mm-280 === Subject: Re: i need help with 3 riddels===> Break me and I will disappear, with no mess left behind and no crash> to overhear.......what am I..?> I have three eyes but my root has two, I have all the time in the> world, much more than you do.....what am I?> On the wall I may be found or from heaven I'll come down, to teach to> warn or to astound, I'll help the lost if I am found......what am I?> its only 4 letters or less...> any help???You'll probably get more help in rec.puzzles. Crosspost added.-- Will Twentymanemail: wtwentyman at copper dot net===Subject: Re: i need help with 3 riddels 3QLpj-NoP*NzsIC,boYU]bQ]H'y<#4ga3$21:> Break me and I will disappear, with no mess left behind and no crash> to overhear.......what am I..?fbnc ohooyr?> I have three eyes but my root has two, I have all the time in the> world, much more than you do.....what am I?vasvavgr> On the wall I may be found or from heaven I'll come down, to teach to> warn or to astound, I'll help the lost if I am found......what am I?> its only 4 letters or less...fvta?-- David Eppstein http://www.ics.uci.edu/~eppstein/Univ. of California, Irvine, School of Information & Computer Science===Subject: Re: i need help with 3 riddels> Break me and I will disappear, with no mess left behind and no crash> to overhear.......what am I..?> fbnc ohooyr?> I have three eyes but my root has two, I have all the time in the> world, much more than you do.....what am I?> vasvavgr> On the wall I may be found or from heaven I'll come down, to teach to> warn or to astound, I'll help the lost if I am found......what am I?> its only 4 letters or less...> fvta?> -- > David Eppstein http://www.ics.uci.edu/~eppstein/> Univ. of California, Irvine, School of Information & Computer Sciencespoilersilencespoilerinfinityspoilermap===Subject: Re: i need help with 3 riddels> Break me and I will disappear, with no mess left behind and no crash> to overhear.......what am I..?> I have three eyes but my root has two, I have all the time in the> world, much more than you do.....what am I?> On the wall I may be found or from heaven I'll come down, to teach to> warn or to astound, I'll help the lost if I am found......what am I?> its only 4 letters or less...> any help???> You'll probably get more help in rec.puzzles. Crosspost added.Possible spoiler for the second...Possible spoiler for the second...Possible spoiler for the second...Possible spoiler for the second...Possible spoiler for the second... > I have three eyes but my root has two, I have all the time in the > world, much more than you do.....what am I?The word infinite (three i's), with the root word finite (two i's).Carl G.===Subject: Re: i need help with 3 riddels> Break me and I will disappear, with no mess left behind and no crash> to overhear.......what am I..?> I have three eyes but my root has two, I have all the time in the> world, much more than you do.....what am I?> On the wall I may be found or from heaven I'll come down, to teach to> warn or to astound, I'll help the lost if I am found......what am I?> its only 4 letters or less...> any help???> You'll probably get more help in rec.puzzles. Crosspost added.Possible spoiler for the third...Possible spoiler for the third...Possible spoiler for the third...Possible spoiler for the third... > On the wall I may be found or from heaven I'll come down, to teach to > warn or to astound, I'll help the lost if I am found......what am I? > its only 4 letters or less...The the four points of a magnetic compass, arranged as the word NEWSCarl G.===Subject: middle term expansionWhat is the middle term in the expansion of (x-1/x)^6?Dennis===Subject: Re: middle term expansionContent-transfer-encoding: 8bit> What is the middle term in the expansion of (x-1/x)^6?> DennisIf you mean (x - (1/x))^6 it is -20.If you mean ((x - 1)/x)^6 it is -20/(x^3)[Parentheses are your friends.]-- Paul SperryColumbia, SC (USA)===Subject: Re: Permutation Question> Let me know if your> up for another one. I'm currently a volunteer accountant in an> orphanage in El Salvador and I'm trying to tutor the senor kids but> I'm very rusty on this math type.You can post your problems here, but I can't guarantee to get them all right.===Subject: Re: What are all real values of x?> Perhaps I should clarify a bit,> The problem is properly written with (3-x) in paranthesis:> 2/(3-x)=1/3-1/x and the question isWhat are all real values of x?> After multiplying the expression by the least common denominator of> 3x(3-x) you get x^2+6x-9. So according to my study guide the solutions> for x are two integers whos product is -9 and whose sum is 6. The only> possibilty I can imagine would be 3 and 3 or -3 and -3 or -3 and 3. No> of the options work. So there is no real value of x for this problem.> Correct? Or do I confuse something?> Thanks for your input,> DennisWhile there are no real fractional zeros to x^2+6x-9, there are 2 real irrational zeros. They can be found by completing the square, as follows, or by using the quadratic formula:completing the square:x^2+6x-9 = 0x^2 + 6x = 9x^2 + 6x + 9 = 9 + 9(x+3)^2 = 18x + 3 = sqrt(18) or x + 3 = -sqrt(18)x = -3 + sqrt(18) or x = -3 +- sqrt(18)Subject: Re: What are all real values of x?===> Perhaps I should clarify a bit,> The problem is properly written with (3-x) in paranthesis:> 2/(3-x)=1/3-1/x and the question isWhat are all real values of x?> After multiplying the expression by the least common denominator of> 3x(3-x) you get x^2+6x-9. So according to my study guide the solutions> for x are two integers whos product is -9 and whose sum is 6. The only> possibilty I can imagine would be 3 and 3 or -3 and -3 or -3 and 3. No> of the options work. So there is no real value of x for this problem.> Correct? Or do I confuse something?2/(3-x) = 1/3-1/x2(3x) = x(3-x) -3(3-x) after multiplying both sides by 3x(3-x)6x = 3x - x^2 - 9 + 3xx^2 + 9 = 0, which has no real solutions.-- Will Twentymanemail: wtwentyman at copper dot net===Subject: Re: Abstracting out the method, non-polynomial factorizationNow then given that you have(f_1(x) + ga)(f_2(x) + b) = g(F(x) + G(x) + c)it's forced that f_1(x) *should* have g as a factor in the ring of> algebraic integeand in many cases it does.Whenever I see the word should in a proof, its like a fire alarm> going off.And it turns out that what I have there doesn't work. > You say f_1(x) *should* have g as a factor, but can you provef_1(x) **does** have g as a factor?It depends on the ring. Of course with nonzero g in the field ofalgebraic numbefor instance, it does, trivially.The idea, however, is to cover rings like the ring of algebraicintegers.Turns out I had to spend a good bit more time on that section to workit out carefully.There was a consistency requirement needed. > If you cant prove that, then you have no proof.What I'm talking about is a *tool* not a proof.The tool can be used in proofs.> For instance, with f_1(x) = 3x, f_2(x) = x, a=1, b=1, c=1, g=3, you> have(3x + 3)(x + 1) = 3(x^2 + 2x + 1).The problem for so many on the sci.math newsgroup has been that you> can rather creatively find functions f_1(x) and f_2(x), which don't> have factors of g in the ring of algebraic integers.The existence of functions f_1(x) and f_2(x) which don't have factors> of g in the ring of algebraic integers proves your claim is false by> counterexample. Since when is providing counterexamples a problem?Sounds like you don't understand the tool. > There are two things to do when faced with such an issue:1. Assume an error in the underlying reasoning, and checkThe best check is never done by the author. That is what peer review> is for. If you dont like sci.math, submit it to a journal.I've been using certain methods for a while now not having rigorouslyworked them out in this way, and in fact, I *do* have a paper usingthose methods which has been at a math journal for some months.What I'm doing now is working out the foundations a bit more, whichwith my work tends to be working out mathematical foundations for thediscipline of Object Mathematics.So I'm not doing a proof; I'm showing a mathematical tool which I'veused in proofs, as I abstract it out, and consider it in detail.===Subject: Re: Abstracting out the method, non-polynomial factorization[snip]> ...And it turns out that what I have there doesn't work.Taking another spin in the Oops!-Mobile, eh?> ...What I'm talking about is a *tool* not a proof.> The tool can be used in proofs.Not if it doesn't work!> What I'm doing now is working out the foundations a bit more, which> with my work tends to be working out mathematical foundations for the> discipline of Object Mathematics.Having failed dismally at the simpler tasks, you now proceed to take on more formidable ones. Congratulations onyour newly discovered key to success!