mm-2889
===
Subject: Re: Math Wars 2: It's the Teaching, Stupid!
> This is a complete non-issue.
> Those students who will eventually end up as engineers and scientists
> typically look back on their high school math courses as the easiest 
As
> they even got.
> Frankly, serious consideration should be given to not bothering to teach
> mathematics to those kids who aren't wired for it beyond 8th 
grade.
Being 'wired' for math, or any subject, comes from several places.
One of which is the child's home, and how well the family deals with
the subject. Today's 9th graders for whom math is hard, are tomorrow's
parents of a 9th grader to whom math could be their best subject, if
they had only heard some good things about it in their childhood.
I believe that there is some basic literacy for each subject that we
should all have. If in math that is algebra, then I see nothing wrong
with non-math kids taking two half-paced classes, to ease them up to
that level. I do see a problem with calling a single half-paced
algebra class, the same as algebra.
===
Subject: Re: Math Translation Into Russian
>If any of you needs translation into Russian of anything related to
> maths from English, German, Spanish or French I will be happy to
> provide you with a high quality translation.
Do you also translate Russian into English?
I have a batch of Russian math problems that I would
love to get translated into English.
===
Subject: Re: Struggling in Algebra
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:55:06 -0800, Seveigny <seveigny@comcast.netWhile its 
useful for kids with disabilities it's really a dead 
>end course since after a student finishes it, they really 
>aren't prepared to go on to Geometry.
I don't understand why a two year algebra course that covers
the same thing a one year algebra course covers, but at a
slower pace for kids who need more time to absorb the concepts
would not prepare them to go on to a geometry course.  And
why shouldn't there be a two year geometry course then for these
kids (they would miss out on algbra II and trig, but some of the
topics of those courses might be covered in a two year geometry
class).
--
Dorothy
There is no sound, no cry in all the world
that can be heard unless someone listens ..
The Outer Limits
===
Subject: Re: Struggling in Algebra
Is there still such a class as pre-algebra? In my district, the track was
either:
Pre-Algebra 7th grade, Algebra I 8th (and then Algebra II, Geometry,
Trigonometry/Analytic Geometry/ Calculus)-this was the college bound/math
intensive/honors diploma track)
Math 7 (a review class), Pre Algebra 8, Algebra I 9th, Algebra II, 
Geometry,
Trigonometry/Analytic Geometry (College bound/non-math intensive/honors
diploma track)
Math 7, Math 8, Pre Algebra, Algebra I, Geometry, Algebra II (standard
diploma track, possibly college bound, usually via a community college)
Math 7, Math 8, Consumer Math 1-3 or Vocational Math (Vocational/Modified
diploma-not college bound).
Students who were truly gifted in math would usually either be a year or so
ahead by skipping Pre-algebra, take two classes in one year (usually 
Algebra
II and Geometry) or both, and take University classes after Calculus. The
Math Intensive track had, at the time I was in school, a 95% pass rate on
the Calculus AB AP exam.
-- 
Donna DeVore Metler
Orff Music Specialist/Kindermusik
Mother to Angel Brian Anthony 1/1/2002, 22 weeks, severe PE/HELLP
And Allison Joy, 11/25/04 (35 weeks, PIH, Pre-term labor)
===
Subject: Re: Struggling in Algebra
>Is there still such a class as pre-algebra? In my district, the track was
>either:
>Pre-Algebra 7th grade, Algebra I 8th (and then Algebra II, Geometry,
>Trigonometry/Analytic Geometry/ Calculus)-this was the college bound/math
>intensive/honors diploma track)
>Math 7 (a review class), Pre Algebra 8, Algebra I 9th, Algebra II, 
Geometry,
>Trigonometry/Analytic Geometry (College bound/non-math intensive/honors
>diploma track)
>Math 7, Math 8, Pre Algebra, Algebra I, Geometry, Algebra II (standard
>diploma track, possibly college bound, usually via a community college)
>Math 7, Math 8, Consumer Math 1-3 or Vocational Math (Vocational/Modified
>diploma-not college bound).
