim under 42 U.S.C. 1985(3), Peloza alleges in his complaint that the defendants conspired to deprive him of equal protection of the laws under the Fourteenth Amendment; free speech under the First and Fourteenth Amendments; life, liberty or property without due process of law under the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments; and the free exercise of his religious beliefs under the First and Fourteenth Amendments. In addition, he alleges the defendants violated his rights under the Establishment Clause of the First and Fourteenth Amendments. He alleges that the defendants engaged in this conspiracy pursuant to their class-based animus against practicing Christians.(7) Because Peloza failed to allege a conspiracy to do something that would violate his free speech or due process rights, or his rights under the Establishment Clause, his section 1985(3) claim predicated on a violation of these rights falls. We do not decide whether free speech, due process rights, or Establishment Clause rights, fall within the protection of section 1985(3).(8) Schoolteacher John Peloza seeks a declaratory judgment permitting him to "respond to student-initiated inquiries ... regarding religion" during contract time. The majority opinion concludes that if Peloza's discussions would constitute an establishment of religion, the District may permissibly limit those discussions, even though such limitations restrict Peloza's free speech. With this I have no quarrel. But the majority's premise is that any discussions Peloza might have do constitute such an establishment, and I am unpersuaded that we may reach such a conclusion in the case's present posture. This is an appeal from the granting of a Rule 12(b)(6) motion. As such, we are not permitted to affirm dismissal of the complaint "unless it appears beyond doubt that plaintiff can prove no set of facts in support of his claim which would entitle him to relief." Love V. United States, 915 F.2d 1242, 1245 (9th Cir.1989). At this stage, we know almost nothing about what past or future discussions might involve. I can imagine a wide range of circumstances and questions "regarding religion" which Peloza could permissibly answer without violating the Establishment Clause. For example, a student might come to a teacher during lunch and ask about Malcolm X or Martin Luther King's religious beliefs, and how and why they evolved, or about the origins of Islam, or what the seven great religions of the world were. Such questions would certainly be "regarding religion," student-initiated, and during contract time. As such, they fall within the class of discussions Peloza seeks to be permitted, yet it is hard to see how the descriptive role a teacher would have in responding to these questions would work any violation of the Establishment Clause. The majority holding only makes sense if we presume that we know what kinds of questions are being asked and what kinds of answers Peloza would give. In the posture of this case, where we must reverse if there are any facts Peloza could conceivably prove which would entitle him to relief, this is a presumption we are forbidden from making. As a result, the majority holding means that any response to a student-initiated inquiry "regarding religion" during contract time, other than "Ask someone else," works a violation of the Establishment Clause. I cannot join in such a broad legal holding, and indeed the case law forbids it: Roberts V. Madigan, 921 F.2d 1047 (10th Cir.1990), upon which the majority relies, is not to the contrary. There, the court had before it a host of particulars: the conduct at issue involved a teacher displaying religious books and a poster reading "You have only to open your eyes to see the hand of God" in the classroom. Id. at 1049. That court also had the benefit of a district court factual determination that the conduct "created the appearance that [the teacher] was seeking to advance his religious views." Id. As this case stands, we know far less. The majority impermissibly attempts to narrow the scope of Peloza's complaint by relying on a written warning from the school district which Peloza has incorporated into the complaint. The letter forbids Peloza from "attempt[ing] to convert students to Christianity or initiating conversations about your religious beliefs." Complaint at 45. Were this all that the complaint said, I would have little trouble joining the majority. But the complaint alleges more; it contends that "the school district ... has directed Plaintiff not to discuss any religious matters during any of this 'instructional time,' including student-initiated conversations regarding religion during lunch, class breaks, and before and after school hours." Complaint at 3. This allegation we must take as true. If all that lies behind it is the far narrower warning the majority cites, then Peloza's case will not be long for this world. But we may not presume that this is so. I believe that, in a broad range of cases, the majority and I could agree about what would or would not constitute a violation of the Establishment Clause. But the majority errs in presuming to know that what is at stake here is Peloza's right to "discuss his religious beliefs" with students. In doing so, it ignores the fact that this is a Rule 12(b)(6) case. More generally, it gives short shrift to the possibility that we may well be limiting free speech more broadly than the state's compelling interest in avoiding an establishment of religion would warrant. == Creationist College Advances in Texas Texas is fast becoming a key state not only in debates over evolution but over what kind of government scrutiny is important and legitimate when reviewing colleges with particular ideologies. On Friday, an advisory committee to the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board recommended that the state allow the Institute for Creation Research to start offering online masters degrees in science education. The institute, which has been based in California, where it operates a museum and many programs for people who dont believe in evolution, is relocating to Dallas, where it hopes to expand its online education offerings. In Texas, the institute needs either regional accreditation (for which is applying, but which will take some time) or state approval to offer degrees. Some science groups are aghast by the idea that Texas would authorize masters degrees in science education that are based on complete opposition to evolution and literal acceptance of the Bible. And these groups are particularly concerned because the students in these programs would be people who are or want to be school teachers. Complicating matters, the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board will be taking up the issue in the wake of an August ruling by the Texas Supreme Court questioning the grounds on which the board had evaluated seminaries and warning the board not to impose secular values on seminaries. The ruling was seen at the time as making it harder for the state to deny licenses to religious institutions. Raymund A. Paredes, commissioner of higher education for Texas, stressed in an interview Sunday that the advisory panels vote was just that: advisory. But he noted that the boards decision next month would be sensitive and said he would be asking the boards general counsel to study the impact of the August Supreme Court decision on the issue. Officials of the Institute for Creation Research could not be reached for comment, but there is extensive information about the institutes programs on its Web site. The list of courses required for the master of science education includes a number that are fairly standard ("Advanced Educational Psychology and Instructional Design, for example), but also some that are not. Advanced Studies in Creationism features this description: Scientific study of the creationist and evolutionist cosmologies; origin and history of the universe, of the solar systems, of life, of the various forms of life, and of man and his cultures. Critical analysis of both creation and evolutionary theory using data from paleontology, astronomy, biochemistry, genetics, thermodynamics, statistics, and other sciences. Study of geologic principles and earth history in the light of Creation and the Flood; scientific comparative studies of recent creation; application of principles of Biblical creationism in various fields. That language, and other comments made by institute officials, suggest that students would be exposed to the science of evolution. But other material on the institutes Web site suggests that one could not teach or study at the institute while accepting the overwhelmingly broad scientific consensus about evolution. The statement of faith for everyone at the institute requires support for both scientific creationism and Biblical creationism. The former includes the belief that humans were created in fully human form from the start and that the universe was created perfect by the creator. The latter includes the beliefs that the Bible is literally true and free from error of any sort, scientific and historical as well as moral and theological. Specifically, the statement requires belief in the literal creation of the earth in six days, that Adam and Eve were the first humans, and in the virgin birth of Jesus. Paredes, the commissioner of higher education, said it was way too early to get worked up about the prospect of creationism degrees being awarded. He said he would be making a recommendation to the coordinating board based ultimately on what is in the best interests of college students in Texas and that since this program would train teachers, he would take an even broader perspective of what is best for all students. Asked for his views on evolution, Paredes said I accept the conventions of science and I believe evolution has a legitimate place in the teaching of science. But he declined to say that evolution should be taught as the science. A lot of people believe creationism is a legitimate point of view. I respect them, Paredes said. Im an advocate of the principle that when there is a controversy and there are legitimate arguments on both sides of the conflict, my pedagogical principle is teach the conflict. Maybe thats a possibility here. In taking that view, Paredes is following the lead of many successful Texas politicians, including one in the White House, who have argued that anti-evolution theories that have been discredited should be taught alongside evolution. Paredes also raised the possibility that the board might approve the program with a name other than science education. If there isnt sufficient conventional content, he said, maybe its a matter of locating this program in its proper disciplinary realm. For now, Paredes stressed that no final decisions have been made. Dan Quinn, a spokesman for the Texas Freedom Network, which describes itself as a mainstream voice to