> James Often in error, but never in doubt! Harris--There are two things you must never attempt to prove: the unprovable -- and the obvious.----http://www.crbond.com===Subject: Re: Abstracting out the method, non-polynomial factorization>Now I use the fact that if you're in the ring of algebraic integers>then dividing g from both sides *must* give>ab = c,>whereas, if you're in some other ring, like the field of algebraic>numbethen you have an *infinity* of factorizations on the left,>like>(sqrt(g) a)(b/sqrt(g)) = c.Your fact about the ring of algebraic integers appears to be the> conflation of two assertions.> Firstly, you assert that if a, b, c and g are algebraic integers> such that gab = gc, then ab = c. This is correct, providing of> course that g is nonzero.Good one, thanks for pointing that out. > Secondly, you assert that if a, b and c are algebraic integers such> that ab = c, then this is the only factorization of c in the ring> of algebraic integers. That is clearly false. For example, if y> is any algebraic integer, then the zeros of t^2 + yt + c are> cofactors of c in the ring of algebraic integers.That's not what I'm saying.What's given is gab = gc, so what I was saying was that ab = c, is theonly solution in the ring of algebraic integewhich is wrong, as(-a)(-b) = c is one of an infinity of solutions available. ===Subject: Re: Abstracting out the method, non-polynomial factorizationA second ago pos more nonsense,concluding with>Now mathematicians can accept mathematics, or they can cling to false>beliefs shown to be false by a rather basic tool which balances a>simple factorization against a more complex one.Then a minute later he replied to his own post:>Some corrections...Yet once again mathematicians were ignoring the Truth,and the the Truth turned out to be not quite True.What a surprise - only about the 10,000-th time this hashappened...************************===Subject: Re: Abstracting out the method, non-polynomial factorizationyour fomral method is very tiresome. I'll waitfor one of your more polific correspondentsto try to explain it. (like, can anyone figure where the tooling ends,and the marketing begins, or have I got it bass-ackwards ...or is there simply no post-moderne demarcation thereto?) maybe, though, you could use this toolto simplify a recently pos attempt at Beal's Conjecture,the generalization of Fermat's Conjecture (orto apply your own proof de la Derniere Theoremeto this, immediately .-)> Despite all the controvery over my method, basically what I've done is> a balancing act--simple against complex--and here's an abstraction of> the technique: Notice that the abstrac method itself does not say anything about> algebraic integers.--Give Earth a Trickier Dick Cheeny -- out of office, after GIGA years.http://www.benfranklinbooks.com/http://www.rand.org/ publications/randreview/issues/rr.12.00/http:// members.tripod.com/~american_almanacSubject: Re: Abstracting out the method, non-polynomial factorization===> your fomral method is very tiresome. I'll wait> for one of your more polific correspondents> to try to explain it.> (like, can anyone figure where the tooling ends,> and the marketing begins, or have I got it bass-ackwards ...> or is there simply no post-moderne demarcation thereto?)> I think it's more of an oriental approach of integrating the two extremes together into what might be perceived as a harmonious whole.That or he stuck them both in a fondue pot and this is what came out.-- Will Twentymanemail: wtwentyman at copper dot netSubject: Re: Abstracting out the method, non-polynomial factorization===> Some corrections...[deletia]>whereas, if you're in some other ring, like the field of algebraic>numbethen you have an *infinity* of factorizations on the left,>like>(sqrt(g) a)(b/sqrt(g)) = c.> Correcting following up from before, the issue isn't the number of> factorizations but availability of a given factorization.> Here the proper point is that the factorization shown is NOT available> in the ring of algebraic integers.what if g=4 and b is even?-- Will Twentymanemail: wtwentyman at copper dot net===Subject: Re: Abstracting out the method, non-polynomial factorizationBalderdash.> Some corrections...> [deletia]>whereas, if you're in some other ring, like the field of algebraic>numbethen you have an *infinity* of factorizations on the left,>like>(sqrt(g) a)(b/sqrt(g)) = c.> Correcting following up from before, the issue isn't the number of> factorizations but availability of a given factorization.Here the proper point is that the factorization shown is NOT available> in the ring of algebraic integers.> what if g=4 and b is even?Subject: Re: Abstracting out the method, non-polynomial factorization===> Despite all the controvery over my method, basically what I've done is> a balancing act--simple against complex--and here's an abstraction of> the technique:> Consider f_1(x) f_2(x) = g F(x), and gab = gc, where> (f_1(x) + ga)(f_2(x) + b) = g(F(x) + G(x) + c)> where f_1(0) = f_2(0) = F(0) = G(0) = 0.It's worth noting that gG(x) = bf_1(x) + gaf_2(x). This seems likely to be relevant to the discussion later.> Here you have the factorization > gab = gc, > balanced against the factorization> f_1(x) f_2(x) = g F(x),> where the point is that it's *unknown* how factors of g split between> f_1(x) and f_2(x).It's also unknown how g divides bf_1(x) + gaf_2(x). This could be equally relevant.> So you can think of my method as a solution for an unknown> factorization.> Now I use the fact that if you're in the ring of algebraic integers> then dividing g from both sides *must* give> ab = c,> whereas, if you're in some other ring, like the field of algebraic> numbethen you have an *infinity* of factorizations on the left,> like> (sqrt(g) a)(b/sqrt(g)) = c.I'm not sure what you mean by this. If b is divisible by sqrt(g) in the algebraic integewhy would the above not be valid? For that matter, suppose a=6, b=6, g=2, c=36. Why can't I write (ga)(b/g) = 12*3 = 36 = c?Also, be aware that unique factorizations do not exist in the algebraic integers.> Now then given that you have> (f_1(x) + ga)(f_2(x) + b) = g(F(x) + G(x) + c)> it's forced that f_1(x) *should* have g as a factor in the ring of> algebraic integeand in many cases it does.What do you mean should? Either it does or it doesn't. The fact that you say in many cases it does suggests that in some cases it does not. In which cases? If there are cases where it doesn't, why say should?There also appears to be an assumption that you have not sta: You wishto look at (f_1(x)+ga) as being divisible by g, and in particular each term of that expression as being divisible by g. This is important as it is quite natural to worry only about whether a *factor* is divisible by g rather than about whether the *terms of the factor* are divisible by g. This issue has been a cause of poor communication in the past and should be clearly sta.> For instance, with f_1(x) = 3x, f_2(x) = x, a=1, b=1, c=1, g=3, you> have> (3x + 3)(x + 1) = 3(x^2 + 2x + 1).> The problem for so many on the sci.math newsgroup has been that you> can rather creatively find functions f_1(x) and f_2(x), which don't> have factors of g in the ring of algebraic integers.So what your saying is that f_1(x) is NOT always divisible by g?> There are two things to do when faced with such an issue:> 1. Assume an error in the underlying reasoning, and check1.a. A counter-example always indicates there is an error in the underlying reasoning, regardless of where it is. Words like should cannot be used as part of a mathematical argument. Start looking around there.> 2. If checks reveal no error in your reasoning, then realize that the> conclusion is correct.2.a. A counter-example exists. Even if you don't see an error during your check, that does not mean the error doesn't exist. It only means you didn't see it.> Notice that the abstrac method itself does not say anything about> algebraic integers.> It's just a mathematical tool.> Notice it doesn't even bother with whether or not you have a> polynomial or non-polynomial factorization.> When that tool is used with certain functions from non-polynomial> factorizations it gives the result which has sparked so much> controversy on the sci.math newsgroup.> Now mathematicians can accept mathematics, or they can cling to false> beliefs shown to be false by a rather basic tool which balances a> simple factorization against a more complex one.> -- Will Twentymanemail: wtwentyman at copper dot net===Subject: Re: Abstracting the tool> Later, discussion can focus on specific examples, like the core> error that comes from interesting and intriguing properties of> algebraic integers: properties revealed by my tool.