>Students who were truly gifted in math would usually either be a year or 
so
>ahead by skipping Pre-algebra, take two classes in one year (usually 
Algebra
>II and Geometry) or both, and take University classes after Calculus. The
>Math Intensive track had, at the time I was in school, a 95% pass rate on
>the Calculus AB AP exam.
This is what anyone going to college should do even earlier.
Algebra and logic are primary school material.  Tying anything
to arithmetic facility is counterproductive.
Those who are moderately gifted in math should be able to study
rigorous calculus and beyond by middle school, and should have
no ron-rigorous courses.  For the mathematically challenged,
rigor has nothing to do with difficulty, but to the correctness
of logical presentation and argument.
-- 
This address is for information only.  I do not claim that these views
are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.
Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University
hrubin@stat.purdue.edu         Phone: (765)494-6054   FAX: (765)494-0558
===
Subject: Re: Struggling in Algebra
>The Washington Post   Jan 16, 2006   Page B01
>Lagging Freshmen Reassigned Before Test;
>Pr. George's Creates 2-Year Algebra Class:
>Author(s): Nick Anderson
>At least 2,500 ninth-graders in Prince George's County will abruptly
>move this week from a standard one-year algebra course into a two-year
>program, shielding the struggling students from a state graduation test
>this spring that officials said they were likely to fail.
>> Fairfax County VA has had a 2-year version of algebra for a few years
>> pretty much for the same purpose, although the kids sign up for it at
>> the beginning of the year, rather than being switched mid-year.  The
>> result is that a significantly higher percentage of the kids pass the
>> state test.
>We have the same course in our district, called Fundamentals of Algebra. 
>Kids are slotted into the class based on their middle school math courses 
>and teacher recommendations.  While its useful for kids with disabilities 
>it's really a dead end course since after a student finishes it, they 
really 
>aren't prepared to go on to Geometry.  The course does help them pass the 
>high school exit exam but they don't do well on the state Algebra test 
>because the state test covers information that they haven't learned. 
Here, the two year course covers the exact same curriculum as the 1
year algebra course, leading to the same end-of-course state test.
Either is accepted as a prerequisite for geometry.  
>According to the fantasy standards, kids should learn Algebra in 8th grade. 

>While some kids are developmentally ready to work with abstractions at that 

>age, many are not.  Furthermore, many kids get lost early on and come to 
>middle school without a true understanding of basic math and are 
unprepared.
>The whole question of math really pushes my buttons.  Math classes in 
>elementary, middle and high school are a mile long and an inch deep.  We 
>haven't accepted the lessons of the TIMMS study from the 90's.  We should 
>teach fewer concepts, teach them well and then move on without the six 
weeks 
>of remediation/review that are offered at the start of each year.
I agree for the most part.  But the problem is that without that
review, the kids forget the stuff.  I personally think our lousy
international test scores in high school are because a substantial
portion of high schoolers aren't taking ANY math in their last year,
or if they are, they are taking a math course that focuses on geometry
or advanced algebra, and they've totally forgotten how to do
arithmetic because they simply don't care to know.
lojbab
===
Subject: Re: Struggling in Algebra
>>The Washington Post   Jan 16, 2006   Page B01
>>Lagging Freshmen Reassigned Before Test;
>>Pr. George's Creates 2-Year Algebra Class:
>>Author(s): Nick Anderson
>>At least 2,500 ninth-graders in Prince George's County will abruptly
>>move this week from a standard one-year algebra course into a two-year
>>program, shielding the struggling students from a state graduation test
>>this spring that officials said they were likely to fail.
> Fairfax County VA has had a 2-year version of algebra for a few years
> pretty much for the same purpose, although the kids sign up for it at
> the beginning of the year, rather than being switched mid-year.  The
> result is that a significantly higher percentage of the kids pass the
> state test.
The important ideas of algebra can be taught MUCH more
quickly, if one tries to teach the understanding.  Those
IDEAS belong in the primary grades; by the time they 
approach high school, great damage has already been done.
>>We have the same course in our district, called Fundamentals of Algebra. 