counter the religious right, said he was worried that Texas statutes may not give the coordinating board enough power to block the awarding of creationist science education degrees. Quinn said that the issue should not be framed around religious freedom, but protecting students and their parents. The state is going to end up licensing degrees as science that arent science. What makes it worse is that the degrees are advanced degrees to teach science, he said. We dont want anybody to be fooled that someone is getting a degree in real science when its not what would be happening. Science and religion The USA already is consider by many both within and without the nation as a wasteland of educationthe advent and push toward making faith a legitimate science will destroy what little credibility exists in online education. To ignore hundreds of years of scientific research and writing is tantamount to the Flat Earth Society and places Galileo and others in the role of hacks. For the Texas Board of Education or any accrediting agency to consider the absurdity of a Master of Science Education in the myth of creationism is tantamount to backsliding into the Middle Ages where emotions ruled over reason and logic. Theme parks already exist showing mortal beings walking beside dinosaursan fantasy not even considered by Disney but backed by millions. If this continues, biblical literalists can ultimate return to biblical dietary laws forbidding the eating of shellfish, the wearing of synthetic fibers, and devolve to the insanity of fundamentalist theocracies such as those today expounding shariah (law, seen as deriving from the Koran, hadith, ijma , and qiyasnot just the Koran), and ultimately TV, computers, and all science as we know it will be erased in a manner similar to the Taliban (theological students) tossing TVs out of the windows in Pakistan, and blowing up the ancient Buddhas along the Silk Trail. It is time that thinking individuals stand up against this insanity, and demand that state boards judge on provable realities not personal beliefs. Who would hire these graduates Im surprised by the Chicken Little reaction from opponents of creation science. Do you really think this degree program is going to create a deluge of secondary teachers who denounce evolution in public school classrooms across the nation ? The graduates of this program will be hired by Christian schools. Putting aside the creation science debate, this online degree program will likely improve the overall level of education in thousands of Christian schools across the country. teach the controversy The success of the Discovery Institutes persistent message of teach the controversy is reflected in the Commissioners apparent support of this seductive approach. Americans want to be fair and, as a result, if there is a controversy, the reaction that it is only fair to teach both sides. However, its not fair to teach as science, material that is not supported by evidence and misconstrues the history and nature of the natural world. The fairness concept was put to test in California during R. Reagans time as Governor when there was a concerted effort to give equal time to creationism and evolution. A group of satanists then argued for equal time as well. The use of fairness in determining what should be included in the science curriculum gets messy! In considering the place of creationism in the science curriculum, the first consideration must be given to the evidence that supports its conceptual framework. Evidence that the earth was created in 6 days and is very young is lacking. Its not fair to teach that it is. Not just Christian Schools It is untrue that only Christian schools will hire these potential graduates of science". There is already a majority unbelievably of Americans who dont believe in evolution. There are many public school teachers who, either lacking science degrees and teaching science because the district cannot attract qualified applicants often in rural or poor urban districts or science teachers who have drunk the Kool Aid and teach the controversy despite the fact that Creationism cannot be tested according to the scientific method. Ray Paredes is a smooth politician, as one with any influence in Texas has to be to survive. Whats clear is that he is slicing and dicing and very evasive in his comments. He mentions giving them accreditation but maybe in another discipline, not science. What is not clear is whether the Commissioners as a whole will either fold to the Christian Taliban in Texas or stand up for legitimacy and sanity Absurdity Call it a degree in religion or philosophy but you cannot call this a degree in science. Im not an academic(barely graduating with a degree in psychology) but my understanding of science is that it is the pursuit of understanding that relies on a very disciplined approach to problem solving an approach that has and is serving the betterment of mankind. To contend that certain gaps that are unexplained by science proves the existence of a benevolent creator, or that the Bible a book written by men 2000 years ago is the definitive guide to life is just absurd. If we had pursued such a line of thinking we would still be living in the dark ages. That we are even having this debate in 2007 is a greater absurdity. What makes this course so different than that of the Islamist radicals who believe women represent too great a temptation to men and should be covered when in public....You may say that it is different but it isnt really it is suggesting that our intellect is too small to grasp the workings of universe or in the case of Islamists we cannot be expected to control our primal urges.... Wake up Texas! Educational Freedom As an American citizen who has worked overseas among people with very different world views, I find the concern over ICRs educational program to be unnecessary. People around the world do use education to teach everything from atheism to creationism. Many public schools outside of the USA also teach their local religion in the classroom. What it ultimately comes down to is the right of free citizens to teach and to study at institutions whose world view or philosophy of education they accept. It is faulty to compare belief in a flat earth with belief in God or creation. Technology readily verifies the earths current situation. What happened in ancient history, on the other hand, is based on various assumptions and on what sources of information one views as reliable. PISA Rankings America Tanking Results released today from the 2006 Program for International Student Assessment (PISA) show that the average science achievement of American 15-year-olds was significantly below the OECD average, comparable to performance in the Slovak Republic and non-OECD countries like Latvia and Lithuania. In mathematics, students in the U.S. also performed below the international average, comparable to non-OECD countries like Croatia and Azerbaijan.The same holds true when examining the data for student groups. In science, Americas best and brightest are at the middle of the pack when compared to the top performers elsewhere, while the percentage of our students performing at the lowest achievement levels is significantly higher than the international average. When considering students socioeconomic status (SES), both our high SES and low SES students perform below the international average in science for each group, respectively. By any other name It sounds as if this institute is mis-named. May I recommend The Institute of Biblical Inerrancy as an alternative? May I also suggest a course be added on Science-Verified Miracles? I trust that somewhere among the course syllabi one will find as a required text Jacobs most informative book entitled The Year of Living Biblically". Creation science college in Texas So many times the debates over creation vs evolution appear in the light most of the writers here cast them in: either/or. Either you are a real scientist, and have NOT ONE QUESTION about evolutionary mechanisms (because, even in grad school, one can be run out on a rail for asking any) or you are characterized as an idiot. Why do non-beleivers insist that any belief, even based on tons of personal experience of answer prayers, etc., makes one stupid? To most thoghtful Christians, a belief without understanding is useless. And, too often, whats really going on in evolutionary biology classes is a form of rote memorization of what phylogenetic tree leads to what. If a student says Well, where did the 28 enzymes needed for glycolysis come from? they are derided as if an ignoramous instead of encouraged to go and try to find out! Lets try a different track-back in the 70s we used to say Question authority. Maybe one reason Americans KEEP doing so bad on International science tests is we simply will not encourage them to question-especiallly the details of evolutionary mechanisms. Dont throw out the theory, just start getting kids used to saying I wonder how that happened? again instead of saying life HAD to evolve from a chemical soup, because theres no other way it could have gotten here. God works better for me than panspermia-and no lab experiment since the famous 1957 work of Stanley Miller has yet succeeded in making life from non-life. Why not encourage kids to question why that is so, instead of demanding they accept it happened because we said so? Dr. Tony Husemanns comments are excellent. It sounds like his approach would stop the arguements and put discovery back into education. Discoveries happen two opposing ideas are allowed to test the other persons positions. Nothing is discovered when when one side says this is the answer and there will be no discussion. Belief vs Fact The quotes in this story highlight several of the issues that some proponents of creationism like the Institute deliberately seek to obscure when they argue for the inclusion of intelligent design and other creationist viewpoints in science classrooms. First, they correctly identify that creationism is a belief system. The tenets of this belief system are built on faith, not on the rigorous scrutiny and development of the system through methods of scientific inquiry. Second, they incorrectly insinuate that science is a belief system. Science deals with fact rooted in the natural, observable universe, not with beliefs. To say that one believes in science reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of how science functions and its place in society. Science is a tool that humans use to explore and describe the principles that govern the operation of the natural, observable world. One can accept or reject facts as they are determined by science, but expressing a belief or disbelief in science itself is tantamount to expressing belief or disbelief in a hammer, lawnmower, computer program or any other tool. It doesnt make any sense. Finally, the quotes clearly illustrate that some actors in