> possessed of a very tiny tool.===Subject: Re: JSH: Abstracting the tool> You might have noticed that I've abstrac out the mathematical tool> that I've been using, as well, it's fun to do so, and probably very> useful.> The full abstraction now is at my blog:> http://mathforprofit.blogspot.com/> It's a lot easier to correct there, versus making posts and having to> go back when I make mistakes as I just did, with follow-ups.> Now discussion can be over the *tool* versus over where it's used.And using it is straightforward. I'll use the Decker example toexplain.At the front end you have(5a_1(x) + 7)(5a_2(x) + 7) = 7(25x^2 + 30x + 2) where his a's are roots of a^2 - (x - 1)a + 7(x^2 + x).The Factorization Tool will tell you that factors of 7 cannot ingeneral be separa from its roots--a_1(x) and a_2(x)--within thering of algebraic integers.Because the Tool requires functions that equal 0, when x=0, you needthat linear substitution b_2(x) = a_2(x) - 1, where a_2(0) = 1.The indices are arbitrary, but you know that *one* of the a's mustequal 1 when x=0 because then you havea^2 + a = 0.So now you have(5a_1(x) + 7)(5b_2(x) + 2) = 7(25x^2 + 30x + 2)which is the Tool with n=2, and the other function and variable valuesare obvious enough.You can actually prove that the factorization is pushed outside of thering of algebraic integers with x=1, which is an easy enough value tocheck.Notice that the factorization a_1(x) a_2(x) = 7(x^2 + x), is not aperfect factorization in the ring of algebraic integeas at x=1,a_1(x) has a_2(x) as a factor, and a_2(x) has a_1(x) as a factor, butthey aren't factors of each other for all algebraic integer x.Not surprisingly, in the field of algebraic numbeas the Tool stillhas validity as it doesn't care, you *can* divide 7 off, and in thatring, the factorization is perfect, and the field is a complete ring.===Subject: Re: JSH: Abstracting the tool> You can actually prove that the factorization is pushed outside of the> ring of algebraic integers with x=1, which is an easy enough value to> check.Doing it your way things will go to pot just as you describe, but doing things Dik's way keeps everything neatly in the ring of algebraic integeas he has proved repealy and as you have ignored repealy.===Subject: Re: JSH: Abstracting the tool> And using it is straightforward.Has the post where you admit that you were wrong not yet shown up onyour server?===Subject: Re: JSH: Abstracting the tool> You might have noticed that I've abstrac out the mathematical tool> that I've been usingThere are so many possible punchlines to this one that it should besponsored by Mad Libs.===Subject: Re: JSH: Abstracting the tool> You might have noticed that I've abstrac out the mathematical tool> that I've been usingthis one? ___ // 7 (_,_/ _ __ ( ) ______/===Subject: JSH: Research question answeredOne of the reasons I've been so fascina by the Decker example isthat it revealed to me that I wasn't exactly certain aboutmethodologies that I'd discovered, as it seems I didn't understandexactly how everything worked.I mention Decker the most but the first person I remember giving suchan example was Nora Baron, followed by Andrezj Kolowski, then DikWinter, and then Rick Decker.In response to them I came up with various answers that ultimatelydidn't satisfy me, though I could satisfy myself that my own work wascorrect, I didn't have a handle on how their examples fit into thepicture.Now that research question has been answered thanks to my efforts toelucidate the Factorization Tool yesterday.It's neat. I'll start with the Decker example in explaining myresults.Recently Rick Decker, a professor at Hamilton College, apparentlytrying to refute my research came up with a quadratic example, which Ilike because it's a quadratic, and easier to manipulate than thecubics I've used before.If you wish to see his original post here are some headers which alsoshow that he posts from Hamilton College:Subject: Re: Mathematical consistency, courageDecker put forward the quadratic(5a_1(x) + 7)(5a_2(x) + 7) = 7(25x^2 + 30x + 2) where his a's are roots of a^2 - (x - 1)a + 7(x^2 + x).Usually I focused on the fact that the middle coefficient goes to 0with an integer x, which is similar to my focus with the previousexamples from the others.However, I now realize that the issue is the change in modular residuewith respect to 7 of *any* coefficient that matters.So the issue here is that -(x-1) mod 7 is not constant.Further research which I won't go into in detail indicates that inusing the Factorization Tool for such an example you have to calculateconstant terms for *each* of the coefficient's possible residues, soyou need 7.For instance, at x=1, you get a residue of 0 for both coefficientswhich works correctly. For x=2, you'd find the constant terms fromc^2 - c = 0, and for x=3, it'd be c^2 - 2c = 0, as -(x-1) mod 7 is different for each of those values.Notice the contrast with a cubic example of mine from my research:(5 a_1(x) + 7)(5 a_2(x) + 7)(5 b_3(x) + 22) = 49(300125 x^3 - 18375 x^2 - 360 x + 22)where b_3(x) = a_3(x) - 3 and the a's are roots ofa^3 + 3(-1 + 49x)a^2 - 49(2401 x^3 - 147 x^2 + 3x)so when x=0, a_1(0) = a_2(0) = b_3(0) = 0.Notice that all the coefficients maintain a constant residue withrespect to 49.I didn't realize the full importance of that feature until recently,though I did notice it a while back.===Subject: Re: Late Math REUs?I'm a minority junior Math/EE double major.Congratulations, do you want a cookie?===Subject: Re: Late Math REUs?Do your baked goods come with an REU, or are you just being a sourpuss?I'm a minority junior Math/EE double major.> Congratulations, do you want a cookie?-- The only math in the movie, The Matrix, is in the title.(paraphrased from a posting to alt.math.recreational)===Subject: Please kindly help by support1.mathforum.org (8.11.6/8.11.6/The Math Forum, $Revision: 1.9 primary) id i1T3TFo14795; by support1.mathforum.org (8.11.6/8.11.6/The Math Forum, $Revision: 1.9 primary) with ESMTP id i1T3Bpi13678 by legacy.mathforum.org (8.11.6/8.11.6/The Math Forum, $Revision: 1.10 $, legacy) id i1T3Boo09241===Can you help me with the following question?I have 15 groups that I want to compare the differences between them.However, the sample size for each group is only 5,I have heard thatthe sample size much be larger than 30 if any statistical analysis canbe use, is that true? If sample size is only 5, is it meaningful for me to calculate thestandard deviation of each group?Thanks a lot.Charlotte===Subject: Re: Please kindly help> Can you help me with the following question?> I have 15 groups that I want to compare the differences between them.> However, the sample size for each group is only 5,I have heard that> the sample size much be larger than 30 if any statistical analysis can> be use, is that true?> If sample size is only 5, is it meaningful for me to calculate the> standard deviation of each group?> Thanks a lot.> Charlotte30 is sort of a good rule of thumb. It might be hard to get a good estimate ofanything among the groups unless the differences among them are very large.Think of flipping a coin. If you were trying to distinguish between a cointhat came up heads 60% of the time - equivalent to your group 1 - and one thatwas fair - call that one group 2 - 5 flips would not be enough. However, iffor some reason you knew the first one came up heads 99% of the time and yourtest showed 5 heads in a row. You might be comfortable saying this one is thebiased coin. That would come out in tests of significance.Is there any way to pool the data into larger groups or go back and get moresamples?Bill===Subject: Re: Publish a paperAdditionally, if you've written your first paper (I'm assuming you've done some original research or you probably won't be publishing in a journal anyway), you'll want to have someone experienced in the field read it to make sure you didn't make any dumb mistakes.I'm told the easiest (and quickest) way to get a research paper into print in a reputable journal is to present the material at a conference and have the paper published in the proceedings of the conference. My first paper was presen (by my coauthor) at a conference in Florida last March, the final draft submit that May, accep around August, and in print early this year. Now I get to start referencing it>How do I go about publishing a paper and what do I need to have in it?> Well, first you should have something that other people wish to read or what's> the point? If you mean publish on the web, you set up a web site and start> typing.> On the other extreme, if you mean publish in a distinguished mathematical> journal you can write to the editor of the journal on their exact> requirements. But generally you need to make a contribution to the research> area the journal covers. Often people co-author their first paper with someone> more experienced.