mm-481 === Subject: : Re: Integral of a Vector over Distance> Mathematical necessity? For the integral of the dot product? There> are integrals of dot products, and integrals of cross products. If> you can specify a product K(u,v) of two vectors u and v, as long as> it has reasonable properties (bilinearity), then you can calculate> the integral> integral(K(u,dv))> along the curve traced out by v. So far, you have seemingly pointed> to the dot product as one case; another poster has pointed out the> cross product can be integrated.Just out of curiosity, what kind of a space might the kernel function k(x,y) = h(x:y) = h(x) + h(y) - h(x,y)where h(x:y) is the mutual algorithmic entropy and h(x), h(x,y) arealgorithmic information content (entropy) and joint algorithmicentropy respectively, indicate through an approximation of thedot-product?=== === Subject: : Re: Periodic function>A function like cos x^2 produces a cosine wave that compresses itself in>both directions away from x=0. What function would produce regularly>periodic compressions and rarefactions?> Try cos(2*pi*cos(kx)). Choose k to your liking.Maybe that's what Tim wants, but I'd be surprised. Different choices ofk do not, in a sense, change things. The graphs are all similar. Forexample, regardless of k, there are always 4 extrema per cycle.Let me suggest instead considering a family of functions like sin(p*x + q*sin(r*x))To see two examples, graph sin(5*x + 3*sin(x)) and sin(16*x + 5*sin(2*x)).One might also read about frequency modulation. === Subject: : Re: Periodic function>A function like cos x^2 produces a cosine wave that compresses itself in>both directions away from x=0. What function would produce regularly>periodic compressions and rarefactions?> Try cos(2*pi*cos(kx)). Choose k to your liking.>Maybe that's what Tim wants, but I'd be surprised. Different choices of>k do not, in a sense, change things. The graphs are all similar. For>example, regardless of k, there are always 4 extrema per cycle.>Let me suggest instead considering a family of functions like> sin(p*x + q*sin(r*x))>To see two examples, graph sin(5*x + 3*sin(x)) and sin(16*x + 5*sin(2*x)).>One might also read about frequency modulation.Here's another that has infinite periodic compression, undefined at apoint or two but, hey, who's quibbling:plot(cos(2*Pi*sec(x/5)),x= -20..20);also try x = 8..9=== === Subject: : Re: differential equations teaching> Spend 3 hours doing basic algebra to clean up the mess>Skill in integration is a necessary pre-requisite.Course starts>usually asking students to eliminate arbitrary constant/s to set up>differential equation,to appreciate the two way process.For example,y>= C e^(-x^2/2) sets up dy/dx= -x*y , that integrates back to given>relation by separable variables. etc..But the overall emphasis on explicitly solving differential equationsis a waste of time - that's the Calculus-approach: Mindlessequation-crunching. Most equations are *not* integrable. Its betterto teach a qualitative approach: What are the steady states of theequation? What are the limit sets? Then teach some numerics: Eulermethod, Runge-Kutte, advanced methods.===> === Subject: : Re: Conway's comment on large numbers>Message-id: I was reading a paper by Conway and Doyle that proves that division by> three is possible (without the axiom of choice).> http://math.dartmouth.edu/~doyle/docs/three/three.pdf> In the last paragraph the authors explain their doubts about the ZF>axioms, saying,> Indeed, we're somewhat doubtful whether large natural numbers (like> 80^5000, or even 2^200) exist in any very real sense...> I don't understand this at all. What do very large numbers have to do> with the consistency of ZFC?> Nothing, directly.> Is this a joke?> Well, Conway has a sense of humor, and this is humorous but it need> not be taken as a joke; the somewhat serious interpretation is as a> question about the provenance of numbers that are larger than the> the number of distinct things in the observable physical universe --> are they really ontologically different from actual infinities?>There was a thread about computability where the question>of theoretical vs actual computers came up.