>>Kids are slotted into the class based on their middle school math courses 

>>and teacher recommendations.
The important parts of algebra do not in any way depend 
on arithmetic prowess.  In fact, I would not consider 
teaching fractions without having algebraic understanding.
         While its useful for kids with disabilities 
>>it's really a dead end course since after a student finishes it, they 
really 
>>aren't prepared to go on to Geometry.
Why is algebra needed for geometry?  None of Euclid's students
knew algebra, as it had not yet been invented.  Viete, the one
who is responsible for modern algebraic notation, deplored that
al-mukaballah and al-jabr were not in the category of the proofs
of Euclidean geometry.
 The course does help them pass the 
>>high school exit exam but they don't do well on the state Algebra test 
>>because the state test covers information that they haven't learned. 
>Here, the two year course covers the exact same curriculum as the 1
>year algebra course, leading to the same end-of-course state test.
>Either is accepted as a prerequisite for geometry.  
>>According to the fantasy standards, kids should learn Algebra in 8th 
grade. 
>>While some kids are developmentally ready to work with abstractions at 
that 
>>age, many are not.
I doubt that anyone is ready later who is not still ready by
then.  Abstract ideas are understandable early.  The process
of abstraction is not understandable without this, which the
schools and teachers do not comprehend and are continually
undermining.  
        Furthermore, many kids get lost early on and come to 
>>middle school without a true understanding of basic math and are 
unprepared.
This cannot come from arithmetic.  Algebraic notation is really
language of a type the linguists deny, and this is the most
important part.  
>>The whole question of math really pushes my buttons.  Math classes in 
>>elementary, middle and high school are a mile long and an inch deep.  We 
>>haven't accepted the lessons of the TIMMS study from the 90's.  We should 

>>teach fewer concepts, teach them well and then move on without the six 
weeks 
>>of remediation/review that are offered at the start of each year.
NO concepts are being taught properly.  One CAN teach them 
with great difficulty without variables, but computational
facility has nothing to do with it.
>I agree for the most part.  But the problem is that without that
>review, the kids forget the stuff.  I personally think our lousy
>international test scores in high school are because a substantial
>portion of high schoolers aren't taking ANY math in their last year,
>or if they are, they are taking a math course that focuses on geometry
>or advanced algebra, and they've totally forgotten how to do
>arithmetic because they simply don't care to know.
Concepts are not easily forgotten; facts and routine methods
are.,  But it is facts and routine methods which are easy to
examine, and which are essentially all that is taught.
-- 
This address is for information only.  I do not claim that these views
are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.
Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University
hrubin@stat.purdue.edu         Phone: (765)494-6054   FAX: (765)494-0558
===
Subject: Re: Struggling in Algebra
On 22 Jan 2006 14:51:06 -0500, hrubin@odds.stat.purdue.edu (Herman
>Why is algebra needed for geometry?  None of Euclid's students
>knew algebra, as it had not yet been invented.  Viete, the one
>who is responsible for modern algebraic notation, deplored that
>al-mukaballah and al-jabr were not in the category of the proofs
>of Euclidean geometry.
Because the geometry course has *expanded* and includes much
more than Euclidean proof.
I know you think Euclidean proofs are not included in geometry in
high school, but my kids certainly had them.  One of the things that
has been done is to connect algebra to geometry in ways that were
not done when I was in school.  Also, in the schools my kids went
to, coordinate geometry was integrated throughout the course.
Btw, for anyone here interested in Euclid's Elements, I found this
website that applies modern technology to the theorems.  
http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/java/elements/elements.html
--
Dorothy
There is no sound, no cry in all the world
that can be heard unless someone listens ..
The Outer Limits
===
Subject: Re: Struggling in Algebra
> I agree for the most part.  But the problem is that without that
> review, the kids forget the stuff.  I personally think our lousy
> international test scores in high school are because a substantial
> portion of high schoolers aren't taking ANY math in their last year,
> or if they are, they are taking a math course that focuses on geometry
> or advanced algebra, and they've totally forgotten how to do
> arithmetic because they simply don't care to know.