> Bill===Subject: Re: help me solve this riddle> I run all day, but do not walk, I tell you things but do not talk.> what am I?Clock?===Subject: pollard-strassen algoritmdoes anyone know where i can get an explanation of the 'pollar-strassen'method to factorise a number into its prime factors?jeremySubject: Generalising Spacers into n Dimensions===The following problem is an adaptation of GCSE maths coursework in the UKbut the generalisation into d dimensions ( I was just about to post thiswhen I realised I was using n for the dimensions and for part of the size ofthe array so d dimensions it is) forms no part of the assessment: the reasonfor asking here is to satisfy my curiosity.Given an n by m array of square tiles there are three types of spacersdefinedL - corner spaceso 4 in totalT - perimeter spaceso 2((n-1)+(m-1)) in total+ - interior spaceso (m-1)*(n-1) in totalTotal - (m+1)*(n+1)Generalising you get:For an n by m by p array there are four sorts of spacers. As AFAICS it'suseful to think of them as made up of line segments (there may be a betterway of describing this). So this time at each corner the Spacer consists of3 line segments - rather like the thumb, first finger, and middle finger, inFleming's left-handed rule (halfway down this pagehttp://www.waowen.screaming.net/Maghandrules.htm )This gave me the following table3 DIMENSIONSSpacer/Segments in Spacer/Totalcorner - 3 - 2^3edge - 4 - 2^2((m-1)+(n-1)+(p-1))face - 5 - 2^1((m-1)*(n-1)+(m-1)*(p-1)+(n-1)*(p-1))interior - 6 - 2^0(m-1)*(n-1)*(p-1)Total - (m+1)*(n+1)*(p+1)am not quite sure how to construct the expressions. I star with thefollowing4 DIMENSIONSSegments in Spacer/Total4 - 2^45 - (2^3)*(Sum i=1 to 4) (ai-1)6 - (2^2)*(Sum i,j=1 to 4) (ai-1)*(aj-1) with i,j different7- (2^1)*(Sum i,j,k=1 to 4) (ai-1)*(aj-1)*(ak-1) with i,j,k differentetc etcI am now at the limits (and quite possibly beyond) of what I can expresssuccinctly in algebra so my question isd DIMENSIONSThe number of segments in a Spacer runs from d to 2dFor the d segmen Spacer there are always 2^d of these (at the 'vertices')So far so straightforward but1. Is there a single expression that will cover Spacers of (d-e) segments?or maybe better2. How would you present a general solution to this problem in d dimensions?Hopefully this is not too confusing - there's no-one around who can proofread it for me.cheersdd===Subject: Source by support1.mathforum.org (8.11.6/8.11.6/The Math Forum, $Revision: 1.9 primary) id i1TEK2m04506; by support1.mathforum.org (8.11.6/8.11.6/The Math Forum, $Revision: 1.9 primary) with ESMTP id i1TCrBi29951 by legacy.mathforum.org (8.11.6/8.11.6/The Math Forum, $Revision: 1.10 $, legacy) id i1TCrBi12679===Im trying to view the source code.===Subject: Re: Source>Im trying to view the source code.So is the Human Genome Project.-- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://OakRoadSystems.comAn expense does not have to be required to be considered necessary. -- IRS Form 1040 line 23 instructions===Subject: Re: Source> Im trying to view the source code.Could you supply some context for your comments?-- ===Subject: Re: why not 12, 3, 1 by support1.mathforum.org (8.11.6/8.11.6/The Math Forum, $Revision: 1.9 primary) id i1TL5Pm06054; by support1.mathforum.org (8.11.6/8.11.6/The Math Forum, $Revision: 1.9 primary) with ESMTP id i1TKnZi04232 by legacy.mathforum.org (8.11.6/8.11.6/The Math Forum, $Revision: 1.10 $, legacy) id i1TKnZj12624===>why not 12,3,1 ? or 18,2,1? or 9, 4, 1 ? or ...? Because if any of those were correct, you would not have needed thelast clue. You need to know that the oldest boy has red hair todistinguish 2, 2, 9 from 1, 6, 6. Do you see why you need todistinguish between them? What is the same about them?===Subject: Stokes' TheoremWith only a few hours to go again, I'm stuck.....I've been asked to verify Stokes' theorem - i.e. get same answer both ways:Surface x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 4 (z>=0)and vector field (2xy - y , x^2 + y , 1)I get:for curve x^2 + y^2 = 4Want Integral f . dxWhich is three bits:Bit 1:2x * Sqrt(4 - x^2) - Sqrt(4 - x^2) dx (limits from -2 to 2) = -4PiBit 2:4 - y^2 + y dy (limits from -2 to 2) = 32/3Bit 3:1 dz (limits -2 to 2) = 0So line integral = 32/3 - 2Pi-----------------Surface integral:Want Integral Curl f . dsWhich simplifies to:Integral 1 dx dy (limits of x from -Sqrt(4 - ^2) to -Sqrt(4 - ^2) and limitsof y from -2 to 2)Which equals 4Pi------------------So, somethings wrong. As they should be equal. If someone could let me knowwhich is correct and then show the correc working for the bit I havewrong. I think the 4Pi is correct, but I can't see anything wrong on eitherside.Thanks.Kev===Subject: Re: eigenvalues with positive imaginary partOriginator: bergv@math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)> the eigenvalues are the solution of the equation det(xI-(S+iD))=0> let a+ib be a solution for the equation, then a-ib is also a solution.No, usually not.Arnold Neumaier===Subject: Re: eigenvalues with positive imaginary part X-MSMail-priority: NormalOriginator: bergv@math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)Arnold Neumaier schrieb im Newsbeitrag> the eigenvalues are the solution of the equation det(xI-(S+iD))=0> let a+ib be a solution for the equation, then a-ib is also a solution.> No, usually not.usually yes;-) e.g. x=-1 has the solutions i and -i. complex solutionsalway appear in pairsdaniel jungen> Arnold Neumaier===Subject: Re: eigenvalues with positive imaginary partOriginator: bergv@math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)Arnold Neumaier schrieb im Newsbeitrag> the eigenvalues are the solution of the equation det(xI-(S+iD))=0> let a+ib be a solution for the equation, then a-ib is also a solution.> No, usually not.>usually yes;-) e.g. x=-1 has the solutions i and -i. complex solutions>alway appear in pairsBut that's not an equation of the form det(xI-(S+iD)) = 0 where D is positive definite and S real and symmetric. The non-real roots of a monic polynomial occur in complex-conjugate pairs if and only if the polynomial has real coefficients.The polynomial in question does not have real coefficients (since, asa number of postings have shown, all eigenvalues of S+iD have positiveimaginary part).I suggest that this thread should be termina, as the original questionhas been answered fully, and this side-issue is too elementary for sci.math.research.Robert Israel israel@math.ubc.caDepartment of Mathematics http://www.math.ubc.ca/~israel University of British Columbia Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z2===Subject: Re: eigenvalues with positive imaginary partX-MIME-Autoconver: from quo-printable to 8bit by charisma.math.uiuc.edu id i1TG3Ri17068Originator: bergv@math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)>the eigenvalues are the solution of the equation det(xI-(S+iD))=0>let a+ib be a solution for the equation, then a-ib is also a solution.>No, usually not.> usually yes;-) e.g. x=-1 has the solutions i and -i. complex solutions> alway appear in pairs... only if the equations have real coefficients.This is not the case in your equation.e.g., x^2-2ix+2i-1=0 has the solutions 1 and -1+2i.Arnold Neumaier===Subject: eigenvalues with positive imaginary partEpigone-thread: wemhexskermOriginator: bergv@math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)Steve Fisk asks to prove:S is a symmetric matrix.D is a diagonal matrix with positive values on the diagonal.i is sqrt(-1)then the eigenvalues of S + i D all have positive imaginary part.Let lambda be an eigenvalue with nonpositive real part.Set M=S+i*D-lambda*I, and noticeM=S'+i*D' where S' is symmetric and D' is a strictly positive diagonal matrix.Also M is singular because lambda was an eigenvalue.Multiply on both sides by inverse(sqrt(D'))=diag(1/sqrt(d'_i))to obtain M'=T+i*I where T is symmetric and M' is still singular.The eigenvalues of T are real, so the eigenvalues of M' are (real+i) and all nonzero, a contradiction.Don Coppersmith===Subject: Re: eigenvalues with positive imaginary partOriginator: bergv@math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)> Steve Fisk asks to prove:> S is a symmetric matrix.> D is a diagonal matrix with positive values on the diagonal.> i is sqrt(-1)> then the eigenvalues of S + i D all have positive imaginary part.> Let lambda be an eigenvalue with nonpositive real part.> Set M=S+i*D-lambda*I, and notice> M=S'+i*D' where S' is symmetric and D' is a strictly positive > diagonal matrix.> Also M is singular because lambda was an eigenvalue.