this movement hold to the principle that popular opinion should determine the content of material covered in academic disciplines. The more one thinks about this contention, the more ludicrous it seems. The content of academic disciplines is determined by the practitioners of the discipline in the same way that the rules of a sport are determined by the governing body of that sport. Neither the courts nor the court of popular opinion are ever going to define the scope of scientific knowledge. That is for scientists alone to decide. Creationists dont even believe their own slogans Maybe one reason Americans KEEP doing so bad on International science tests is we simply will not encourage them to question-especiallly the details of evolutionary mechanisms. Dr. Husemann, what an offensive comment. My professors and research mentors have always encouraged me to question not just evolution, but EVERYTHING. How, exactly, do you propose to raise questioning graduate students if you dont teach them the basic, foundational facts of evolution, physics, immunology, whatever, when they are children? Its funny you chose to make this particular statement, because at a recent presentation at OU, Creationist William Dembski degraded college and graduate students who dared to question him by proclaiming they were only speaking up so they could suck up to their professors. So elementary school children should be able to read and understand primary research literature, but graduate students grilling Creationists are sucking up? Creationists speaking out both sides of their mouths is unattractive and pathetic. The proposal to offer Masters degrees in creation science is indicative of the fact that we have become a nation of idiots. As someone pointed out the teach the controversy approach is a ploy developed by the Discovery Institute to push their nonsensical religious agenda. It is particularly sad that they are targeting the children of our country. So rather than actually teach science we have individuals like Tony Housemann suggesting that classes in evolutionary biology taught by actual scientists are simply rote memorization of phylogenies. This is absolute rubbish. In fact my students learn to question anything that is not based upon emipirical evidence as well as the important concept of falsifiability (see Karl Popper). I teach them (among other things) that phylogenies are hypotheses of evolutionary relationships that are based upon empirical data and also that all hypotheses are subject to additional data collection and interpretation. In all cases they are encouraged to disagree and discuss anything I teach them. After all science is based upon challenging new hypotheses that are advanced in light of how well they are supported by experimental evidence. To date there is no empirical evidence that God even exists let alone actually created anything. If anyone has any, I and the rest of the world are waiting. The little voice in your head or the feeling you get when you see the sunset or read the scripture are subjective evidence and do not count in matters of science. For thousands of years we have begun to understand the universe in terms of natural phenomena. As we have learned more we have banished most religious nonsense to the scrapheap of superstition where it belongs. I agree with Garry Yeager and Tony Housemann in that when a genuine controversy exists we should teach it but to accord creationism, intelligent design, or so called creation science as valid alternatives to evolution is like saying I should teach reproduction along with the alternative- the spontaneous generation of life. I wonder if I would be shouted down if I enrolled at the Institute for creation science and started to question their belief in the inerrant truth of the Bible. Get with it folks its the 21st century not the 14th. Jim Bonacum, Assistant professor of Genetics at University of Illinois at Springfield, Believing in God does not mean a person is ignorant. This is my whole issue with intellectuals". If someone doesnt agree with you, they are obviously ignorant. I think the fact that you cant even possibly try to understand another persons point of view shows who is truly ignorant. Are you afraid of a paradigm shift? I think it would be great to have a creationist point of view thrown back into the mix. Science is not the end all be all that you imply. Its simply science. Asking questions about evolutionary mechanisms, enzyme evolution and all the rest is just what one does in science education, especially biology graduate school. Contrary to Dr. Husemann, *not* asking questions would get you nowhere in science. But giving up and saying Never mind. The Designer did it is scientifically useless. Go forth and find evidence of a Designer doing things, then come back and tell us about it. Thin edge of the wedge What it ultimately comes down to is the right of free citizens to teach and to study at institutions whose world view or philosophy of education they accept. Sounds great but is simply a dodge, as are the other Oh, lets just be fair to the other side or lets question the scientific dogma comments. Biblical fundamentalists should be and are indeed free to study and teach whatever they want. They can and do set up their own schools and publish their own scientific textbooks. And so it goes. The difference here is that these so-called scientists (and their ideological think tank colleagues) now want the state to certify their dogma as science, even though it is in no way testable or vaguely scientific. Having failed (so far) in Kansas and Pennsylvania, the inerrantists are heading to Texas, where they believe they will have a better chance of getting the thin edge of the wedge inserted into the discussion over legitmate science education. Teach creationism where it belongs, in a comparative religion or philosophy class. Just dont pretend its science. Its not the other side to evolution. Its a non-scientific, religious worldview that has no place in public science classrooms. Martianism There are those interested in teaching the controversy. They believe so long as there is a controversy, the only fair thing to do is to teach both sides and allow the students to decide. Therefore, in addition to creationism, I submit Martianism the belief that all Earth creatures, including humans, flew from Mars in a wooden Ark, exactly 19,625 years and 2 days ago. Make that 15 days, allowing for leap years.There is exactly the same amount of scientific evidence for Martianism as there is for creationism, so I respectfully request that Martianism be included in all science courses, and that students be taught the controversy. Tony Husemanns argument is disingenuous. This should have nothing to do with ones attitude, positive or negative, towards religious beliefs. Thats a matter for comparative religion class. We are concerned about what gets taught in science class. It actually doesnt have much to do with whether you think life originated by Divine Providence, panspermia, or chemical reactions in a primordial sea either. Evolution, the theory, also describes what happens after life originates how species change and new ones arise. Creationism has a different view. Its one thing to hold it as a belief, but not acceptable to pass it off as content worthy of a science class. If somebody told you that their religious beliefs dictated that steel is three times stronger than aluminum because of Divine Providence rather than because of its atomic and crystalline structure, and that they wanted to teach their metallurgy class that way, would you allow it to count for a degree in structural engineering and send the students off to build bridges? If I were faced with that person, Id say you can believe what you want but you better _teach_ the students the crystalline structure. And if your beliefs wont let you teach the crystalline structure, you need to think about whether you are qualified to teach this material. Even though you accept that steel is in fact three times stronger than aluminum. Its not enough to teach the facts right, you have to teach the generally accepted theory right as well. How intelligently was I designed? I am a reasonably religious person. I am not sure of an after-life, but I like to keep my options open. Suppose there is. As I have grown closer to that time when I might know for sure, I realize I have a fake hip, a few stents in my heart, and my prostate has been zapped. Was the first me more intelligently designed, or is this revised one better? Which one will enter heaven? (I do believe the other location will be overcrowded with those darned atheists, so housing will be available to me.) I just read that we are getting closer to replacing genes that might be the cause of breast cancer, so what about all the women who undergo this little improvement? Wait a sec, am I discussing how our species might be evolving? Impossible, remember we were intelligently designed. Hmm, I do have a couple of friends who resemble cro-mangens. Disingenuous arguments Okay, so all graduate programs encourage debate on evolutionary theory? Well, maybe they have started to since I went to grad school, but, long before having any creationist leanings, I recall asking about one of Fishers arguments on the evolution of social behavior. Fisher was a kind of guru for that field in the late 70s, and my two Ph.D. professors literally knocked over their chairs, leaping up on the edge of our big, respectable conference table and yelling simulataneously You mean you dont believe in the theory of evolution!?! It was then I discovered I had, indeed, touched on a belief system", not a scientific argument, at all. I dont believe in gravity, was my response. I can test it and verify it, and I dont need complex sounding thought experiments as justification. I can actually point out the processes. Heres all I am challenging the rest of the biological community with-what can we teach in evolution that kids in HS, for example (15 year olds were the subject of the PISA test) can actually test and verify for themselves? Let them try Millers apparatus. Let them explain how the fossil record does support biological evolution, and then dont dodge the anachronistic fossils or the fact that some proposed ancestoral forms of birds (Microraptor) come eons AFTER their own descendents. And, may I submit this one for evolutionary consideration: get back to a green version of BSCS. WHAT good comes of explaining how species come and go, if we forget to emphasize extinction? Biologists, I suggest, were put here (evolved?) to teach the rest of humanity what will happen to the human race if we keep ruining the planet were on! THAT is something worth doing as biologists, and especially as biological educators. All the rest of the evolutionary debate, while interesting, might just ultimately prove moot-if we die out before evolving past the need for a livable biosphere. (Oh, and