Obviously, IMO. But I wouldn't restrict to the final year, but all years for 

a large majority. If that weren't so, then why are states jumping on the 
bandwagon and finally mandating more than the little math that is prescribed 

now? 
===
Subject: Re: MATH HELP :)
On 21 Jan 2006 18:02:54 -0800, at361@yahoo.com <at361@yahoo.comthis is 
exactly the same thing ..but you putting notation down for
>probability
Who is you? Are you addressing me?
> and making it look harder.
Depends on who's looking I guess..
>since each event has the same probability, putting down such notation
>is uesless.
>(good trick i did when i did my phd...throw in notation for confusion).
>Then you eventually say use summation formula !?
>Obviously the sum of 21 +....+99 is simply the 'baby gauss' formula....
>(21 +99)/2 (79)
>one can easyly see this quickly.
That's easily. Do you think you are telling me something I don't
know?
>your 'advice' gives no extra help....
>secondly..your answer is wrong...since it does not start with 0
Correct, it starts with 1. Careless mistake.
>so i will work it out specifically then
>(21 + 22 +...+ 99) + 21(100) )/10000  = (4740 + 2100)/10000=0.684
>thirdly more events in the complementary ...so not easier to
>compute....
The complementary event is easier to express with summations.
--Lynn
===
Subject: Re: Reference for Lagrange multipliers
All of the fundamentals of microeconomics are based on constrained
optimization so you should get a good math for economists book like
chiang or blume and simon. There are alot you could check out.
===
Subject: Re: Reference for Lagrange multipliers
All of the fundamentals of microeconomics are based on constrained
optimization so you should get a good math for economists book like
chiang or blume and simon. There are alot you could check out.
===
Subject: Completing the Square
Hi all,
I am just starting to learn some math and even enjoy it a little.
This week we're focusing on Linear and Quadratic equations. I think I am 
getting it, but still one thing is driving me nuts. Completing the 
square. For some reason how to do it, just won't sink in. No matter how 
hard I stare at the examples the professor has given us I can't decipher 
this. It's quite embarrassing, but what the hell. I need to get past 
this and try to edumacate myself :-)
Can anyone tell me how to do this? Any good tutorials?
Pete.
===
Subject: Re: Completing the Square
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:08:16 -0500, Peter Giannopoulos <none@none.comHi 
all,
>I am just starting to learn some math and even enjoy it a little.
>This week we're focusing on Linear and Quadratic equations. I think I am 
>getting it, but still one thing is driving me nuts. Completing the 
>square. For some reason how to do it, just won't sink in. No matter how 
>hard I stare at the examples the professor has given us I can't decipher 
>this. It's quite embarrassing, but what the hell. I need to get past 
>this and try to edumacate myself :-)
>Can anyone tell me how to do this? Any good tutorials?
>Pete.
I have a few spare minutes so I'll have a go. First let's look at what
a perfect square looks like:
(x + a)^2 = x^2 + 2ax + a^2.
Notice that if you knew the 2ax term and were trying to figure out the
a^2 term, you might notice that the a^2 term could be calculated by
taking half the coefficient (2a) of x, which is a, and squaring it. In
other words, the constant term in the expansion of a perfect square is
half the coefficient of x, squared.
So say you wanted to complete the square on something like:
x^2 + 8x. You know that the missing constant term is the square of
(1/2)*8 = 4, or 16.
Could you write x^2 + 8x + 16 as your answer. No, because you have
just added 16, and you need to subtract it also or you have changed
the problem:
x^2 + 8x = x^2 + 8x + 16 - 16 = (x + 4)^2 - 16.
If you are solving a quadratic equation you can just add 16 to both
sides. So if your equation was:
x^2 + 8x = 9, you could proceed:
x^2 + 8x + 16 = 9 + 16 = 25
(x + 4)^2 = 25
x + 4 = +/- 5
x = -4 +/- 5 or 1 and -9.
