mm-252 === Subject: Re: Late Math REUs?Look at the NSF site, get the REU list, call them. Problem solved.cc )> said:> ,> Can anyone recommend any math rela REUs that are still considering > student applications? In case it changes matteI'm a minority junior > Math/EE double major.> Alex-- Bill StevensonEditor in ChiefACM Crossroads Magazinehttp://www.acm.org/crossroadshttp:// www.billstevenson.orgApplied Cognitive Science LaboratoryPennsylvania State === REUs?> Look at the NSF site, get the REU list, call them. Problem solved.Am doing so. Are there any that aren't funded === that was NIH funded, but that wasn't in math. I have doubts that there are non-NSF math ones, or at least particularly many of them. You should just as well try to be a professor's summer slave (wage payroll) or something at a local school.cc )> said:>> Look at the NSF site, get the REU list, call them. Problem solved.> Am doing so. Are there any that aren't funded by the NSF?> Alex-- Bill StevensonEditor in ChiefACM Crossroads Magazinehttp://www.acm.org/crossroadshttp:// www.billstevenson.orgApplied Cognitive Science LaboratoryPennsylvania State === neededHello. I'm having a possible issue with a diffeq problem, but myanswer may be right. I'm looking for a little guidance and I have topreface my question with a summary of my current work to lend itcontext.A 2 kg mass is dropped from rest from 30m above water. When the mas s the water the momentum is unchanged. Wind resistance isproportional to the velocity and has a proportionality constant kwhich is 10 N*sec/m.For this part I setup the equation like so:F = ma = m*(dv/dt) = -mg - kv, so dv/dt = -(g - pv ) where p = k/m = 5and g = 9.8After moving things around... and letting v(0) = 0, v(t) = -1.96 - 1.96*e^(-5t)integrating with respect to t and solving for the initial value of x =0,x(t) = .392 - .392*e^(-5t) - 1.96tsolving numerically for x(t) = -30, t is approx 15.506-------------------------------------------------------- --------Now I have to examine the conditions after it hits water. Here'swhere my problem comes in I think. I'm trying to come up with onefunction that will be used for this entire problem. It'll have twoparts (air/water) with the air part used when t <= 15.506 and thewater part used when t >= 15.506, so I assume t = 15.506 is theinitial condition and at 15.506 the velocity is -1.96. Is this a badidea?First note that no momentum is lost. The proportionality constantunder water is 100 N*sec/m. Buoyancy is half of the weight (.5*mg).dv/dt = -g - pv + .5g = -.5g - pv, where p is k/m or 50 this time.Moving stuff around and setting v(15.506) = -1.96 yieldsv(t) = -9.516*10^336*e^(-50t) - .098Perhaps you see why I think I am making a mistake now. 10^336? Thatconstant is boggling. I think I setup my initial conditionsincorrectly. I do NOT want an exact answer to the problems, just alittle guidance if === diffeq help needed> Hello. I'm having a possible issue with a diffeq problem, but my> answer may be right. I'm looking for a little guidance and I have to> preface my question with a summary of my current work to lend it> context.> A 2 kg mass is dropped from rest from 30m above water. When the mass> hits the water the momentum is unchanged. Wind resistance is> proportional to the velocity and has a proportionality constant k> which is 10 N*sec/m.> For this part I setup the equation like so:> F = ma = m*(dv/dt) = -mg - kv, so dv/dt = -(g - pv ) where p = k/m = 5> and g = 9.8You've made a sign error: dv/dt = -g - pv = -(g + pv)In any case, leaving this as dv/dt + pv = -g makes maniplutaions easier.(It would also be of great help if you refrained from substitutingnumerical values of p,g, etc. until *after* you have comple yourmanipulations; then you can easily change p and g (as, for instance,you require below) without having to repeat the entire analysis.)> After moving things around... and letting v(0) = 0,> v(t) = -1.96 - 1.96*e^(-5t)Which means, since v(0) = 0, that +1.96 = -1.96, indicating that youhave made an error.> integrating with respect to t and solving for the initial value of x => 0,> x(t) = .392 - .392*e^(-5t) - 1.96tWhich is at least consistent with the initial condition.