> Multiply on both sides by inverse(sqrt(D'))=diag(1/sqrt(d'_i))> to obtain M'=T+i*I where T is symmetric and M' is still singular.> The eigenvalues of T are realNot necessarily. Even when S is real, T is generally complex.The eigenvalues of a complex symmetric matrix need not be real.Example: any 1x1-matrix., so the eigenvalues of M'> are (real+i) and all nonzero, a contradiction.> Don CoppersmithArnold Neumaier===Subject: Re: generating polynomial distributionsOriginator: bergv@math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)>I hope you can help me with the following problem.>If you have a rand() function that generates independent uniform values >from [0,1], can you simulate any variable with polynomial distribution, >using max, min and filtering only?>Equivalently: suppose you have a set of distribution functions on [0,1], >which contains F(x)=x, and for any 0FG, 1-(1-F)(1-G) and aF+(1-a)G. Does the set contain all polynomial >distributions on [0,1]?If one considers these functions, all of them are strictlypositive on (0,1), and their derivatives are also strictlypositive. So one cannot obtain a polynomial density whichis 0 at an interior point.-- This address is for information only. I do not claim that these viewsare those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue Universityhrubin@stat.purdue.edu Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558===Subject: Re: generating polynomial distributionsOriginator: bergv@math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)>I hope you can help me with the following problem.>If you have a rand() function that generates independent uniform values >from [0,1], can you simulate any variable with polynomial distribution, >using max, min and filtering only?>Equivalently: suppose you have a set of distribution functions on [0,1], >which contains F(x)=x, and for any 0FG, 1-(1-F)(1-G) and aF+(1-a)G. Does the set contain all polynomial >distributions on [0,1]?> If one considers these functions, all of them are strictly> positive on (0,1), and their derivatives are also strictly> positive. So one cannot obtain a polynomial density which> is 0 at an interior point.Thanks===Subject: Re: Complete, but not BaireOriginator: bergv@math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)> Could someone give me an example of a complete uniform space which> is not a Baire space? I've tried to construct such a space, but in> vain. Furthermore, there's no exemple of such a space in Steen &> Seebach's Counterexamples in Topology.> Of course, since I'm not aware of the existence of a complete> uniform space which is not a Baire space, perhaps the the question> should be Is it true or false that... ?, but I would be very> much surprised if it turned out the that every complete uniform> space is a Baire space.For second time, I have pos a question here about one day anda half after having posting it at the sci.math newsgroup andgetting no answer there. And, again for socond time, I get ananswer there just after that. So, for the record, here's an answerto my own question (due to K. P Hart): the rationals with theuniform structure defined by the neighbouroods of the diagonalin Q x Q.===Subject: Re: naive questions on topologyOriginator: bergv@math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)Thanks for all those replies, especially give it toknottheory@yahoo.com, since my case is very similar to what hementioned.Now I would like to make an update of my second question. My goal here is to find some theorems or theories to backup some of myobservations. The problem is origina in an electromagneticscattering problem. however, I would still use a mathematicalstatement to express my question:Q: for a second-order differentible complex function W(r)=u(r)+i*v(r):R^n->C, where r in R^n, provide a piecewise smooth close path Gamma:I->R^n, let Gamma' be the image of Gamma in C. Now, if the windingnumber(or linking number in R^2=C) of Gamma' to z=0 in C is denoby Ind(Gamma',0), I want to make the statement that Lk(Gamma,pre_img(z=0))=Ind(Gamma',0) (1)where Lk(Gamma, pre_img(z=0)) denotes the linking number of1-manifold Gamma with respect to an n-2 dimensional manifoldpre_img(z=0), and pre_img(z=0) is the preimage of point z=0 in R^n.Note 1: as you all said, if asking W^-1 exist and continuous, and Wbijective, then, R^n and C are homeomorphic, then, this is almostcertainly true(or not?), however, I only know W has second orderderivatives(actually a solution of Helmholtz equation), and,therefore, continuous. It's inverse W^-1 dose not exist in most of thecases, that means, the pre-image of z=0 could be many in R^n, notmention W^{-1}'s continuity.Note 2: in (1) I use Gamma instead of using pre_img(Gamma'), forthat there would be also many or even infinitely many pre_images ofGamma' in R^n.Note 3: Gamma in R^n is bounded by a finite domain D subset R^n. This has been observed in many of my calculations, however, I don'tknow what kind of theory I can use to prove (1), is that rela tolocal homeomorphism?I would be grateful if you can send me the book titles or theoremnames which are rela to this problem.and have a nice weekendQianqian> Q2: we knew continuous map preserve topology properties, including> close curve index(or winding number). If W is a continuous map from> R^n -> C, if I have a curve Gamma and a point O in C plane and knew> the winding number of Gamma to O, if I want to make the statement that> the pre-image of Gamma and O in R^n should have the same winding> relationship, what other conditions I need to assume? do I need to> ask W^-1 is also a continuous map?> This is interesting, but we need to do a little more work to formulate> a precise question here.> To start, W^-1 is generally not a map at all, as a point in C may have> many preimages in R^n, so it doesn't really make sense to ask if W^-1> is continuous. Still, you can talk about the inverse image of a set S> in C, which is the set of all points x in R^n with W(x) in S.> Now the inverse images of Gamma and 0 could in general be really> nasty, making it hard to discuss winding relationships at all. So> you probably want to assume that Gamma is a smooth curve and W is ageneric smooth map. Then you know that the inverse image of Gamma> is an n-1 dimensional submanifold of R^n, call it X, and the inverse> image of 0 is an n-2 dimensional submanifold, call it Y. Also X and Y> are orien, which is good. Now you still need to decide what you> mean by winding number here when n>2. You probably (also when n=2)> want to additionally assume that W is proper, i.e. that the inverse> image of a compact set is compact, so that X and Y are compact. If> furthermore Y is connec, then there is a reasonable notion ofwinding number provided by Alexander duality (but given that you> asked your first question, I think you need to learn a lot more> topology before you can really understand what Alexander duality is> --- this is explained towards the back of most algebraic topology> books). If Y has k connec components, then you get k differentwinding numbers.> When n=2, I think that the sum of these k winding numbers equals m> times the winding number of Gamma around 0, where m is the degree of> the restriction of W mapping from X to Gamma.> When n>2, I don't know what one can say.===Subject: RHomEpigone-thread: tweldprarprilOriginator: bergv@math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)Ooops, I wasn't aware that RHom could be defined without boundednessassumptions on the complexes. Ok, in Weibel's book I found adefinition that only requires one complex to be bounded, say Y isbounded below. Still my argument won't work since X isn't bounded. Buthere is another one: Taking cohomology the claim boils down to provingthat the maps Hom_D(T)(X,Y[-n]) -> Hom_D(A)(X,Y[n]) are isomorphisms.For fixed complexes X,Y we can, since Y is bounded below, replace X bya truncation and D(T) and D(A) by D^+(T), D^+(A).My previous argument together with Exercise 10.4.3.4 in Weibel's bookshows that D^+(T) is isomorphic with D_T^+(A) and the latter is a fullsubcategory of D^+(A), which implies the asser isomorphism.Anton===Subject: Measurable cardinalsOriginator: bergv@math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)Assume that ZFC is consistent.Then, as is known, ZFC + measurable cardinals do not existis consistent. Does consistency of ZFC + measurable cardinals existremain an open problem today?--Alexander E. Gutmangutman@math.nsc.ru===Subject: Re: Measurable cardinalsOriginator: tchow@lagrange.mit.edu.mit.edu (Timothy Chow)Originator: bergv@math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)>Assume that ZFC is consistent.[...]