If you have a quadratic whose leading coefficient isn't one, you must
factor it out first:
2x^2 - 3x
= 2(x^2 - (3/2)x). Now work inside the parentheses; you need half of
-3/2 squared or 9/16:
2(x^2 - (3/2)x + 9/16 - 9/16)
=2( (x - 3/4)^2 - 9/16 )
Notice that the -9/16 term will be multiplied by 2, so if you were
working both sides of an equation you would effectively add 2(9/16) or
9/8 to both sides to complete the square.
--Lynn
===
Subject: Re: Completing the Square
   <nzzUQ9b8nNrnRNyGwx0y82ORw+2C@4ax.com>
I will spend a few hours drilling this into my head.
Again thank you for your time.
Peter.
===
Subject: How to find your soulmate IN ONE DAY - ( Using The 4th Dimension )
Uses of The 4th Dimension
------------------------------
Since I discovered The 4th Dimension, one of the conclusions
I have reached is, The 4th Dimension is an infinite access to The
Truth.
Throughout this website, I use the term I wish - it is really a way
to voice a person's desire - and from the work I have done - it really
works.
any
human being can make an infinity of wishes and receive The Truth
(the correct answer) to every question they may have, in the form of a
dream
- that same night.
A person is not limited to the proverbial 3 wishes.
------------------------------
Use The 4th Dimension to find your soulmate
This is very easy to do - all you need to know is
The Truth of WHO your soulmate is.
The technique is called by MetaPhysicists:
Programming your sleep
To find your soulmate, do the following:
------------------------------
Say this out loud before you go to sleep:
I WISH TO KNOW THE TRUTH:
WHO IS MY SOULMATE?
------------------------------
Go to sleep and you will get The Truth
in the form of a dream that night.
Once you find out The Truth, why waste anymore time?
When you wake up, go find him or her and be happy.
------------------------------
What if your soulmate is in another country or far away?
No Problem....Use The 4th Dimension to make contact..
that is, use it like a telephone or a chat room.
Here's how...
Once you find out WHO your soulmate is, contact
his/her mind via The 4th Dimension in this way:
------------------------------
Say this out loud before you go to sleep:
I WISH TO MEET MY SOULMATE.
------------------------------
Go to sleep and you will meet THE MIND of your
soulmate THAT NIGHT in the form of a dream.
What does this mean?
It means you are ACTUALLY SPEAKING MIND - TO - MIND
with your soulmate, so when you wake up in the morning
(that is, your minds re-enter your physical bodies)
you remember your meeting - it really took place!
Keep meeting in this way until you can meet in the physical world.
------------------------------
Tell at least two of your friends of this secret wisdom.
- Sweet Dreams
==
A Public Service Message from The Author of Ueber Alles
http://www.ueberalles.com/apublicservicemessage.html
===
Subject: Re: Standard Deviation of PISA
>   >  >>On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:38:47 -0600, man_in_black529@yahoo.com
> >> Your science cannot explain how an evolved being could rise 
from
>> the
>> dead.
>  > Ooh! I think I saw a thing about zombies on Myth Busters!
>  > >>Naw - that was the evening news
>>reporting on the Republican party.
> >>Gray Shockley
>>------------------
>>It is better to live on your feet
>>than to die on your knees.
>>         - Robert Anson Heinlein
>  > Boo!
>  > Jd
>  >>Crybaby
> >>James Powell
>  > Monkeybaby.
>  > Jd
> >>THAT is the best you can do?
>  > No, but it is good ain't it.  You do claim to be the decendant of 
some
> sort of prehistoric pre-ape type animal don't you?
>  No, as I posted, it is lame.
> I am a descendant of my parents and their parents before them. Humans 
are
> descended from the same ancestry that has given rise to the other 
'great
> apes', making them are closest animal kin.
>>Man, you are lame!
> >>James Powell
>  > Squirrelbaby.
>  Even lamer.
> We thus learn that man is descended from a hairy, tailed quadruped,
> probably arboreal in its habits, and an inhabitant of the Old 
World.
> - Charles Darwin (Descent of Man, Chapter XXI General Sumary and
> Conclusion)
>  Which, as has been pointed out to you ad infinitum, not a squirrel.