as a lefty", I hope youll indulge my obvious letter-reversals. No two letters cant be reversed, I always say!) Let them explain how the fossil record does support biological evolution, and then dont dodge the anachronistic fossils or the fact that some proposed ancestoral [sic] forms of birds (Microraptor) come eons AFTER their own descendents. Perhaps Dr Husemann can support the above statement, especially in the light of the paper by Chatterjee and Templin in PNAS, which clearly discusses the hypotheses for how Microraptor falls in the evolution of avian flight: Chatterjee S and RJ Templin (2007). Biplane wing planform and flight performanceof the feathered dinosaur Microraptor. PNAS 104(5): 1576-1580 Tony, graduate programs dont encourage _debate_ on evolutionary theory, because it is too well established to debate. They ought to explain it, but they dont have an obligation to devote lots of class time to things that are wrong or have no explanatory power (ID being one such). The same goes for my example about the metallurgy of steel and aluminum. Now, if you want to say that your professors did not engage you in a polite explanation of why evolution is well supported by the observations, maybe you have a valid complaint. But that does not mean that you get to teach your _beliefs_ about evolution and call it science. Im an astrophysicist, not an evolutionary biologist. I frequently encounter people who have misconceptions about astronomy, or even think theres some kind of grand conspiracy to cover up that the Big Bang didnt happen. I figure I have an obligation to try to educate them. But frankly, they are wrong and their theories usually cant withstand even modest scrutiny. While Im happy to answer questions, Im not going to present their views in class as an acceptable alternative. Just because somebody believes some idea does not make it a valid deduction about the natural world. Not all science can be done in high school labs Tony Husemann asks, (W)hat can we teach in evolution that kids in HS... can actually test and verify for themselves? Coming up with such exercises is a worthy goal, but if teaching was limited by what could be done in a high school lab, huge chunks of science would be removed. Atomic physics, geology, and astronomy all come to mind. Dr. Husemann writes: Maybe one reason Americans KEEP doing so bad on International science tests is we simply will not encourage them to question. My university did not require a statement of faith in order for me to gain admission. I notice that your K-12 school requires a statement of faith of both your prospective students and your prospective teachers. Your employment application also specifically asks prospective teachers to state their position on evolution vs. creationism before you will hire them. Interestingly enough, so does the Institute for Creation Research. Your words are pretty. Maybe your actions should mirror them. Dr. Husemann tells of professors leaping up and shouting You mean you dont believe in the theory of evolution? as evidence that he had stumbled upon a belief system. How laughable! Imagine a student who declared that he did not believe in gravity, or the seriality of numbers, or the heliocentric model of the solar system. Such nonsense would induce many of us to leap up and shout out in incredulity not because the student had offended a belief system, but because the students own belief system had led him/her into willful ignorance of empirical reality. The worst of it is, as the intelligent design cabal demonstrates regularly, such people are impervious to rational argument. One is always tempted to shout, if only in the fond hope of awakening them. Lets make this short and sweet. It would be taken for granted by any serious historian that any ideology or worldview would partake of the culture in which it grew up and would also be largely influenced by the personality of the writer of the theory. No less a genius than the evil Karl Marx noted that even after capitalism succumbed to Communism, society would still be imbued with the class artifacts and cultural values of the system that preceded it. Much smarter analysts than I have noted that the whole system of Marxism, especially its sharp attacks on capitalists as a class, was motivated by Karl Marxs envy of the much wealthier industrialist/capitalist members of the Marx family. In other words, major theories do not arise out of thin air. They come from the era in which they arose and are influenced greatly by the personality and background of the writer. (In law, this theory is known as legal realism. Judges make up their minds on the basis of their prejudices and then rationalize their decisions by pretending to be bound by prior case law. One might call what happens with ideologies political realism. Persons make up their ideologies based on their times and their life situations.) Darwinism, the notion that the history of organisms was the story of the survival of the fittest and most hardy, and that organisms evolve because they are stronger and more dominant than others, is a perfect example of the age from which it came: the age of Imperialism. When Darwin wrote, it was received wisdom that the white, northern European man was destined to rule the world. This could have been rationalized as greedi.e., Europeans simply taking the resources of nations and tribes less well organized than they were. It could have been worked out as a form of amusement of the upper classes and a place for them to realize their martial fantasies. (Was it Shaw who called Imperialism outdoor relief for the upper classes?) But it fell to a true Imperialist, from a wealthy British family on both sides, married to a wealthy British woman, writing at the height of Imperialism in the UK, when a huge hunk of Africa and Asia was owned (literally, owned, by Great Britain) to create a scientific theory that rationalized Imperialism. By explaining that Imperialism worked from the level of the most modest organic life up to man, and that in every organic situation, the strong dominated the weak and eventually wiped them out, Darwin offered the most compelling argument yet for Imperialism. It was neither good nor bad, neither Liberal nor Conservative, but simply a fact of nature. In dominating Africa and Asia, Britain was simply acting in accordance with the dictates of life itself. He was the ultimate pitchman for Imperialism. Now, we know that Imperialism had a short life span. Imperialism was a system that took no account of the realities of the human condition. Human beings do not like to have their countries owned by people far away in ermine robes. They like to be in charge of themselves. Imperialism had a short but hideous historyof repression and murder. But its day is done. Darwinism is still very much alive, utterly dominating biology. Despite the fact that no one has ever been able to prove the creation of a single distinct species by Darwinist means, Darwinism dominates the academy and the media. Darwinism also has not one meaningful word to say on the origins of organic life, a striking lacuna in a theory supposedly explaining life. Alas, Darwinism has had a far bloodier life span than Imperialism. Darwinism, perhaps mixed with Imperialism, gave us Social Darwinism, a form of racism so vicious that it countenanced the Holocaust against the Jews and mass murder of many other groups in the name of speeding along the evolutionary process. Now, a few scientists are questioning Darwinism on many fronts. I wonder how long Darwinisms life span will be. Marxism, another theory which, in true Victorian style, sought to explain everything, is dead everywhere but on university campuses and in the minds of psychotic dictators. Maybe Darwinism will be different. Maybe it will last. But its difficult to believe it will. Theories that presume to explain everything without much evidence rarely do. Theories that outlive their era of conception and cannot be verified rarely last unless they are faith based. And Darwinism has been such a painful, bloody chapter in the history of ideologies, maybe we would be better off without it as a dominant force. Maybe we would have a new theory: We are just pitiful humans. Life is unimaginably complex. We are still trying to figure it out. We need every bit of input we can get. Lets be humble about what we know and what we dont know, and maybe in time, some answers will come. No One Can Teach Creationism Without Proper Training The world of current creationism does not understand the Genesis text, and is fragmented into various factions which teach misinformation, with doctrines which vary from the false to the foolish. However, creationism cant be taught, without the teachers first being trained with the facts. Otherwise they would be teaching propaganda", and misrepresenting the Genesis text, and nothing of value would be gained. The world of science is mostly atheistic, which has been misled by the falsehoods and foolishness of current creationism, and has blindly decided upon unrealistic theories of our origins and history of life, in an attempt to explain our beginnings and continued existence. Yet the Word of God has always been true, even though those whom we thought could correctly explain it, actually did not understand the text themselves. Using correct literal interpretation, the biblical truth of Genesis reveals far more about our ancient prehistoric past, than modernscience has ever known. The book of Genesis does not contain any creation accounts". Chapter two tells us about the origins of modern mankind, starting in about 7200 BC. The chapter ends in about 7000 BC, with the addition of Eve, the helpmate for Adam. Chapter one is the rendition of the Observations of Moses", which were six visions given to Moses on Mt. Sinai, during a six day period in 1598 BC. Chapter one covers a period of time that spans about 4.5 billion years, but each 24-hr day was taken from the first week of each geologic area, in biblical order. The correct reading of chapter one of Genesis gives undeniable proof of the existence of the Living God. The proof is Gods revelation to Moses, defining seven geologic eras of the past, which Moses could not have known about on his own. Secular science would not discover geologic time until 3000 years later. Merely reading the first day through the seventh day has little meaning, and has been called a constructed creation myth". However, in the Gospels, the Lord Jesus reveals the chronological order of the days of Moses, to where their true meaning is uncovered. Consider the following: A. The Fourth Day of Moses, from Creation Week 1. Covers the period 4.6 Billion BC to 245 Million BCa) Depicts the creation of the (other) celestial bodies B. The fifth day of Moses, from Restoration Week 1 1. Covers the period 245 Million BC to 65 Million BC a) Depicts the creation of sea monsters and birds b) Discovered life forms