>Does consistency of> ZFC + measurable cardinals exist>remain an open problem today?This came up in January...search Google Groups for the subject Largecardinals. Here is a relevant fact: If ZFC + ZFC is consistent isconsistent, then the following statement is unprovable in ZFC: (*) If ZFC is consistent then ZFC + measurable cardinals exist is consistent.So if you were asking whether anybody has proved (*) in a way that isformalizable in ZFC, then the answer is no. But this is not usuallyconsidered an open problem, since nobody expects (*) to be provablein ZFC (i.e., nobody expects ZFC + ZFC is consistent to be inconsistent).On the other hand, there are some people who aren't convinced thatmeasurable cardinals are consistent. So it wouldn't be completelyridiculous to search for an inconsistency in ZFC + measurable cardinalsexist.-- Tim Chow tchow-at-alum-dot-mit-dot-eduThe range of our projectiles---even ... the artillery---however great, willnever exceed four of those miles of which as many thousand separate us fromthe center of the earth. ---Galileo, Dialogues Concerning Two New Sciences===Subject: Quantum Swarm OptimizationX-mailer: epigoneEpigone-thread: smoanimpsnulOriginator: bergv@math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)Maybe somebody will be interes:http://uk.arXiv.org/abs/physics/0402085(Finding two-dimensional peaks) AbstractTwo-dimensional generalization of the original peak finding algorithmsugges earlier is given. The ideology of the algorithm emerged fromthe well known quantum mechanical tunneling property which enablessmall bodies to penetrate through narrow potential barriers. Wefurther merge this ``quantum'' ideology with the osophy ofwhich can be called Quantum Swarm Optimization. The functionality ofthe newborn algorithm is tes on some benchmark optimizationproblems===Subject: I need help with a SDEEpigone-thread: strahwhemfrerlOriginator: bergv@math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)Is it possible to obtain a closed-form solution for the following SDE?dX = (a + b*X)dt + (c + d*X)dWwhere a,b,c and d are constant and dW is the wiener process.I can solve the special cases where a=c=0 (Geom. Brownian Motion) orb=d=0 (Linear) or d=0 (ornstein uhlenbeck). But i can't solve thegeneral case where all the parameters are different from zero. Anyhint will be greatly apprecia. Thanks!!===Subject: Re: This Week's Finds in Mathematical Physics (Week 202)Originator: baez@math-cl-n03.math.ucr.edu (John Baez)Originator: bergv@math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)>John, it will take me a while to absorb your whole Week 202,I'll be satisfied if you don't fall asleep halfway through!>but can you tell me this: By structure type, do you mean>exactly the same thing as what Joyal and readers of his book>mean by combinatorial species, so that the difference is>only that you prefer a different name, or are you talking about>something rela but different? They're basically the same thing... I poin this out in previousWeeks, but forgot to mention it again here. I've added a commentto this effect in the website version of week202. When I say basically the same thing, it's because I can't remember whether Joyal defined his speces to be functorsF: FinSet_0 -> FinSet (FinSet_0 = category of finite sets and bijections, FinSet = category of finite sets and functions.)or functorsF: FinSet_0 -> Set (Set = category of sets and functions.)The former are better when you want every species to have a well-defined generating function; the latter are better when youwant your category of species to have all the nice features ofa presheaf category. I define structure types to be gadgets ofthe latter sort, but assume they're of the former sort whenever I take their generating functions. Of course, the whole point of species is to put off taking their generating functions as longas possible.Just so nobody gets worried, let me reassure folks that functors F: FinSet_0 -> FinSet are the same as functorsF: FinSet_0 -> FinSet_0,Similarly, functorsF: FinSet_0 -> Setare the same as functorsF: FinSet_0 -> Set_0. (Set_0 = category of sets and bijections)Natural transformations between them are different, though, andthat's why it's better to use the notation I use above - so we cantalk about processes that turn one species into another that aren'tnecessarily isomorphisms.===Subject: Re: This Week's Finds in Mathematical Physics (Week 202)Originator: bergv@math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)> I can't > remember whether Joyal defined his speces to be functors> F: FinSet_0 -> FinSet (FinSet_0 = category of finite sets and bijections,> FinSet = category of finite sets and functions.)> or functors> F: FinSet_0 -> Set (Set = category of sets and functions.) My understanding has been that it's the former. (But Igot that from notes on lectures by Gian-Carlo Rota, rather thanfrom Joyal's book.) -- Mike Hardy> Of course, the whole point of species is to put off taking> their generating functions as long as possible. Interesting way of putting it ...===Subject: This Week's Finds in Mathematical Physics (Week 203)Originator: baez@math-cl-n03.math.ucr.edu (John Baez)Originator: bergv@math.uiuc.edu (Maarten Bergvelt)Also available at http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/week203.htmlThis Week's Finds in Mathematical Physics - Week 203John Baez Last week I posed this puzzle: to find a Golden Object.A couple days ago I got a wonderful solution from Robin Houston, a computer science grad student at the University of Manchester. So, I want to say a bit more about the golden number, then describe his solution, and then describe how he found it.Supposedly the Greeks thought the most beautiful rectangle was one such that when you chop a square off one end, you're left with a rectangle of the same shape. If your original rectangle was 1 unit across and G units long, after you chop a 1-by-1 square off the end you're left with a rectangle that's G-1 units across and 1 unit long: G ......................... . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . 1 . . . . . . . 1 . G-1 . ......................... So, to make the proportions of the little rectangle the same as those ofthe big one, you want1 is to G as G-1 is to 1or in other words:1/G = G - 1 or after a little algebra,G^2 = G + 1so thatG = (1 + sqrt(5))/2 = 1.618033988749894848204586834365...while 1/G = 0.618033988749894848204586834365...and G^2 = 2.618033988749894848204586834365...(At this point I usually tell my undergraduates that the patterncontinues like this, with G^3 = 3.618... and so on - just to see ifthey'll believe anything I say.) These days, the number G is called the Golden Number, the Golden Ratio, or the Golden Section. It's often deno by the Greek letter Phi, after the Greek sculptor Phidias. Phidias helped design the Parthenon - and supposedly packed it full of golden rectangles, to make it as beautiful as possible. The golden number is a great favorite among amateur mathematicians, because it has a flashy sort of charm. You can find it all over the place if youlook hard enough - and if you look too hard, you'll find it even in placeswhere it's not. It's the ratio of the diagonal to the side of a regular pentagon! If you like the number 5, you'll be glad to know that 5 + sqrt(5) G = sqrt[-------------] 5 - sqrt(5)If you don't, maybe you'd prefer this: G = exp(arcsinh(1/2))My favorite formulas for the golden number are G = sqrt(1 + sqrt(1 + sqrt(1 + sqrt(1 + sqrt(1 + sqrt(1 + ...and the continued fraction: 1 G = 1 + --------- 1 + 1 -------- 1 + 1 ------- 1 + 1 ------ 1 + 1 ---- 1 + 1 ---- . . .These follow from the equations G^2 = G + 1 and G = 1 + 1/G, respectively.If you chop off the continued fraction for G at any point, you'll see that G is also the limit of the ratios of successive Fibonacci numbers. See week190 for a very different proof of this fact.However, don't be fooled! The charm of the golden number tends to attract kooks and the gullible - hence the term fool's gold. You have to be careful about anything you read about this number. In particular, if you think ancient Greeks ran around in togas osophizing about the golden ratio and calling it Phi, you're wrong. This number was named Phi after Phidias only in 1914, in a book called _The Curves of Life_ by the artist Theodore Cook. And, it was Cook who first star calling 1.618...the golden ratio. Before him, 0.618... was called the golden ratio! Cook dubbed this number phi, the lower-case baby brother of Phi. In fact, the whole golden terminology can only be traced back to 1826, when it showed up in a footnote to a book by one Martin Ohm, brother of Georg Ohm, the guy with the law about resistors. Before then, a lot ofpeople called 1/G the Divine Proportion. And the guy who star*that* was Luca Pacioli, a pal of Leonardo da Vinci who transla Euclid's Elements. In 