>A theoretical computer can perform an unbounded, but finite,>number of operations. I pointed out that finite was pretty>small for an actual computer (where actual means conforms>to the laws of physics as we know them).>Assume a computer can perform an operation in 3 x 10^-44 sec.>(Planck's time - theoretically, the shortest time an action can occur in).>Let this computer count for a billion years (10^9).>(The universe is estimated to be about 13 billion years old.>In 3 billion years, the Milky Way will crash into Andromeda.)>Google says 1 year = 31 556 926 seconds (3 x 10^7).>So, in a billion years, the computer will count to>3 x 10^44 x 10^9 x 3 x 10^7 = approximately 10^61.Somewhat doubtful.>Russell>- 2 many 2 countMensanatorAce of Clubs=== === Subject: : Re: um......a little problem..0^0=1> Integer-power definitions are based on generating the powers through> some type of multiplicative operation, either directly or through a> counting process (e.g., mappings form a set of one cardinalit to a set> of another). Defniitons of negative exponent powers as multiplicative> inverses is included in this Such definitions render 0^0 as, in effect,> an empty product that equals 1 naturally.> 0^0 = 1 makes the most sense to me.> We may also define a rational-power operation. If p and q are> relatively prime, then a^(p/q) is the principal root (which needs to> be secified and may depend on whether you're working with the real or> the complex domain) of x^q = a^p. In this algebraic equaiton the powers> are evaluated via the integer-power defnition. If a = 0, p = 1, and q => 1 (or -1), then this process still gives 0^0 or 0^(0/1) = 1.> Please pardon me if I'm missing something obvious, but how does that> get you 0^0=1? I can see how you get 8^(2/3)=4 from x^3=8^2 , e.g. But> how does> x^1 = 0^0> give you x=1? > Apply the integer-power definition to the right-hand side, yielding> x^1 = 0^0 = 1> from which we get x = 1^(1/1) = 1.But you already have 0^0=1 before you extract x from x^1=1. !!! Sowhat's the point? I guess it's to show that the integer definition isconsistent with the rationals definition and produces no new values.OK.=== === Subject: : Re: Mass versus Weight> The ratio of the gravitational weight [w], or heavieness of any> object; body, or mass of matter, divided by the acceleration [g] at> which it will free fall is its mass: For any given body: Its mass m => w/g = f/a; anywhere; anytime! === === Subject: : schools for topologyCan anyone tell me which schools in southern california is good intopology/algebraic topology?=== === Subject: : Re: Cantor: ignorant, harmless fool or intentional liar?> Sagan's makes his contempt for transfinite arithmetic clear in > The_Demon_Haunted_World, where, in the chapter titled The Fine Art of > Balony Detection, he mentions that transfinite arithmetic is suited > to those with a deep devotion and longing for life after death. The actual quote is Those with a deep longing for life after death might, it seems, devote themselves to cosmology, quantum gravity, elementary but it's clear to anyone who knows anything about Sagan that he's not expressing contempt for any of these subjects.On the other hand, Sagan in this chapter talks about the fallacy of argument from authority, which in view of your slavish quotes from Wittgenstein, you might want to brush up on (I'd include your quotes from Hilbert and Sagan, but you don't seem to understand what they are saying.)=== === Subject: : Re: the MVT -- - -- applications> By using the MVT with f(x)=x^.5 on [25,26], show that> 26^.5 - 25^.5 < 1> f'(c) = 26^.5 - 25^.5> and f'(x) = 1/(2(x^.5)), so f'(c) = 1/(2(x^.5)).> but how do I prove the answer?Last equation is absurd25 < c < 261/2sqr 26 < f'(c) < 1/2sqr 25as f' is decreasing=== === Subject: : Re: the MVT -- - -- applicationsQ1.Pick x so that 0 < x < pi/2. (This eliminates the need for tan(pi/2).)The MVT in this instance states (tan x - tan 0)/(x - 0) = (sec^2)(c)where c satisfies 0 < c < x. Now (sec^2)(c) >= 1 . . . .Hope this helps.________________________________________________________ __> Hey! I'm learning about the MVT, and am stuggling with being able toapply it to solve these problems.> Question 1:> Prove that tan x > x for 0 < x < pi/2.