i. ichthyosaurs, mosasaurs, pliosaurs, plesiosaurs,and archaeopteryx C. The sixth day of Moses, from Restoration Week 2 1. Covers the period 65 Million BC to 42 Million BC a) Depicts the creation of herbivores, large animals, and the remaking of mankind into Gods image b) Discovered life forms i. eohippus, indricotheriumii. mankind of the period not yet discovered These, and the remaining eras of geologic time, are given in the book Moses Didnt Write About Creation!", published by PublishAmerica. Starting with the Fourth Day, the book puts the seven days in chronological order, as revealed by the Living Word. The secular world of science may call this a convenient coincidence". But it is extremely difficult to explain away the fact that the Observations of Moses follow the order of the discovered geologic record of Earth, with visions of the ancient life forms shown to Moses, that lived during those time periods. Herman Cummings PO Box 1745 Fortson GA, If the religious fundamentalists are so keen on teaching the controversy in our public schools, surely they wont mind if I demand the opportunity to teach the controversy at their churches. Fair is fair! The State of Texas should not be involved in religion, religious doctrine or accrediting religious school. The Institute for Creation Research should NOT be accredited for science education. Theyre wasting my tax money with their accreditation applications, hearings and all the staff time that state employees must put into processing that absurdity. ======= Forwarded from NCSE: The Institute for Creation Research is seeking to grant graduate degrees in Texas. Meanwhile, Glenn Branch offers his take on the Comer controversy, the Alliance for Science is holding its second annual essay contest, and new content from Reports of the NCSE is available on the NCSE website. ICR SEEKS TO GRANT DEGREES IN TEXAS The Institute for Creation Research, a young-earth creationist organization, has cleared the first hurdle in its quest for authorization to issue master's degrees in science education in Texas. The Dallas Morning News (December 15, 2007) reported, "The nonprofit Institute for Creation Research in Dallas wants to train future science teachers in Texas and elsewhere using an online curriculum. A state advisory group gave its approval Friday; now the final say rests with the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board, which will consider the request next month." According to a December 17, 2007, report by Steven Schafersman of Texas Citizens for Science, THECB will meet on January 24, 2008, to consider the ICR's application. If approved, the ICR will have two years to obtain accreditation for its graduate school from an independent accreditation agency. ICR recently moved its headquarters from the San Diego, California, area to Dallas. In the October issue of ICR's publication Acts & Facts, its president John Morris explained, "The possibility of moving to Dallas surfaced when my brother, Dr. Henry Morris III, discerned that a central location would be beneficial for ICR, with several possibilities for student services at nearby affiliated colleges. The many good churches and large numbers of ICR supporters living in North Texas made it a natural fit for the ministry. When my father [Henry Morris] was still alive he approved the move to Dallas, especially as a way to strengthen the graduate school. In 2006, ICR opened a distance education effort in Dallas, as well as the hub of ICR's internet ministries. ... As additional operational functions were assigned to the new Dallas office, the Board concluded that it was in ICR's best interests to move the entire ministry." The ICR's graduate school was previously accredited by the Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools (TRACS), a group founded by Henry Morris; Henry Morris III presently serves on its commission. Texas does not recognize accreditation by TRACS, forcing the ICR to seek temporary state certification while it applies for accreditation from the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools (SACS). As a first step toward certification, a committee of Texas educators visited the ICR's facilities in Dallas to evaluate whether the ICR meets the legal requirements for state certification. The report described the educational program as "plausible," adding, "The proposed degree would be generally comparable to an initial master's degree in science education from one of the smaller, regional universities in the state." NCSE's Eugenie C. Scott disagreed, telling the Dallas Morning News, "It sounds like the committee may have just taken at face value what the ICR claims ... There's a huge gulf between what the ICR is doing and what they're doing at legitimate institutions like ... [the University of Texas] or Baylor." (The committee members were a librarian, an educational administrator, and a mathematician; none was professionally trained in biology, geology, or physics.) Inside Higher Ed reported (December 17, 2007), "Some science groups are aghast by the idea that Texas would authorize master's degrees in science education that are based on complete opposition to evolution and literal acceptance of the Bible. And these groups are particularly concerned because the students in these programs would be people who are or want to be school teachers." Although Patricia Nason, chair of the ICR's science education department, told the Dallas Morning News, "Our students are given both sides. They need to know both sides, and they can draw their own conclusion," the ICR's statement of faith includes the tenet, "All things in the universe were created and made by God in the six literal days of the creation week described in Genesis 1:1-2:3, and confirmed in Exodus 20:8-11. The creation record is factual, historical and perspicuous; thus all theories of origins or development which involve evolution in any form are false." Similarly, applicants to the ICR's graduate school are explicitly told that their answers to the essay questions on the application help to determine "your dedication to the Lord, the Word, and teaching creation science." According to the Dallas Morning News's article, the ICR's graduate program "offers typical education classes, teaching such fundamentals as how to use lab equipment, the Internet and PowerPoint in the classroom. But it also offers a class called 'Advanced studies in creationism. ' And the course Web page for 'Curriculum design in science' gives this scenario: 'The school board has asked you to serve on a committee that is examining grades 6-12 science goals. ... Both evolutionist and creationist teachers serve on the curriculum committee. How will you convince them to include creation science as well as evolution in the new scope and sequence?'" The ICR's graduate school's website repeatedly declares, "ICR maintains that scientific creationism should be taught along with the scientific aspects of evolutionism in tax-supported institutions. " The Texas Commissioner of Higher Education, Raymund Paredes, is to study the ICR's application and offer his opinion to THECB. He told the San Antonio Express-News (December 19, 2007), "Because this controversy is so potentially hot, we owe it to both sides to be absolutely fair in evaluating it. ... Maybe the real issue here is to put this proposal in the right category. Maybe it's not a program in science education. Maybe it's a program in creation studies. Then we have to decide whether that is a legitimate field or not." The New York Times (December 19, 2007) reported, "Asked how the institute could educate students to teach science, Dr. Paredes, who holds a doctorate in American civilization from the University of Texas and served 10 years as vice chancellor for academic development at the University of California, said, 'I don't know. I'm not a scientist.'" For the Dallas Morning News's article, visit: http://www.dallasne ws.com/sharedcon tent/dws/ news/healthscien ce/stories/ 12150 7dnmetcreation. 2b0d011.html For Texas Citizens for Science's report, visit: http://www.texscien ce.org/reviews/ icr-thecb- certification. htm For the THECB committee's report (PDF), visit: http://www.texscien ce.org/reviews/ ICR-Site- Visit-Report- and-ICR-Response .pdf For Inside Higher Ed's article, visit: http://www.insidehi ghered.com/ news/2007/ 12/17/texas For the San Antonio Express-News' s article, visit: http://www.mysanant onio.com/ news/metro/ stories/MYSA1219 07.01A.Creationi sm.29 51a43.html For The New York Times's article, visit: http://www.nytimes. com/2007/ 12/19/education/ 19texas.html __._,_.___ == The thing that strikes me the most about religious fundamentalists is their profound LACK of any real faith or spirituality. That is precisely why they feel so threatened by science. To them, religion is not a spiritual experience, but set a of supposed facts. Such a view strikes me as tragically limited and provincial. == The biggest problem for them is that chimps and humans are so very close genetically. Nearly any definition of "kind" that is larger than "species" means that chimps and humans are the same "kind". That, of course, cannot be allowed. So creationists simply take the cowardly path of not providing a definition. == Creationists don't have to worry about that, they have one theory that explains everything and they don't need any more than that. For them it makes sense to hold to one theory (truth) that doesn't require thought or the difficulty of learning facts. It is probably human nature to take the easiest route and gladly grasp something that is simple, quick and acceptable to those around you. Most of the creationist/ID protesters have grasped the simple explanation of everything but cannot bring themselves to consider alternatives that require more effort and more learning. Facts are merely inconvenient and temporary distractions when you know the Absolute Truth About Everything. == Religion has convinced people that there's an invisible man... living in the sky, who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn't want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you and he needs money. == http://www.trueorigin.org/ creationist == Not by Chance: Shattering the Modern Theory of Evolution by Lee M. Spetner (Paperback - Jun 1, 1997) == Biblical literalists are not allowed to think about the Bible. That's because thinking often means asking questions. If you ask questions, you may get an answer that disagrees with your preconceptions. == http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMpk7WerFWw Hovind defends creation. === Intelligent design is anything but scientific theory. Leading ID proponent Dr. Michael Behe has conceded that "there are no peer reviewed articles by anyone advocating for intelligent design supported by pertinent experiments or calculations which provide detailed rigorous accounts of how intelligent design of any biological system occurred." He also agreed