mm-442 === Subject: : Re: JSH: Chaotic math?> Indeed. Do you want to know what has been found upto now: > (corrected spelling error).> x degree w_1(x)> -3 6 (1 + sqrt(-38))^(1/3)> -2 10 (-128 + 3.sqrt(-47))^(1/5)> -1 1 7> 0 1 7> 1 2 sqrt(7)> 2 22 (44444 - 111.sqrt(-167))^(1/11)> 3 6 [(-25 + 3.sqrt(-83))/2]^(1/3) > ...> Have a look about how Keith Ramsay found his result. But let us give> an example. Set x = -4, we have: a_1(-4) = (-5 + sqrt(-311))/2. The> class number here is 19, so a_1(-4)^19 and 7^19 have a common factor> in Z(sqrt(-311)). So we find:> a_1(-4)^19 = (- 3279828388182942545 - 110677566089868539.sqrt(-311))/2> and> 7^19 = 11398895185373143.> The next step is to find integer or half-integer values p and q such> that p^2 + 311.q^2 = 11398895185373143. You can automate that.> But this takes quite some effort... > p = 99831352 > and > q = 2146257 > will do just that. So are there r and s such that > (+-p +- q.sqrt(-311))(r + s.sqrt-311)) = a_1(-4)^19? > To be continued.Oh well, too simple: (99831352 + 2146257.sqrt(-311))(319680303 - 20229379.sqrt(-311)) = = a_1(-4)^19.Meanwhile I expanded to -5 and +5. 6 could be a showstopper as theclass number is 41.dik t. winter, cwi, kruislaan 413, 1098 sj amsterdam, nederland, +31205924131home: bovenover 215, 1025 jn amsterdam, nederland; http://www.cwi.nl/~dik/=== === Subject: : Re: My fear, consider this> It's so evil, so frustrating. Nothing matters in mathematics,> mathematicians don't give a damn about the truth.This fellow, and the hundreds of patiently repudiating replies hehas received in response to his mathematical incoherence, demonstratethe limitations of cognitive therapy.James, have you tried antipsychotic medications?Seriously.=== === Subject: : little prime problem by support1.mathforum.org (8.11.6/8.11.6/The Math Forum, $Revision: 1.9 primary) id i1M37h417388;how can you show that every prime p > 3 can be written as 6*n-1 or6*n+1 ??I would apreciate any help.=== === Subject: : Re: little prime problem>how can you show that every prime p > 3 can be written as 6*n-1 or>6*n+1 ??>I would apreciate any help.Try a proof by contradiction.Hint: when 6n is involved, every _integer_ can be written as one of only six possibilities, right? List them, the see if you can show that the other possibilities cannot be prime.Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://OakRoadSystems.comAn expense does not have to be required to be considered necessary. -- IRS Form 1040 line 23 instructions=== === Subject: : Re: little prime problem> how can you show that every prime p > 3 can be written as 6*n-1 or> 6*n+1 ??> I would apreciate any help.Every odd number can be written in exactly one of the forms 6*n+1 or 6*n+3 or 6*n+5, the last being equivalent to 6*n-1,where n is some integer, and 6*n+3 is always divisible by 3.=== === Subject: : Re: little prime problem> how can you show that every prime p > 3 can be written as 6*n-1 or> 6*n+1 ??Every thing else is divisible by 2 or by 3.=== === Subject: : Re: JSH: Apology to Ramsay, why I post> So I apologize to Keith Ramsay for questioning his honesty here.Thank you. I can't remember any time I've lied about mathematics, and Isuspect it's because I just haven't ever.Excuse me if I say a little about this before letting it go, though.I've read that a compete canonical apology contains five parts. One, astatement of what was done wrong. Two, agreement that it was wrong. Three,a statement of the principle violated by it, i.e. why it was wrong. Four,an explanation of why it happened. Five, reason to believe it won'thappen in the future. (Probably the main reason to say why one did it isto support one's explanation for why the other person doesn't need toworry about one's doing it again.)You say you questioned my honesty, and you agree it was wrong. But whyspecifically was it wrong? Was it wrong only because what you claimedturned out not to be true after all? No, it's wrong to make this kind ofaccusation shooting from the hip, just because you don't actually know.I think you should think a bit about why you make accusations like this.Don't just come up with a story. Actually look inside yourself at whatmakes finding someone to be a liar seem attractive to you. You give theimpression of leaping eagerly at every opportunity to find mathematicians(and former mathematicians) to be wrong and lying, even false alarms. Allthe way back when you started posting, you already expressed an interestin showing that we were all wrong about Fermat by finding an elementaryproof (even though I hardly ever hear any mathematician claim for surethat one doesn't exist). You've tried to claim failure to reply to you asan example of how some of us want to hide the truth.Try to imagine what life would be like if you just refrained from callingpeople liars. Me, I hardly ever call anybody