> I think there must be an f'(c) = (tan(pi/2) - tan 0)/(pi/2)> however, since tan(pi/2) is undefined i am having difficulty trying toanswer the question.> Question 2:> By using the MVT with f(x)=x^.5 on [25,26], show that> 26^.5 - 25^.5 < 1> f'(c) = 26^.5 - 25^.5> and f'(x) = 1/(2(x^.5)), so f'(c) = 1/(2(x^.5)).> but how do I prove the answer?=== === Subject: : Re: Geometric interpretation of the trace of a matrix?> If you start with unitary eigenvectors of the transformation, as sides> of a paralelepiped, the trace is certainly what I said in the last> post, i.e., the sum of the edges of the image paralelepiped divided by> 2^{n-1}.Almost correct. You have to be careful with the signs of the eigenvalues.A modification like: if the transformation reverses top and bottom(or left and right etc), then the length of the corresponding edgehas to be counted with a minus sign.When your transformation has complex eigenvalues, you are more or lessout of luck (ok, you may be able to do something with rotations)If you make the further assumption that the transformation is symmetric,then you can choose the parallelpiped to be rectangular. All the eigenvaluesof a symmetric transformation are real, so in that case a geometric interpretationis possible.Jyrki Lahtonen, Turku, Finland=== === Subject: : Complexity in advanced mathematicsI am looking for resources for problems of considerable difficutly inthe following subjects.Functionaly AnalysisHarmonic AnalysisLinear Algebraalso what books do you recommend for developing ability in proofwriting.=== === Subject: : Fields of study under mathematicsIs there a website resource that lists areas of mathematics and thecomponents of each field of study,I have already checked out mathematical atlas and that at times can beambigous, what I am looking for is a catalog style heading/descriptionresource.thank you very much.=== === Subject: : central limit theorem, equivalent statementsCLT and related topics):Let {X_n,i} be a triangular array of random variables (independentwithin each row). Suppose (*) given epsilon > 0, sum(over i) E( X_n,i I(|X_n,i| <= epsilon) )---> m(**) given epsilon > 0, sum(over i) Var(X_n,i I(|X_n,i| <= epsilon) )---> s^2 finite(***) max(over i) |X_n,i| ---> 0 in probability,where I(A) is the indicator function of the set A.Then sum(over i) X_n,i ---> N(m,s^2) in distribution. I'm going tocall this result R1.The problem is that I haven't been able to convince myself that thisfollows from (or really is an equivalent formulation of) any of theversion of the CLT for triangular independent arrays (probablyLindeberg's) that I'm familiar with.I'm guessing there's no loss of generality if we set m=0, s^2=1. ThenI'm acquainted with the following:Let {X_n,i} be a triangular array of random variables (independentwithin each row). Suppose(1) E(X_n,i) = 0(2) Sum(i=1,...,k_n) E((X_n,i)^2) = 1(3) Given epsilon > 0, Sum (i=1,...,k_n) E( (X_n,i)^2 I(|X_n,i| epsilon) ) ---> 0.Then Z_n = Sum(i=1,...,k_n) X_n,i ---> N(0,1) in distribution. I'mgoing to call this result R2.Can someone help show me how R1 is equivalent to one of the morepopular formulations of the CLT for triangular arrays (say R2)? I'vetried doing various manipulations of the hypotheses of R1 (i.e.flipping around the indicator functions to I(|X_n,i| > epsilon) butI still can't put it in just the right form. please help.....!=== === Subject: : Re: Yes, these are homework questions! > I was going to ask my teacher, but ran out of time... and as for working> these out myself, well there's only so may times I can shake my fist at> them, I'm lost.> Anyone care to help me out, please?> Express a in terms of b and c> a=(b-a)/c> -- Don't have a clue where to begin.> Variable a represents a tablevalue.> First determine the weight of each variable.> b>c and b for b=(a*c)+a> c for c=1 b has to be as big as twice to a:> (c*a)+a=b> or coming back to a=(b-a)/c:> (c*a)=b-a> In any table c will be the multiplier to tablevalue a where b will adept by> +a upgoing the table (from c=1 b=a+a, c=2 b=a+a+a etc.).> Given a factor, find k> x^3-x^2+kx+n=0> k = (x^2-x)> I don't see the point in n.I don't understand how you came about k = (x^2-x), I got k = (-x^2+x).