> Hey Powell.... I'm having too much fun here so don't expect me to
> write much more.
> Having trouble typing with one hand?
> James Powell
> What's amazing about this poll is that there are now more than 10
> responses per minute.  I do believe people are getting the WORD--God's
> Word!
Really?  more than 10 responses per minute?  You're right, that
is amazing.  In fact it's unbelievable.  
Literally.
May I see the hands of everyone who believes that John's poll
is getting a half-million responses a month?
I thought as much.
-- cary
===
Subject: Re: Standard Deviation of PISA
>> >> >>On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:38:47 -0600, man_in_black529@yahoo.com
>> Your science cannot explain how an evolved being could 
rise from
> the
> dead.
>> > Ooh! I think I saw a thing about zombies on Myth Busters!
>> >>Naw - that was the evening news
>reporting on the Republican party.
>Gray Shockley
>------------------
>It is better to live on your feet
>than to die on your knees.
>         - Robert Anson Heinlein
> > Boo!
>> > Jd
>> >Crybaby
>>James Powell
>> > Monkeybaby.
>> > Jd
>>THAT is the best you can do?
>> > No, but it is good ain't it.  You do claim to be the decendant of 
some
>> sort of prehistoric pre-ape type animal don't you?
>> No, as I posted, it is lame.
>> I am a descendant of my parents and their parents before them. Humans 
are
>> descended from the same ancestry that has given rise to the other 
'great
>> apes', making them are closest animal kin.
>Man, you are lame!
>>James Powell
>> > Squirrelbaby.
>> Even lamer.
>> We thus learn that man is descended from a hairy, tailed 
quadruped,
>> probably arboreal in its habits, and an inhabitant of the Old 
World.
>> - Charles Darwin (Descent of Man, Chapter XXI General Sumary and
>> Conclusion)
>> Which, as has been pointed out to you ad infinitum, not a squirrel.
>> Hey Powell.... I'm having too much fun here so don't expect me to
>> write much more.
>> Having trouble typing with one hand?
>> James Powell
>> What's amazing about this poll is that there are now more than 10
>> responses per minute.  I do believe people are getting the WORD--God's
>> Word!
>Really?  more than 10 responses per minute?  You're right, that
>is amazing.  In fact it's unbelievable.  
>Literally.
>May I see the hands of everyone who believes that John's poll
>is getting a half-million responses a month?
>I thought as much.
>-- cary
You only believe fag websites, the ACLU, Oprah, Dr. Phil, and the
wizards of Oz at NASA who've made you to think they'll find the
secrets of the universe 9 years from now when (if) they get to Pluto.
Gaia is Mother Earth. Gaia is immortal. She is the eternal source of
life. She is certainly the mother of us all, including Jesus - James
Lovelock (Science and Christian Belief, Vol. 4, No. 1, p. 6)
A lifelong inventor, some of his inventions were adopted by NASA in
their program of planetary exploration. It was while working for NASA
that Lovelock developed the Gaia Hypothesis.
Lovelock was among the first researchers to sound the alarm about the
threat from the greenhouse effect. His opinion is that Only nuclear
power can now halt global warming 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lovelock
So now you blame President Bush for hurricane katrina and global
warming, while proclaiming to all of humanity that they've descended
from apes and are therefore.... victims of more highly evolved than
themselves humans.
Nevertheless, on the first page of the Holy Bible it is clear that men
were conquerers from the getgo....
Genesis 1:26    And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and
over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth,
and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. - God
Jd
===
Subject: Re: Standard Deviation of PISA
>> 
>> >> >>On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:38:47 -0600, man_in_black529@yahoo.com
>> Your science cannot explain how an evolved being could 
rise from
> the
> dead.
>> > Ooh! I think I saw a thing about zombies on Myth Busters!
>> >>Naw - that was the evening news
>reporting on the Republican party.
>Gray Shockley
>------------------
>It is better to live on your feet
>than to die on your knees.
>         - Robert Anson Heinlein
> > Boo!