1509, Pacioli published a 3-volume text entitled Divina Proportione, advertising the virtues of this number. Some people think da Vinci used the divine proportion in the composition of his paintings. If so, perhaps he got the idea from Pacioli.Maybe Pacioli is to blame for the modern fascination with the goldenratio; it seems hard to trace it back to Greece. These days you can buy books and magazines about Elliot Wave Theory, a method for making money on the stock market using patterns rela to the golden number. Or, ifyou're more spiritually inclined, you can go to workshops on Sacred Geometry featuring talks about the healing powers of the golden ratio. But Greek texts seem remarkably quiet about this number. The first recorded hint of it is Proposition 11 in Book II of Euclid's Elements. It also shows up elsewhere in Euclid, especially Proposition 30 of Book VI, where the task is to cut a given finite straight line inextreme and mean ratio, meaning a ratio A:B such thatA:B::(A+B):A (i.e., A is to B as A+B is to A)This is later used in Proposition 17 of Book XIII to constructthe pentagonal face of a regular dodecahedron. them up in a nice textbook. By now it's impossible to tell who discoveredthe golden ratio and just what the Greeks thought about it. For a saneand detailed look at the history of the golden ratio, try this:1) J. J. O'Connor and E. F. Robertson, The Golden Ratio,http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/HistTopics/ Golden_ratio.htmlWhile I'm at it, I should point out that you that Theodore Cook'sbook introducing the notation Phi is still in print: 2) The Curves of Life: Being an Account of Spiral Formations and Their Application to Growth in Nature, to Science, and to Art: with Special Reference to the Manuscripts of Leonardo da Vinci, Dover Publications, New York, 1979. If you want to see what Euclid said about the golden ratio, you canalso pick up a cheap copy of the Elements from Dover - but it's probably quicker to go online. There are a number of good places to find Euclid's Elements online these days. Topologists know David Joyce as the inventor of the quandle - an algebraic structure that captures most of the information in a knot. Now he's writing a high-tech edition of Euclid, complete with Java applets: 3) David E. Joyce's edition of Euclid's Elements,http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/java/elements/ toc.htmlJoyce is carrying on a noble tradition: back in 1847, Oliver Byrne did a wonderful edition of Euclid complete with lots of beautiful color pictures and even some pop-up models. You can see this online atthe Digital Mathematics Archive:4) Oliver Byrne's edition of Euclid's Elements, online at the Digital Mathematics Archive, http://www.sunsite.ubc.ca/DigitalMathArchive/The most famous scholarly English translation of Euclid was done by Sir Thomas Heath in 1908. You can find it together with an editionin Greek and a nearly infinite supply of other classical texts at the Perseus Digital Library:5) Thomas L. Heath's edition of Euclid's Elements, online atThe Perseus Digital Library, http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/But I'm digressing! My main point was that while G = (1 + sqrt(5))/2is a neat number, it's a lot easier to find nuts raving about it on the net than to find truly interesting mathematics associa with it - or even interesting references to it in Greek mathematics! The cynic might conclude that the charm of this number is purely superficial. However,that would be premature. First of all, there's a certain sense in which G is the most irrational number. To get the best rational approximations to a number you use its continued fraction expansion. For G, this converges as slowly as possible, since it's made of all 1's: 1 G = 1 + --------- 1 + 1 -------- 1 + 1 ------- 1 + 1 ------ 1 + 1 ---- 1 + 1 ---- . . .We can make this more precise. For any number x there's a constantc(x) that says how hard it is to approximate x by rational numbegiven by lim inf |x - p/q| = c(x)/q^2 q -> infinitywhere q ranges over integeand p is an integer chosen to minimize|x - p/q|. This constant is as big as possible when x is the goldenratio! It'd be ironic if the famously rational Greeks, who according to legend even drowned the guy who proved sqrt(2) was irrational, chose the most irrational number as the proportions of their most beautiful rectangle! But, it wouldn't be a coincidence. Their obsession with ratios and proportions led them to ponder the situation where A:B::(A+B):A, and this proportion instantly implies that A and B are incommensurable, since if you assume A and B are integers and try to find their greatest common divisor using Euclid's algorithm, you get stuck in an infinite loop.Euclid even mentions this idea in Proposition 2 of Book X: If, when the less of two unequal magnitudes is continually subtrac in turn from the greater that which is left never measures the one before it, then the two magnitudes are incommensurable.He doesn't explicitly come out and apply it to what we now call the golden ratio - but how could he not have made the connection? For more info on the Greek use of continued fractions and the Euclidean algorithm, check out the chapter on antihyphairetic ratio theory in this book:6) D. H. Fowler, The Mathematics of Plato's Academy: A New Reconstruction,Oxford U. Press, Oxford, 1987.Anyway, it's actually important in physics that the golden number is so poorly approxima by rationals. This fact shows up in the Kolmogorov-of completely integrable Hamiltonian systems. Crudely speaking, these are classical mechanics problems that have as many conserved quantities as possible. These are the ones that tend to show up in textbooks, like the harmonic oscillator and the gravitational 2-body problem. The reason is that you can solve such problems if you can do a bunch of integrals - hence the term completely integrable.The cool thing about a completely integrable system is that time evolution carries states of the system along paths that wrap around tori. Suppose it takes n numbers to describe the position of your system. Then it also takes n numbers to describe its momentum, so the space of states is 2n-dimensional. But if the system has n different conserved quantities - that's basically the maximum allowed - the space of states will be folia by n-dimensional tori. Any state that starts on one of these tori will stay on it forever! It will march round and round, tracing out a kind of spiral path that may or may not ever get back to where it star.Things are pretty simple when n = 1, since a 1-dimensional torus is a circle, so the state *has* to loop around to where it star. For example, when you have a pendulum swinging back and forth, its position and momentum trace out a loop as time passes. When n is bigger, things get trickier. For example, when you have n pendulums swinging back and forth, their motion is periodic if the ratios of their frequencies are rational numbers. This is how it works for any completely integrable system. For any torus,there's an n-tuple of numbers describing the frequency with which paths on this torus wind around in each of the n directions. If the ratios of these frequencies are all rational, paths on this torus trace out periodic orbits.Otherwise, they don't!It won't usually be completely integrable anymore. Interestingly, the tori with rational frequency ratios tend to fall apart due to resonance effects. Instead of periodic orbits, we get chaotic motions instead. But the irrational tori are more stable. And, the more irrational the frequency ratios for a torus are, the bigger a perturbation it takes to disrupt it! Thus, the most stable tori tend to have frequency ratios involving the golden number. As we increase the perturbation, the last torus to die is called a golden torus.You can actually *watch* tori breaking into chaotic dust if you check out the applet illustrating the standard map on this website:7) Takashi Kanamaru and J. Michael T. Thompson, Introduction to Chaos and Nonlinear Dynamics, http://www.sekine-lab.ei.tuat.ac.jp/~kanamaru/Chaos/e/Standard /The standard map is a certain dynamical system that's good for illustrating this effect. You won't actually see 2d tori, just 1d cross-sections of them - but it's pretty fun. For more details, try this:8) M. Tabor, Chaos and Integrability in Nonlinear Dynamics: An Introduction,Wiley, New York, 1989. In short, the golden number is the best frequency ratio for avoidingresonance! Some audioes even say this means the best shaped room for listening to music is one with proportions 1:G:G^2. I leave it to you to find the flaw in this claim. For more dubious claims, check out the ad for expensive when skeptics ask if the golden