(removing n from the equation because you saw no point in it)1. x^3-x^2+kx = 02. x(x^2-x+k) = 03. x(x^2-x+k)/x = 0/x4. x^2-x+k = 0 -x^2 + x^25. k = (-x^2+x)=== === Subject: : Re: Yes, these are homework questions!> because it's so obvious now... can anyone recommend a book on algebra - forNotice how you are dealing mostly with linear things. Even yourpolynomial problem, could be split into linear factors over anappropriate splitting field. So first of all you need to get a bookon linear algebra. Since you are dealing with polynomials, it isessential that you also get a book on galois theory, which is thestudy of polynomials. Once you finish those, you are ready to go alittle deeper, and you should seek a book on abstract algebra.If these books seem a little bit over your head (I'm not sure how goodyou are), you might need to step back and start with I.N. Herstein'sTopics in Algebra, which is written for folks like you gettingstarted in math.Good luck in all your math endeavors!Your dear friend,Bruce B.=== === Subject: : Re: Method of undetermined coefficients>Yes, this is an assignment so I am not asking anyone to solve it for>me. Here is my attempt at a solution and I was just wondering if>somebody could let me know if I am doing this correctly. If not,>perhaps a few pointers in the right direction?>y-y'-6y=-8x>(i) find Yc:> characteristic equation: r^2-r-6=0> r=-2,3> general solution to Yc is Yc=C1e^-2t + C2e^3tThis should be Yc=C1e^-2x + C2e^3x. If ' is differentiation w.r.t. tyou get different particular solutions, since -8x is a constant then.It is essential, that you understand that.....>(iii) general solution to y-y'-6y=-8x is Y=Yc+Yp> Y=C1e^-2t+C2e^3t+4/3x+2/9There was a sign error in your calculation. It should be:Y=C1e^-2x+C2e^3x+4/3x+2/9.=== === Subject: : Re: Method of undetermined coefficients>(iii) general solution to y-y'-6y=-8x is Y=Yc+Yp> Y=C1e^-2t+C2e^3t+4/3x+2/9>There was a sign error in your calculation. It should be:>Y=C1e^-2x+C2e^3x+4/3x+2/9. ^^^^Oops!-2/9, of course.=== === Subject: : Re: Method of undetermined coefficientsThere is an algebra error in going from:> 0-A-6(Ax+B)=-8xto> 0-A-6Ax+6B=-8x .See it?________________________________> Yes, this is an assignment so I am not asking anyone to solve it for> me. Here is my attempt at a solution and I was just wondering if> somebody could let me know if I am doing this correctly. If not,> perhaps a few pointers in the right direction?> y-y'-6y=-8x> (i) find Yc:> characteristic equation: r^2-r-6=0> r=-2,3> general solution to Yc is Yc=C1e^-2t + C2e^3t> (ii) find Yp:> Yp=Ax+B> Yp'=A> Yp=0> 0-A-6(Ax+B)=-8x> 0-A-6Ax+6B=-8x> x(-6A)+(-A+6B)=-8x> solve the system of equations:> -6A=-8x> -A+6B=0> A=4/3> B=2/9> general solution to Yp is Yp=4/3x+2/9> (iii) general solution to y-y'-6y=-8x is Y=Yc+Yp> Y=C1e^-2t+C2e^3t+4/3x+2/9=== === Subject: : Re: Method of undetermined coefficients> Yes, this is an assignment so I am not asking anyone to solve it for> me. Here is my attempt at a solution and I was just wondering if> somebody could let me know if I am doing this correctly. If not,> perhaps a few pointers in the right direction?> y-y'-6y=-8x> (i) find Yc:> characteristic equation: r^2-r-6=0> r=-2,3> general solution to Yc is Yc=C1e^-2t + C2e^3t> (ii) find Yp:> Yp=Ax+B> Yp'=A> Yp=0> 0-A-6(Ax+B)=-8x> 0-A-6Ax+6B=-8x-6B> x(-6A)+(-A+6B)=-8x> solve the system of equations:> -6A=-8x> -A+6B=0> A=4/3> B=2/9> general solution to Yp is Yp=4/3x+2/9> (iii) general solution to y-y'-6y=-8x is Y=Yc+Yp> Y=C1e^-2t+C2e^3t+4/3x+2/9=== === Subject: : Re: Help Needed Understanding Article> As I said, I don't see anything in this paper that proves this> theorem, so I would appreciate it if anyone who is somehow convinced> of this theorem from reading this paper would tell me how they came to> that conclusion.I am convinced that there is no computable procedure for determiningif any arbitrary program written in some general purpose language canhalt. I am convinced of this because (1) It is central to the theory of computability, from the little I understand about computability. (2) I vaguely recall being taught this in some class I took on computability 20 years ago. (3) I vaguely remember the proof - really, proof outline or rigorous argument - having something like the self-reflexivity of the proof outline David Ulrich, I think it was, presented recently on this newsgroup.