> solving numerically for x(t) = -30, t is approx 15.506> -------------------------------------------------------------- --> Now I have to examine the conditions after it hits water. Here's> where my problem comes in I think. I'm trying to come up with one> function that will be used for this entire problem. It'll have two> parts (air/water) with the air part used when t <= 15.506 and the> water part used when t >= 15.506, so I assume t = 15.506 is the> initial condition and at 15.506 the velocity is -1.96. Is this a bad> idea?Depends how accurate you want to be. If 5*t0 is large, where t0 is thecritical value of t, then you can make this approximation; I don't thinkthat 5*15.5 < 100 is all that large, however, so I'd work out the actualvalue according to the first part and use that.> First note that no momentum is lost.That's an assumption; there is going to be some momentum lost in thecollision with the water (resulting in a splash), but if you wantto ignore it then fair enough.> The proportionality constant> under water is 100 N*sec/m. Buoyancy is half of the weight (.5*mg).> dv/dt = -g - pv + .5g = -.5g - pv, where p is k/m or 50 this time.> Moving stuff around and setting v(15.506) = -1.96 yields> v(t) = -9.516*10^336*e^(-50t) - .098> Perhaps you see why I think I am making a mistake now. 10^336? That> constant is boggling. I think I setup my initial conditions> incorrectly. I do NOT want an exact answer to the problems, much.Bearing in mind that t >= 15.506, the exp(50*15.506) (which I assume iswhere you've got 10^336 from, I can't be of exp(-50t), so the final answer willnot be O(10^336). This is an example of my earlier point: you put numbersin before absolutely necessary, and have thus confused yourself.For computational purposes, you should in any case calculateexp(-50*(t - 15.506)) rather than === in throughout theprocess, but I decided to put the numbers in for brevity. I alsomistyped those incorrect equations; it was === formula for this simple sequence.Maybe someone here will find one and get the credit.The Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences website:http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/ I(n) IS the same sequence you found at EIS:Number of cells of square lattice of edge 1/n inside quadrant of unitcircle centered at 0.although I would not have sta it like that === applaud your impulse to be polite, it's counterproductive> to start a new thread with it.While I applaud your impulse to condemn counterproductivity, I would havereserved my vituperation for the individual who replied to the OP'squestion in an entirely new thread and with no indication === Stan, end your flaming rampage Honey, when you answer as many questions as I do -- even a tenth of that number -- then your opinion will have value.-- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://OakRoadSystems.comAn expense does not have to be required to be considered === Honey, when you answer as many questions as I do -- even a tenth of> that number -- then your opinion will have value.Of course, what else did I expect than yet another flame from you. You canpost a million posts a day, but if 999,999 of them are flames, then I don'tsee your point.OK I now see your point. I forgot that *you* are the standard by whichUsenet posting is === questionsolving it.Let U be an open set in R^n.Considerf in C^{infty}(U, R)such thatexists lim_{x -> x_0} f(x) / ||x-x_0||^{k-1} = 0 .Then f belongs to I^k_{x_0}(U, R) .------------------------------------------------------------- -----------------I^k_{x_0}(U, R) denotes the product of the ideal I_{x_0}(U, R)k-times with itself and I_{x_0}(U, R) denotes the ideal in C^{infty} (U,R)of function vaniscing at p.In other words, f belongs to I^k_{x_0}(U, R) if and only if fis of the form:f = h_0 g_01 * g_02 * .. * g_0{k-1}*g_0k + +...+ + h_m g_m1 * g_02 * .. * g_m{k-1}*g_0kwhere m is a natural number , say m=1 or m >1 ,h_i belongs to C^{infty}(U, R)andg_ij belongs to I_{x_0}(U,R) <==> g_ij(x_0)= 0 in R.Note that for m=0 , the proposition above is false,consider for example k=2 and f(x,y)=x^2+y^2.Then, exists lim_{(x,y) -> (00)} (x^2+y^2) / ||(x,y)||^{2-1} = lim_{(x,y) ->(00)} (x^2+y^2)^{1/2}=0,on the other hand, it's impossible to write f asf = h_0 g_01 * g_02 with g_01 and g_02 in C^{infty}(U, R) and vanishingat p.My ask is:Is the proposition above true with === Integral> No:> sec^2(v) = 1 + tan^2(v)Oh, gosh. 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