number is all it's cracked up to be. I figure it's part of our job as mathematicians to keep on discoveringmind-blowing facts about the golden number. A small part, but part:we shouldn't give up the field to amateurs! Penrose has done his share. His Penrose tiles take crucial advantage of the self-similarity embodied by the golden number to create nonperiodic tilings of the plane. This helped spawn a nice little industry, the study of quasicrystals with 5-fold symmetry. Here's a good introduction for mathematicians:Number Theory to Physics, eds. M. Waldschmit et al, Springer, Berlin, 1992, pp. 496-537.By the way, this same book has some nice stuff on the role of thethe circle to itself:Number Theory to Physics, eds. M. Waldschmit et al, Springer, Berlin, 1992, pp. 631-658.11) Jean-Christophe Yoccoz, Introduction to small divisors problems,Berlin, 1992, pp. 659-679.Conway and Sloane are also pulling their weight. Starting from the relation between the golden ratio, the isosahedron, and the 4-dimensionalbig brother of the icosahedron (the 600-cell), they've described howto construct the coolest lattices in 8 and 24 dimensions using icosians - which are certain quaternions built using the golden ratio. I discussed this circle of ideas in week20, week59 and week155.But if you want some really scary formulas involving the golden ratio, Ramanujan is the one to go to. Check these out: 1 -------------- 1 + exp(-2pi) ------------- 1 + exp(-4pi) = exp(2pi/5) [sqrt(G sqrt(5)) - G] ------------ 1 + exp(-6pi) ----------- 1 + exp(-8pi) --------- . . .and 1 + exp(-2pi sqrt(5)) ------------------- 1 + exp(-4pi sqrt(5)) ----------------- 1 + exp(-6pi sqrt(5)) ------------------ 1 + exp(-8pi sqrt(5)) ------------------ . . . sqrt(5)= exp(2pi/5) [ ------------------------------------- - G] 1 + [5^{3/4} (G - 1)^{5/2} - 1]^{1/5}These are special cases of a monstrosity called the Rogers-Ramanujancontinued fraction, which is a kind of q-deformation of the continuedfraction for the golden ratio. For details, start here:12) Eric W. Weisstein, Rogers-Ramanujan Continued Fraction,http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ Rogers-RamanujanContinuedFraction.html The golden number also shows up in the theory of quantum groups. I talked about this in week22 so I won't explain it again here. But, I can't resist mentioning that Freedman, Larsen and Wang havesubsequently shown that a certain topological quantum field theory called Chern-Simons theory, built using the quantum group SU_q(2), can serve as a universal quantum computer when the parameter q is a fifth root of unity. And, this is exactly the case where the spin-1/2 representation of SU_q(2) has quantum dimension equal to the golden number! 13) Michael Freedman, Michael Larsen, Zhenghan Wang, A modular functor which is universal for quantum computation,available at quant-ph/0001108.But don't get the wrong idea: it's not that some magic feature of the golden number is required to build a universal quantum computer! It's just that the 5 seems to be the *smallest* number n such that SU_q(2)Chern-Simons theory is computationally universal when q is an nth root of 1.That's pretty much everything I know about the golden number. So now, what about this Golden Object puzzle? Basically, the problem was to find an object that acts like the golden number. The golden number has G = G^2 + 1, so we want to finda object G equipped with a nice isomorphism between G and G^2 + 1. If G is just a set, this means we want a nice one-to-one correspondence between pairs of elements of G, and elements of G together with one otherIt doesn't matter what that other thing is, so let's call it @.(You may be wondering about the word nice. The point is, the problemis too easy if we don't demand that the solution be nice in some way -some way that I don't feel like making precise.)Here's Robin Houston's answer:Define a bit to be either 0 or 1. Define a golden tree to be a (planar) binary tree with leaves labelled by 0, 1, or *, where every node has at most one bit-child. For example: / is a golden tree, but / is not. / 1 / * 0 * 0 1Let G be the set of golden trees. We define an isomorphism f: G^2 -> G + {@} as follows. First we define f(X, Y) when both X and Y are goldentrees with just one node, this node being labelled by a bit. We can identify such a tree with a bit, and doing this we setf(0, 0) = 0f(0, 1) = 1f(1, 0) = *f(1, 1) = @In the remaining case, where the golden trees X and Y are not just bits,we setf(X, Y) = / X YThere are different ways to show this function f is a one-to-one correspondence, but the best way is to see how Houston came up with this answer! He didn't just pull it out of a hat; he tackled the problem systematically, and that's why his solution counts as nice.It's easy to find a set S equipped with an isomorphismS = P(S)where P is some polynomial with natural number coefficients. Youjust use the fixed-point principle described in week108. Namely, you start with the empty set, keep hitting it with P forever, and take a kind of limit. This is how I built the set of binary trees last week, as a solution of T = T^2 + 1. The problem is that the isomorphism we seek now:G^2 = G + 1 (1)is not of this form. So, what Houston does is to make a substitution:G = H + 2Given this, we'd get (1) if we hadH^2 + 4H + 4 = H + 3 (2)and we'd get (2) if we hadH^2 + 4H + 1 = H (3)which is of the desired form. We can rewrite (3) asH = 1 + H^2 + 2H + H2and in English this says an element of H is either a *, ora pair consisting of two guys that are either bits or elements of H - but not both bits. So, a guy in H is a golden tree! But, if it has just one node, that node can only be labelledby a *, not a 0 or 1. This means there are precisely 2 golden treesnot in H. So, G = H + 2 is the set of all golden trees, and ourcalculation above gives an isomorphism G^2 = G + 1.Voila! Note that to derive (3) from (1) we need to subtract, which in general is not allowed in this game. Here we are subtracting constants, and Houston says that's allowed by the Garsia-Milne involution theorem. I don't know this theorem, so I'll make a note to myself to learn it.But luckily, we don't really need it here: we only need to derive (1)from (3), and that involves addition, so it's fine.Part of what makes Houston's solution nice is that it suggests a general method for turning polynomial equations into recursive definitionsof the form S = P(S). Another nice thing is that his trick delivers a structure type G(X) that reduces to G when X = 1. To get this, first use the fixed-point method to construct a structure type H(X) with anisomorphismH(X) = (H(X) + X)^2 + 2H(X)Then, defineG(X) = H(X) + X + 1 and note that this gives G(X)^2 = G(X) + Xwhich reduces to G^2 = G + 1 when X = 1.As if this weren't enough, Houston also gave another solution to thepuzzle. He showed that James Propp's proposed Golden Object, described last week, really is a Golden Object! Maybe Propp already knew this, but I sure didn't.The idea of the proof is pretty general. Suppose we're in some categorywith finite products and countable coproducts, the former distributing over the latter. And, suppose we've got an object X equipped with an isomorphismX = 1 + 2X (4)so that X acts like -1. For example, following Schanuel and Propp, we can take the category of sigma-polytopes and let X be the open interval: then isomorphism (4) says(0,1) = (0,1/2) + {1/2} + (1/2,1)Or, following Houston, we can take the category of sets and let X be the set of finite bit-strings. Then (4) says a finite bit-string is either the empty bit-string, or a bit followed by a finite bit-string. The relation between these two examples is puzzling to me - if anyoneunderstands it, let me know! But anyway, either one works.Now let G be the object of binary trees with X-labelled leaves:G = X + X^2 + 2X^3 + 5X^4 + 14X^5 + 42X^6 + ...where the coefficients are Catalan numbers. Let's show that G is a Golden Object. To do this, we'll use (4) and this isomorphism:G = G^2 + X (5)which says a binary tree with X-labelled leaves is a pair of suchtrees, or a degenerate tree with just one X-labelled node. The formulafor G involving Catalan numbers is really just the fixed-point solution to this!Here is Houston's fiendishly clever argument. Suppose Z is any type equipped with an isomorphism Z = Z' + X for some Z'. Then Z + X + 1 = Z' + 2X + 1 = Z' + X = ZThis applies to Z = G^2, sinceG^2 = (X + G^2)^2 = (2X + 1 + G^2)^2 has a X term in it when you multiply it out, so it's of the form Z' + X.Therefore we have an isomorphismG^2 = G^2 + X + 1But we also have an isomorphism G + 1 = G^2 + X + 1 by (5). Composingthese, we get our isomorphismG^2 = G + 1.Golden! 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