that that definition of "theory" as he applied it to ID was so loose that astrology would also qualify. === Fundie's advice to his son. You see son, we believe in an inerrant Bible. Anyone who has such a belief is not supposed to actually ask questions or really even think about what we believe that the Bible says. Nor should we consider the implications of such things. God didn't give us brains to think about the Bible! Instead He wants us only to provide pitiful and silly arguments against things like evolution. For example, providing out-of-context quotes about evolution is a part of God's purpose for us. You don't really need a brain to do that. == If the Bible is the inerrant word of God, then the earth is the oldest object in the universe (Gen 1:1), snakes can talk (Gen 3:1-5), and Man had dominion over the dinosaurs (Gen 1:26, 28). == Fundie books The Genesis Flood by Dr. Henry Morris and Dr. John C. Whitcomb Evolution: A Theory in Crisis by Dr. Michael Denton On Two Wings -Faith & Common Sense at the American Founding by M. Novak Darwin's Black Box by Dr. Michael Behe Many Infallible Proofs by Dr. Henry Morris The Privileged Planet by Dr. Guillermo Gonzalez and Dr. Jay W. Richards America's God and Country - Encyclopedia of Quotations by William Federer Rare Earth by Brownlee and Ward Icons of Evolution by Jonathan Wells, Ph. D. The Biblical Basis for Modern Science by Dr. Henry Morris Evolution the Fossils Say No! by Duane T. Gish, Ph. D. Men of Science - Men of God by Dr. Henry Morris === Vitter earmarked federal money for creationist group WASHINGTON -- Sen. David Vitter, R-La., earmarked $100,000 in a spending bill for a Louisiana Christian group that has challenged the teaching of Darwinian evolution in the public school system and to which he has political ties. The money is included in the labor, health and education financing bill for fiscal 2008 and specifies payment to the Louisiana Family Forum "to develop a plan to promote better science education." The earmark appears to be the latest salvo in a decades-long battle over science education in Louisiana, in which some Christian groups have opposed the teaching of evolution and, more recently, have pushed to have it prominently labeled as a theory with other alternatives presented. Educators and others have decried the movement as a backdoor effort to inject religious teachings into the classroom. The nonprofit Louisiana Family Forum, launched in Baton Rouge in 1999 by former state Rep. Tony Perkins, has in recent years taken the lead in promoting "origins science," which includes the possibility of divine intervention in the creation of the universe. The group's stated mission is to "persuasively present biblical principles in the centers of influence on issues affecting the family through research, communication and networking." Until recently, its Web site contained a "battle plan to combat evolution," which called the theory a "dangerous" concept that "has no place in the classroom." The document was removed after a reporter's inquiry. Vitter, Forum have ties The group's tax-exempt status prohibits the Louisiana Family Forum from political activity, but Vitter has close ties to the group. Dan Richey, the group's grass-roots coordinator, was paid $17,250 as a consultant in Vitter's 2004 Senate race. Records also show that Vitter's campaign employed Beryl Amedee, the education resource council chairwoman for the Louisiana Family Forum. The group has been an advocate for the senator, who was elected as a strong supporter of conservative social issues. When Vitter's use of a Washington, D.C., call-girl service drew comparisons last month to the arrest of Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, in what an undercover officer said was a solicitation for sex in an airport men's room, Family Forum Executive Director Gene Mills came to Vitter's defense. In a video clip the group posted on the Internet site YouTube, Mills said the two senators' situations are far different. "Craig is denying the allegations," he said. "Vitter has repented of the allegations. He sought forgiveness, reconciliation and counseling." Vitter's office said it is not surprising that people he employed would also do work for Louisiana Family Forum, which shares his philosophical outlook. He said the education earmark was meant to offer a broad array of views in the public schools. "This program helps supplement and support educators and school systems that would like to offer all of the explanations in the study of controversial science topics such as global warming and the life sciences," Vitter said in a written statement. The money in the earmark will pay for a report suggesting "improvements" in science education in Louisiana, the development and distribution of educational materials and an evaluation of the effectiveness of the Ouachita Parish School Board's 2006 policy that opened the door to biblically inspired teachings in science classes. "I believe it is an important program," Vitter said. Critics said taxpayer money should not go to support a religion-based program. "This is a misappropriation of public funds," said Charles Kincade, a civil rights lawyer in Monroe who has been involved in church-state cases. "It's a backdoor attempt to push a religious agenda in the public school system." Group has history Former Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., a Christian conservative defeated for re-election in 2004, attempted to open the door for such money when he inserted language into a report accompanying the 2001 No Child Left Behind Act enabling teachers to offer "the full range of scientific views" when "topics that may generate controversy (such as biological evolution)" are taught. In 1987, the U.S. Supreme Court threw out a Louisiana law that would have required schools to teach creationist theories, which hold that God created the universe, whenever evolution was taught. In 2002, the Louisiana Family Forum unsuccessfully sought to persuade the state Board of Elementary and Secondary Education to insert a five-paragraph disclaimer in all of its science texts challenging the natural science view that life came about by accident and has evolved through the process of natural selection. The group notched a victory last year when the Ouachita School Board adopted a policy that, without mentioning the Bible or creationism, gave teachers leeway to introduce other views besides those contained in traditional science texts. "Many of our educators feel inadequate to address the controversies," said Mills, executive director of the Louisiana Family Forum. Mills said that his group didn't request the money in the 2008 appropriations bill, and that Vitter's proposal "was a bit of a surprise." Mills said his group is not attempting to push the teaching of evolution out of the schools, but wants to supplement it. Yet, some of the material posted on the Louisiana Family Forum's Web site suggests a more radical view. Among other things, a "Louisiana Family Forum Fact Sheet" at one point included "A Battle Plan -- Practical Steps to Combat Evolution" by Kent Hovind, a controversial evangelist who is serving a 10-year prison sentence for tax offenses and obstruction of justice. Hovind's paper stated, "Evolution is not a harmless theory but a dangerous religious belief" that underpinned the atrocities committed by Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Pol Pot of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. Looking deeper urged "I've got so much stuff on the Web site I don't know what's there," Mills said. "We think that in order to teach controversial topics successfully, you have to teach both sides." The group's "Evolution Addendum for Public Schools," also posted on the Web site, offers a flavor of its concerns. The document rejects the evolutionary connection between apes and humans, questions the standard explanation of fossil formation and seeks to undercut the prevailing scientific view that life emerged from a series of chemical reactions. "Under ideal conditions, the odds of that many amino acids coming together in the right order are approximately the same as winning the Power Ball Lotto every week for the next 640 years," it states. "How could this have happened accidentally?" Kincade, the Monroe lawyer, said Vitter's and Louisiana Family Forum's motives are not benign. "What you have to do is look below the surface," said Kincade, who holds an undergraduate degree in physics and has been active in legal cases in which religious groups challenge science instruction. "It frames the issue in a way that appeals to America's sense of fair play. The problem is, except for fringe people, evolution is an accepted fact of science. It is not a hotly contested issue. The general concept of natural selection and evolution is settled and beyond dispute. To suggest otherwise is misleading. They are trying to backdoor creationism." Vitter's appropriation was contained in a database compiled by Taxpayers for Common Sense, a nonprofit group seeking to reduce the number of earmarks in federal legislation. Earlier this year, Congress agreed for the first time to begin linking specially requested earmarks to the names of their sponsors. Taxpayers for Common Sense has compiled thousands of them into searchable databases. Vitter said the financing request was submitted earlier this year and "was evaluated on its merit." But Steve Ellis, of the taxpayers' group, said most earmarks are not vetted by anyone except the member requesting it. "Using an earmark to dictate that the Louisiana Family Forum receive the funding to develop a science education program ironically ignores a hallmark of scientific research, making decisions on the basis of competitive, empirical research," Ellis said. The appropriations bill is awaiting Senate action. -- Most religions - including the American Jewish Congress, the General Convention of the Episcopal Church, United Presbyterian Church, the United Methodist Church, the World Lutheran Church, the Unitarian-Universalist Association and the Roman Catholic Church - support evolution. -- Because according to Wendy Cortez in her WDSU interview Wednesday night, married Senator Vitter used a condom during their sex sessions--and took the used condom with him so as not to leave his DNA material behind in the French Quarter apartment they used. -- Now we know why that clerical fraud Gene Mills made all those excuses for Vitter immediately we learned he broke the law with the 'D.C. Madam.' Vitter was making arrangements to send $100,000 to the Rev. Gene Mills' religious-political organization. == Eniwetok Atoll in the Marshall Islands. This is a living reef resting on an extinct volcano cone which comes up about three kilometers (two miles) from the ocean floor. Drilling revealed about 1,400 meters (4,600 feet) of reef material. == Fundie mother She indicated that evolution could not be true because