>> > Jd
>> >Crybaby
>>James Powell
>> > Monkeybaby.
>> > Jd
>>THAT is the best you can do?
>> > No, but it is good ain't it.  You do claim to be the decendant of 
some
>> sort of prehistoric pre-ape type animal don't you?
>> No, as I posted, it is lame.
>> I am a descendant of my parents and their parents before them. Humans 
are
>> descended from the same ancestry that has given rise to the other 
'great
>> apes', making them are closest animal kin.
>Man, you are lame!
>>James Powell
>> > Squirrelbaby.
>> Even lamer.
>> We thus learn that man is descended from a hairy, tailed 
quadruped,
>> probably arboreal in its habits, and an inhabitant of the Old 
World.
>> - Charles Darwin (Descent of Man, Chapter XXI General Sumary and
>> Conclusion)
>> Which, as has been pointed out to you ad infinitum, not a squirrel.
>> Hey Powell.... I'm having too much fun here so don't expect me to
>> write much more.
>> Having trouble typing with one hand?
>> James Powell
>> 
>> What's amazing about this poll is that there are now more than 10
>> responses per minute.  I do believe people are getting the WORD--God's
>> Word!
>Really?  more than 10 responses per minute?  You're right, that
>is amazing.  In fact it's unbelievable.  
>Literally.
>May I see the hands of everyone who believes that John's poll
>is getting a half-million responses a month?
>I thought as much.
>-- cary
> You only believe fag websites, the ACLU, Oprah, Dr. Phil, and the
> wizards of Oz at NASA who've made you to think they'll find the
> secrets of the universe 9 years from now when (if) they get to Pluto.
Do you think that John's poll is getting a half-million hits a month?
Do you believe that liberals are 2% of the American population?
Do you belive that there are 330 billion web sites devoted to 
Scott Peterson?
Do you belive that blacks cannot play basketball?
And Do you belive that 87% of all Jews are homosexuals?
If so, does that last include those Jews about which you
from Zion?
-- cary
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Subject: Re: Standard Deviation of PISA
In an attempt to show off yet again to FNC who has returned to speak
up for lesbian rights....
> 
>On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:38:47 -0600, man_in_black529@yahoo.com
>> Your science cannot explain how an evolved being could 
rise from
>> the
>> dead.
>> Ooh! I think I saw a thing about zombies on Myth Busters!
>Naw - that was the evening news
>>reporting on the Republican party.
>>Gray Shockley
>>------------------
>>It is better to live on your feet
>>than to die on your knees.
>>         - Robert Anson Heinlein
>> Boo!
>> Jd
>Crybaby
>>James Powell
>> Monkeybaby.
>> Jd
>>THAT is the best you can do?
>> No, but it is good ain't it.  You do claim to be the decendant of 
some
> sort of prehistoric pre-ape type animal don't you?
> No, as I posted, it is lame.
>> I am a descendant of my parents and their parents before them. 
Humans are
> descended from the same ancestry that has given rise to the other 
'great
> apes', making them are closest animal kin.
>Man, you are lame!
>>James Powell
>> Squirrelbaby.
> Even lamer.
>> We thus learn that man is descended from a hairy, tailed 
quadruped,
> probably arboreal in its habits, and an inhabitant of the Old 
World.
> - Charles Darwin (Descent of Man, Chapter XXI General Sumary 
and
> Conclusion)
> Which, as has been pointed out to you ad infinitum, not a squirrel.
>> Hey Powell.... I'm having too much fun here so don't expect me to
> write much more.
>> Having trouble typing with one hand?
>> James Powell
> 
> What's amazing about this poll is that there are now more than 10
> responses per minute.  I do believe people are getting the 
WORD--God's
> Word!
>>Really?  more than 10 responses per minute?  You're right, that
>>is amazing.  In fact it's unbelievable.  
>>Literally.
>>May I see the hands of everyone who believes that John's poll
>>is getting a half-million responses a month?
>>I thought as much.
>>-- cary
>> You only believe fag websites, the ACLU, Oprah, Dr. Phil, and the
>> wizards of Oz at NASA who've made you to think they'll find the
>> secrets of the universe 9 years from now when (if) they get to Pluto.