> So far, nobody has come forth with that argument. > Yet there are still people who maintain that Boyer and Moore do> somehow prove it. Without having some sort of logical explanation to> back up that assertion, it seems pretty disingenuous to take that> position.I see the title and abstract of this paper. I know Boyer and Moorehave an absolutely stellar reputation in the area of systems forformal proofs. There's lots of technical details in the paper,which I have not read. So I am more than willing to accept thattheir system has verified it.I don't maintain that the paper must present a proof of theunsolvability of the halting problem. I think the purpose of thepaper is to describe how they used their system to get the systemto generate or check a proof.By the way, I know that some formal verification systems usedecision procedures in restricted domains. The result of adecision procedure, as I understand it, is not a formal proofshowing the steps in deriving a theorem from an axiom. I do notknow if the particular use of the Boyer-Moore theorem proverdescribed in that paper can be criticized along these grounds.Notice I do not assert that one who does not know the theoryof computability should be convinced of the unsolvability ofthe halting problem on the grounds I give above.Try http://csf.colorado.edu/pkt/pktauthors/Vienneau.Robert/ Bukharin.html To solve Linear Programs: .../LPSolver.htmlr c A game: .../Keynes.html v s a Whether strength of body or of mind, or wisdom, or i m p virtue, are found in proportion to the power or wealth e a e of a man is a question fit perhaps to be discussed by n e . slaves in the hearing of their masters, but highly @ r c m unbecoming to reasonable and free men in search of d o the truth. -- Rousseau=== === Subject: : Re: Logistic Curve Goodness of fit> I am analysing some data and have a simple linear equation and a> logistic/sigmoid equation. To measure the Goodness of Fit for the> linear equation I am using simple X:Y R^2 but am unsure of the best> way to compare this goodness of fit to that of the logistic equation.> Is a direct comparison of the Sum of Squares accurate or is there a> better way.I guess it is not a bad start.I can't help feeling that a real expert would come up with a proper answer,but as none have come forward I will offer my two penn'oth.As the parameter count is the same in both models what comes to mind is thatif you use max log likelihood to fit the parameters in both models you couldsay which one more probably fitted the data.The other suggestion is that for linear regression it is easy to get anestimate of the error in the parameters. I expect there is a way of directlyestimating the same for the logistic equation, if not you can (with a bit ofwork) obtain estimates using max log likelihood.If the relative error on both the parameters for one model is smaller thanthe other then presumably this is good news.> Any advice would be appreciated.> Chris.=== === Subject: : Re: Mathematical Language Equations> Here is a language equation puzzle where the solutions are mathematical.> [So I will cross-post this to sci.math. ]> 1) 160 T of 187.this one is a bit hard to fathom. is there an equation here?> 2) S of D of 70 is 144. Sum Divisors> 3) The sixth H N is 49/20. Harmonic Number > 4) 12th F N is 12th positive S. Fibonacci Number Square> 5) F of N L of 10000 is 9. Floor Natural Logarithm> 6) 8 C 3 is 56. Choose> 7) 10th T N is 10th F N. Triangular Number Fibonacci Number> 8) S of 1st 5 positive S is 10th F N too. Sum Squares Fibonacci Number> 9) (m+2) C 3 P (m+2) C 2 is S of 1st m positive S. Choose Plus Choose Sum SquaresS's aren't always equal in an equation: S=Sum or Square.> 10) For m >= 2, S of T of m is m T P m D B 2.???> 11) The N of P L T 50 is 15. Number Primes Less Than> 12) The P of 1st 4 H N is 275/48. Product Harmonic Numbers> 13) D I B 0 and 1 of -ln(1-x)/x is P S D B 6.Definite Integral Between Pi Squared Divided By> 14) L, as m A I, of S of 1st m positive C D B m R B 4 is 1/4. Limit Approaches Infinity Sum Cubes Divided By Raised By> 15) (2m) F D B m F S is A to 4 R B m D B S R of P.Factorial Divided By Factorial Squared Asymptotic Raised By Divided By Square Root Pi