that would make the bible false and therefore there would be no moral standards from which to live life under. === TORNADO IN A JUNKYARD by James Perloff bad science ==== Fundies -- "Dr." Henry Morris Dr. Duane Gish "John Woodmorappe" - supposed fundy geologist (although known to be a pseudonym, apt for a pseudoscientist), "author" of "The Ark - A Feasibility Study"; which is neither feasible nor a study. Steve Austin Bliss, "Dr." Richard, Cumming, Kenneth B. Deckard, Stephen W. DeYoung, Donald B. Franks, Robert H. Morris, John D. Vardiman, Larry Baumgardner, John R. Carothers, Linn E. Chaffin, Eugene F. Chittick, Donald E. Englin, Dennis L. Faulkner, Danny R. Fliermans, Carl B. Humphreys, D. Russell Lindsey, George D. Meyer, John R. Osborne, Chris D. Parker, Gary E. Snelling, Andrew A. Dr A A Snelling Stark, James "Dr., Dr., Dr." Carl Baugh Claims to have a Ph.D. in anthropology from the College of Advanced Education, an unaccredited Bible college on the grounds of the Sherwood Park Baptist Church. He also claims to have another Ph.D. from the California Graduate School of Theology, an unaccredited diploma-mill in California. === Fundie beliefs (1) The Bible is the Written Word of God, and because it is inspired thruout [sic], all its assertions are historically and scientifically true in all the original autographs. To the student of nature, this means that the account of origins in Genesis is a factual presentation of simple historical truths [even sic-er]. (2) All basic types of living things, including man, were made by direct creative acts of God during the Creation Week described in Genesis. Whatever biological changes have occurred since Creation Week have accomplished only changes within the original created kinds [whatever or whoever that or they may be - ed.]. (3) The great Flood described in Genesis, commonly referred to as the Noachian Flood, was an historic event worldwide in its extent and effect [odd that there's no evidence for this event though...-ed.]. (4) We are an organization of Christian men of science who accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. The account of the special creation of Adam and Eve as one man and woman and their subsequent fall into sin is the basis for our belief [there's that word again...] in the necessity of a Savior for all mankind . Therefore, salvation can come only through accepting Jesus Christ as our Savior." Above: the oath to which "Creation Scientists" must affirm. == It turns out that Senator Larry Craig, R-Idaho, has been up to more than just allegedly soliciting men in adjacent bathroom stalls. Then theres U.S. Sen. Larry Craig, who as a House member 16 years ago co-sponsored a constitutional amendment, the Community Life Amendment, to authorize teaching the creation of the earth as accepted in Judeo-Christian tradition. And indeed, right there in the 101st Congress, 1989, there is (then Representative) Larry Craig co-sponsoring House Joint Resolution 297: JOINT RESOLUTION Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relating to the right of the people to allow voluntary prayer and the teaching of the Judeo-Christian ethic in public schools. SECTION 2. For the purpose of section 1, the term teaching of the Judeo-Christian ethic shall include the Ten Commandments and the creation of the earth as accepted in Judeo-Christian tradition. === http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/08/answers_in_gene.html Museum fight bites bureau Scientist calls Creation Museum plug 'inflammatory' PETERSBURG - The head of the Kentucky Paleontological Society is criticizing local tourism officials for promoting the Creation Museum using inflammatory language from the museum's Web site. The Northern Kentucky Convention & Visitors Bureau on its Web site says of the controversial museum: "This 'walk through history' museum will counter evolutionary natural history museums that turn countless minds against Christ and Scripture." Natural history museums don't turn people against religion, counters Daniel Phelps, paleontology society president. If they did, there would be regular protests outside those museums. "There's many people who are very religious, and they don't have a problem with evolution," Phelps said. "If the creationists want to say things like that on their own Web site, that's their business," he said. "I was pretty shocked that a tax-supported entity would do anything like that," Phelps said. The 60,000-square-foot, $27 million museum has sparked national controversy with assertions that go against the grain of scientific consensus. The museum declares that Earth is 6,000 years old, rather than about 4.5 billion. It also depicts humans as living at the same time as dinosaurs, which scientists say never happened. "We do list attractions on our Web site, and the attractions provide the content, because they know the venues best," said Pat Frew, spokesman for the bureau. "We simply provide a listing and description on the Web site as a service to them." Given the content's controversy, might the bureau consider changing the wording, which was lifted from the Creation Museum's Web site? "I think I'm going to stick with what I've told you so far," Frew said, declining to comment further on that question. Frew said he did not know how much of his organization's $2.7 million budget, which comes largely from taxpayer money, has been spent promoting the museum, because "we have a contractual agreement with the Regional Tourism Network, and they promote the attractions to the leisure visitor. Therefore, we don't have a figure in terms of how much is spent on promoting the museum, as it is promoted in toto, not singularly, like all the other attractions." Phelps, who has toured the place he calls the "Anti-Museum," and written a negative online review of it, says he has no problem with the bureau listing the Answers in Genesis museum on its Web site. "It's a local attraction, and they should be listed on their Web site," he said. "But they don't need to say anything negative about a regular natural-history museum, and I just was amazed." "Whenever you leave the state of Kentucky, people make jokes about Kentucky, and this would reinforce the stereotype," said Phelps, an environmental geologist and a part-time instructor for Bluegrass Community College in Lexington. He also is president of the Kentucky section of the American Institute of Professional Geologists. Creation Museum spokesman Mark Looy defended the visitors bureau's use of his museum's language, saying their use of the same wording "doesn't necessarily" mean the bureau "believes that. ... They're just using our language." Natural history museums do turn countless minds against the Bible "when they present an evolutionary view that's in contrast with what the Bible says," Looy said. == It should of course be pointed out that Phillip Johnson, the godfather of the Intelligent Design movement, has himself long been a proud and loud HIV denier. === George McCready Price first developed the primacy of flood geology in creationism, publishing the "New Geology" in 1923 == Any first year philosophy students knows any two ideas can be made compatible with sufficient effort. === Young-earthism can't be defeated by science, since its adherents reject science out of hand. === Stanley Jaki "Genesis 1 Through the Ages" Davis Young's "The Biblical Flood." Finding Darwin's God, Kenneth R. Miller Dick Fisher The Origins Solution: An Answer in the Creation-Evolution Debate Foundation, Fall, and Flood , by Glenn Morton Creation in God, Man and History Eliezer Berkovitz Good Genes: Emerging Values for Science, Religion, and Society (Paperback) by D. Ames Genesis and God Holmes Rolston III. David Stove _Darwinian Fairytales_ A Handy Guide To Rebutting Creationist Objections To Valid Mainstream Science, August 4, 2007 ByJohn Kwok (New York, NY) == According to creationists, evidently God has been creating every few years new species out of thin air, but stopped well short of the historical period, as there is no historical record of an animal or plant appearing in a flash of magic. == There is a very simple argument showing how the absence of the 20-plus persistent nuclides with a half-life less than 80 million years shows that Earth must be at least 1.6 billion years old. == More Americans believe in the rapture than in evolution. This will prepare us quite well to live in the shadow of Europe, China and India in decades to come. Preachers will have more problems to pray about as factories close and people starve. Prof Richard Dawkins "There are two ways of looking at the world - through faith and superstition, or through the rigours of logic, observation and evidence, through reason. Yet today reason has a battle on its hands. Reason and a respect for evidence are the source of our progress, our safeguard against fundamentalists and those who profit from obscuring the truth. We live in dangerous times when superstition is gaining ground and rational science is under attack." ==== Behe's hypothesis that the original first 'Designed' cell had all its future complexity coded genetically but turned off was doomed to failure because of the accumulation of errors in unexpressed genes. The thrust of Behe's argument was that at the earliest stages of life, i.e. at the biochemical or molecular level, there was no evidence of a natural selection process such that scientists could infer that the most basic of life forms, the cell and its components, developed in an evolutionary manner. To the contrary, Behe and others argued that the basic building blocks of life (the "black box") appeared to have been structured as irreducible components finely tuned to make possible the ultimate development of the greater complexity of life as we know it today. === Huckabee, Brownback, and Tancredo deny that evolution has validity. In an opinion piece Brownback wrote in The New York Times to clarify his position, he stated that while it is possible for evolutionary theory to add to human knowledge, any aspect of it incompatible with the truth of creation must be automatically rejected. === http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/Fossil_Sorting refutes flood geology == "What I have said, and that still remains, the Bible is true and cannot be verified by science." This statement, of course, is irrational. If the Bible is unverifiable, i.e. untestable, then all this is is a subjective feeling, such as, 'I believe the Bible is true, because I believe the Bible is true." The problem, which already raised its ugly head during the geocentrism controversy centuries ago, is that if the Bible is subjective, then it's like poetry. You either like it or you don't. It has nothing to do with being real. People claim that the Bible is "God's Word." But of course, whenever it is found to say things that are wrong in terms of reality (man was created around 6,000 years ago [Genesis 5, Genesis 11]; all mankind