a liar. I have told peoplethat I suspect President Bush's campaign promise not to engage in nation-building was insincere. Overall, though, I could refrain from any suchaccusation and not miss out on much. Once in awhile, it seems good to showpeople that a certain person is untrustworthy, but not very often. Almostalways when someone says something false, just indicating how it is false(without trying to show that the person who said it knew it was false) isgood enough. Others can draw their own conclusions.Until you show some sign of confronting your own delight in leaping tonegative, personal conclusions about mathematicians, it will be hardindeed to believe that you are at all serious about refraining from doingthe same kind of thing again in the future. I don't think you yourself arevery well aware of how you get a kick out of this kind of shooting fromthe hip.| As for the rest of the obsessive repliers, no apologies to that| dogmatic crew!See, there you go again. As I see it, you don't really know that they'reas bad as you suspect, but you are accusing anyway.| They're still at it, replying, and replying and replying.I agree that it's a little strange how much attention we've been givingyou, but I think if you are honest you have to admit that all your postingon the same topics is a little on the compulsive side too.It seems Arturo Magidin is actually sticking to his offer.| Still now you can see why Usenet IS useful to me, as I can have people| check things for me, like Keith Ramsay did.I'm happy to help people on usenet, but I'm only actually happy about itwhen the person doesn't bite the hand that feeds him.So, thank you again for admitting your mistake, but please try not todo it again.Keith Ramsay=== === Subject: : Re: JSH: Apology to Ramsay, why I post>So I apologize to Keith Ramsay for questioning his honesty here.> Thank you. I can't remember any time I've lied about mathematics, and I> suspect it's because I just haven't ever.> Excuse me if I say a little about this before letting it go, though.> I've read that a compete canonical apology contains five parts. One, a> statement of what was done wrong. Two, agreement that it was wrong. Three,> a statement of the principle violated by it, i.e. why it was wrong. Four,> an explanation of why it happened. Five, reason to believe it won't> happen in the future. (Probably the main reason to say why one did it is> to support one's explanation for why the other person doesn't need to> worry about one's doing it again.)Are you sane?James Harris=== === Subject: : Re: JSH: Apology to Ramsay, why I post>So I apologize to Keith Ramsay for questioning his honesty here.>Thank you. I can't remember any time I've lied about mathematics, and I>suspect it's because I just haven't ever.>Excuse me if I say a little about this before letting it go, though.>I've read that a compete canonical apology contains five parts. One, a>statement of what was done wrong. Two, agreement that it was wrong. Three,>a statement of the principle violated by it, i.e. why it was wrong. Four,>an explanation of why it happened. Five, reason to believe it won't>happen in the future. (Probably the main reason to say why one did it is>to support one's explanation for why the other person doesn't need to>worry about one's doing it again.)> Are you sane?> James HarrisKeith Ramsay's posts evince a degree of rationality at least as great as the most rational posts by James Harris.That James Harris' apology does not meet the standards Keith Ramsay sets is more of a reflection on James Harris' sannity than on Keith Ramsay's.=== === Subject: : Re: Core error proof, simpler, shorter> So what's the core error?Yes, what is it?Could you please formulate it in a pure math language, leaving all the emotional stuff out?You know, without the words like odd, funny, silly, etc.=== === Subject: : Re: JSH: My fear, consider this> It's so sad that I've tried to come up with simple examples for so> long, and posters like Nora Baron, Dik Winter and Arturo Magidin> have *successfully* come back with their own posts and kept winning at> convincing you all that I was wrong!Why is it sad? If you truly cared about the math, you'd be glad they corrected any mistakes you may have made. It is not a competition to be won or lost so don't pretend that they've done something underhanded by showing how you are incorrect.> It's been so frustrating that I'm terrified that they will just get> away with it again, so here's another angle as I desperately try yet> again to get someone to care about what's mathematically correct> knowing the kind of people who are out there to come right back and> push incorrect math.throughout the world and apparently no one who has read your posts has agreed with you. Perhaps you should consider the fact that you may be completely wrong here. ===