>Do you think that John's poll is getting a half-million hits a month?
>Do you believe that liberals are 2% of the American population?
>Do you belive that there are 330 billion web sites devoted to 
>Scott Peterson?
>Do you belive that blacks cannot play basketball?
>And Do you belive that 87% of all Jews are homosexuals?
>If so, does that last include those Jews about which you
>from Zion?
>-- cary
You forgot to flash your badge first idjut.  And besides that, I
thought it were I who was the Inquisitor and you pagans who were the
victims.
Jd (yet the role reversal thingy has failed to fool anyone)
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Subject: Re: Standard Deviation of PISA
> In an attempt to show off yet again to FNC who has returned to speak
> up for lesbian rights....
Oh, I think I've carried the show off to FNC thing as far as it can
decently be carried.  Any more and the horses might take fright.
Or umbrage.
-- cary
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Subject: Re: Standard Deviation of PISA
<snip What's amazing about this poll is that there are now more than 10
> responses per minute.
What is amazing is that you still 'think' anyone believes the data comes 
from anywhere other than your ass.
Quit making up data to try and prove your point.
James Powell 
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Subject: Re: Standard Deviation of PISA
><snip> What's amazing about this poll is that there are now more than 10
>> responses per minute.
>What is amazing is that you still 'think' anyone believes the data comes 
>from anywhere other than your ass.
>Quit making up data to try and prove your point.
>James Powell 
Being a man of science yourself, I'm sure you've come across data that
you've simply tossed out on the basis that it contridicted your goals
and ambitions.
So what's your problem? I mean aren't others allowed to use your same
methods?
Jd
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Subject: Re: Standard Deviation of PISA
> Seems the niggers REALLY are anxious to get back to their roots,
> blacks--and an amazingly large percentage of them are in FAVOR of the
> Black Exile http://blackexile.com
LOL! what makes you think Liberia will welcome a few million half-caste 
brown
people.  or are they going to be the next terrorist state to be 
subdued ?
Bye.
   Jasen
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Subject: Re: Standard Deviation of PISA
>What's amazing about this poll is that there are now more than 10
>responses per minute.  
To anyone with half a clue, that would be prima faciae evidence that
someone is faking responses.
At 10 responses per minute, that means that it would take a mere half
dozen hours to double the number of responses you have.
>Whaddaya think, Hy'mie--do you think Americans have heard enough about
>this BS about all humans being of the same race,
It isn't BS.  You are full of it, though.
>and being descendants of apes, blah, blah???
Human beings are the descendants of a common ancestor with apes.  You
might be a descendant of the Blob.
>Do you think they've seen the DNA studies which show the ape is more
>closely related to niggers than us honkies are?
No such DNA study.
lojbab
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Subject: Re: Standard Deviation of PISA
>Human beings are the descendants of a common ancestor with apes.  You
>might be a descendant of the Blob.
Then you're in agreement with Darwin who said:
Taking the facts as they now stand, it appears to me that the order
of the appearance of the sulci and gyri in the foetal human brain is
in perfect harmony with the general doctrine of evolution, and with
the view that man has been evolved from some ape-like form; though
there can be no doubt that that form was, in many respects, different
from any member of the primates now living. - Charles Darwin (Descent
of Man, Chapter VII On the Races of Man)
...who also proclaimed that man himself was intimately related to
lower life forms having evolved from pre-historic squirrels:
By considering the embryological structure of man,- the homologies
which he presents with the lower animals,- the rudiments which he
retains,- and the reversions to which he is liable, we can partly
recall in imagination the former condition of our early progenitors;
and can approximately place them in their proper place in the
zoological series. We thus learn that man is descended from a hairy,
tailed quadruped, probably arboreal in its habits, and an inhabitant
of the Old World. - Charles Darwin (Descent of Man, Chapter XXI
General Sumary and Conclusion)
Bob, it's no wonder liberals have a victim mentality. But it is a
marvel how easily they subjugate their followers.
Jd