except for 8 people were wiped out by a worldwide flood that covered the highest mountains; the earth doesn't move, it's the sun that moves around the earth; etc.), then they say, 'Well, it's God's Word, so it must be true, so it's not really saying that because that's wrong." And that's nothing more than a circular argument. So on the one hand we have the literalists saying 'The Bible is God's Word, so it cannot be wrong, therefore science is wrong,' - a circular argument - and on the other hand we have the allegoricists saying 'The Bible is God's Word, so it cannot be wrong, so we'll just change how we interpret it so that it never contradicts what we learn about reality' - another circular argument. Both approaches are epistemologically flawed. == (1) Wexler, "Intelligent Design and the First Amendment: A Response," 83 Washington University Law Quarterly (forthcoming). (2) Wexler, "Darwin, Design, and Disestablishment: Teaching the Evolution Controversy in Public Schools," 56 Vanderbilt Law Review 749 (2003). (3) Wexler, "Of Pandas, People, and the First Amendment: The Constitutionality of Teaching Intelligent Design in the Public Schools," 49 Stanford Law Review 439 (1997). (4) Brauer, Forrest, and Gey, "Is it science yet? Intelligent design creationism and the Constitution," 83:1 Washington University Law Quarterly (2005). (1Mb PDF.) ====== This is the same kind of silly, frivolous response that creationists always make. Funny how they question the "authority" of scientists but not of priests, of carbon-dating tests but not ancient texts. The difference between "faith" and scientific observation is that you can CHECK on scientific claims and methods, but there is no possible check you can perform on religious claims. Scientists do not "believe" things blindly; in fact, they love to critique and debunk each other. What is really sad is that religionists spend so much time "believing"--and depend on it so thoroughly--that they assume everyone and everything works the same way, on "blind faith." In attempting to call into question the validity of science by claiming it shares common features with supernatural religion, he's at the same time undermining his own position. After all, if scientists are merely basing their views on "faith", then they're not to be believed. This equally undermines the supernaturalist (or magical causation) position. == David Ray Griffin's book Two Great Truths: A New Synthesis of Scientific Naturalism and Christian Faith The Counter-Creationism Handbook (Paperback) by Mark Isaak (Author) Niles Eldredge The Triumph of Evolution and the Failure of Creationism http://nationalacademies.org/evolution/ Evolution Under the Microscope (Paperback) by David W. Swift (Author) === The Society of Vertebrate Paleontology expressed its concern about the misrepresentation of science in Answers in Genesis's creation "museum" in a press release issued on July 17, 2007. "The Creation Museum's fossil exhibitions, though artistically impressive, include a vast number of scientific errors, large and small," the SVP explained. "These errors range from implying that the Earth's sedimentary rocks were deposited by a single biblical Flood, to claiming that humans and dinosaurs lived alongside one another, to denouncing the reality of transitional fossils." Kevin Padian, a paleontologist at the University of California, Berkeley, and president of NCSE's board of directors, said, with reference to Answers in Genesis's president, "Ken Ham is not recognized as a scientist or educator among experts in the fields of geology and paleontology, and his views on the interpretation of Biblical texts are extremist. Visitors to his 'museum' may arrive knowing little about these sciences, but they will leave misled and intellectually deceived." Kristi Curry Rogers of the Science Museum of Minnesota added, "the Creation Museum is using the disguise of science museums and centers without including an iota of science inside." Catherine Badgley, a professor at the University of Michigan and president of the Society of Vertebrate Paleontology, further lamented the misinformation presented at AiG's museum, commenting, "according to the Creation Museum, the history of life is short, sin-ridden, and laden with moralizing imperatives. In contrast, the real fossil record shows that this long history is brimming with discoveries of new kinds of animals, plants, and environments, inviting people to use their unusual minds to question, to reason, and to wonder at life's remarkable variety." Founded in 1940, the Society of Vertebrate Paleontology is the leading North American scientific and educational organization concerned with vertebrate paleontology. According to its position statement on evolution education, "Evolution is fundamental to the teaching of good biology and geology, and the vertebrate fossil record is an excellent set of examples of the patterns and processes of evolution through time. ... The record of vertebrate evolution is exciting, inspirational, instructive, and enjoyable, and it is our view that everyone should have the opportunity and the privilege to understand it as paleontologists do." == When Science magazine conducted a survey of 34 countries last August(2006), Turkey had the second-lowest acceptance rate of the theory of evolution (the United States had the lowest). ==== "If the Bible is the Word of God and it is and if Jesus Christ is the infallible and omniscient Creator and He is then it must be firmly believed that the world and all things in it were created in six natural days and that the long geological ages of evolutionary history never really took place at all." [Henry Morris, Scientific Creationism, Creation-Life Publishers, San Diego 1974, p. 251] "It is more productive to take the Bible literally and then to interpret the actual facts of science within its revelatory framework." [Henry Morris, Troubled Waters of Evolution, Creation-Life Publishers, San Diego, 1974, p. 184] ===== "I firmly believe that each human person, regardless of circumstance, was willed into being and made for a purpose. While no stone should be left unturned in seeking to discover the nature of mans origins, we can say with conviction that we know with certainty at least part of the outcome. Man was not an accident and reflects an image and likeness unique in the created order." Brownback does NOT believe in Evolution. Would-be president Sam Brownback recently wrote in the New York Times that any scientific findings conflicting with his faith should be firmly rejected. In the same vein, Jonathan Wells a senior fellow of the ID advocacy group Center for Science and Culture at the Discovery Instituterecently wrote, The vast majority of Americans reject Darwinism for good reasons: it doesnt fit the scientific evidence, and it contradicts a central tenet of Christianity. == Antievolutionist appointed to head Texas state board of education (National Center for Science Education, 7/26/2007) On July 17, 2007, Don McLeroy was appointed by Texas governor Rick Perry (R) to chair the state board of education, succeeding Geraldine Miller. A member of the board for the last eight years, McLeroy was described by the Dallas Morning News (July 18, 2007) as "aligned with social conservative groups known for their strong stands on evolution, sexual abstinence and other heated topics covered in textbooks" and as "[o]ne of four board members who voted against current high school biology books because of their failure to list weaknesses in the theory of evolution." In a statement issued on July 17, 2007, Texas Freedom Network's president Kathy Miller chided Governor Perry for his choice, writing, "Texas parents should be troubled that the governor has appointed as head of the state board a clear ideologue who has repeatedly put his own personal and political agendas ahead of sound science, good health and solid textbooks for students. Even worse, Mr. McLeroy will now be in charge of the board's scheduled revision of the state's science curriculum standards, an area where he has already cast his lot with extremists who want to censor what our schoolchildren learn." The state's newspapers also expressed concern about McLeroy. Referring to previous ideological struggles in which the board was involved, the Dallas Morning News (July 19, 2007) worried, "The elevation of veteran board member Don McLeroy to the chairman's post raises concerns that the board is headed back in that direction," and urged McLeroy to steer clear of "the bitterness of past culture wars." Similarly, the Austin American-Statesman (July 22, 2007) commented, "McLeroy's elevation to chairman comes as the board begins a revision of science standards for public schools. That could prove embarrassing for Texas if McLeroy pushes for standards that push theology over science." A document on McLeroy's personal website entitled "Historical Reality" and dated September 8, 2003, offers a glimpse of McLeroy's understanding of evolutionary science. Relying on discredited sources as Michael Behe's Darwin's Black Box, Jonathan Wells's Icons of Evolution and Percival Davis and Dean Kenyon's Of Pandas and People as well as on tendentious misreadings of legitimate science and on long-ago-debunked creationist claims, McLeroy argued that common descent is "only a hypothesis, and a shaky one at that." He then urged his colleagues on the board to reject the books then under consideration -- a plea that was ignored. The Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills (TEKS) for the sciences are scheduled to be reviewed and revised shortly, with a final vote by the Texas board of education presently expected in November 2008. Textbooks submitted for adoption in Texas are required to conform to the TEKS, so although the next round of biology textbook adoption proceedings is not expected to begin until 2009 at the earliest, it is likely that antievolutionists will try to undermine the treatment of evolution in the TEKS in order to provide a platform to campaign against the treatment of evolution in the biology textbooks. The governor of Texas has appointed an ultra conservative creationist to the head of the Texas state school board. The fact that a devout creationist has been appointed to this position is not only a catastrophe for the educational system of Texas but also will more than likely have a huge negative impact on the rest of the school systems in America. The Texas school board orders all text books in mass for all school districts in the state which enables this board to dictate the content of all text books used in Texas and thus in the rest of the United States. Text book manufactures are more concerned with profits than good science. Educators have been complaining about this problem for years, but nobody listened. Now we have the beginings of a national science melt down if something is not done. --- Heres part of a letter written to Miller concerning McLe