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Subject: Re: Please advise! what kind of training I am lackfor math?
>So I am at a very akward stage now: if give me undergraduate math to
read, I
>feel too easy and boring, if give me difficult math to read as those in
>Information Theory Transactions, I feel dizzy...
>Can anybody recommend some procedures/reference books to give me a
treatment
>for my current sickness? Can anybody give a booklist that any big guy in
the
>field would recommend as a must-read as a systematic treatment to math
for
>researchers in math-related engineering/science area?
> Graham, Knuth, and Patashnik's CONCRETE MATHEMATICS comes to mind.
> Also, Oppenheim's SIGNALS AND SYSTEMS.
> --gregbo
> gds at best dot com
We had studied Oppenheim's book in undergraduate, maybe I did not study it
well or fully understand it... :=)
But Knuth's book seems a good one, I will go and take a look!
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Subject: Re: Please advise! what kind of training I am lackfor math?
> So I am at a very akward stage now: if give me undergraduate math to
read, I
> feel too easy and boring, if give me difficult math to read as those in
> Information Theory Transactions, I feel dizzy...
> I don't know about information theory, but I did once take an intro class
> on real analysis. I find that to be  a great aid in reading contemporary
> Rune
You said it. After reading your experience, I now more positively think 
that
real analysis should be able to cure my sickness. I heard it many times, 
but
was not very sure that I should select this one to take out of those many
-Walala
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Subject: Re: Please advise! what kind of training I am lackfor math?
> I have long been headache about this problem... please help me! let me 
try
> to explain my problem to you:
> For years I have been headache about reading math notations. A concept, 
if
> it is put in straightforward way, I can understand. But if it is put in a
> math notation, or even advanced math notation, I will feel dizzy when I
read
> it. I cannot avoid feeling dizzy if I meet math formulars having more 
than
3
> lines. But I am in graduate school and must accquaint myself with maths.
For
> some reason, in my research field, information theory and signal
processing,
> if there is no math, the research may be regarded as low quality; hence
high
> quality journals are full of maths. I can never fully understand a paper
> full of maths.
> I guess my problem is my lack of exposure to math and lack of 
systematical
> education in math. I thought I will be a programmer and all my past time
was
> devoted to programming. But later I found programming is kind boring so I
> end up need to use math.
> In fact I am quite good in terms of grades in math classes; but I have
only
> studied very few math courses: calculas, linear algebra, complexity
> analysis, probability, all in undergraduate and introductory graduate
level.
> So I am at a very akward stage now: if give me undergraduate math to 
read,
I
> feel too easy and boring, if give me difficult math to read as those in
> Information Theory Transactions, I feel dizzy...
> Can anybody recommend some procedures/reference books to give me a
treatment
> for my current sickness? Can anybody give a booklist that any big guy in
the
> field would recommend as a must-read as a systematic treatment to math 
for
> researchers in math-related engineering/science area?
> -Walala
very helpful, since many of you had already passed succesfully the headache
stage and got your degree!
I guess more specifically what I am asking is how to train myself to
read/understand advanced/complicated/rigorous math to avoid feeling dizzy
when reading math for more than 3 lines and how to think in math and write
rigorous math... something like that... Reading the IEEE transaction on
Information Theory made me very depressed... I wonder why those authors are
so genious that they can invent theorem by theorem, lemma by lemma, ...
Have a great weekend to you all!
-Walala